Once we have a verbal from him go to 1) Lebron 2) Wade 3) Dirk

If we cant get something with one of those 3 bring Lee back. You bring Lee back you prob have enough money to sign Mike Miller

fishmike wrote:sure... I hope we have a max contract on the table for Amare.

Once we have a verbal from him go to 1) Lebron 2) Wade 3) Dirk

If we cant get something with one of those 3 bring Lee back. You bring Lee back you prob have enough money to sign Mike Miller

I agree with this, except I think Wade and Dirk are a lock to stay with their teams.

And I think Bron is not coming here.

If we can get Amar'e, DLee and Mike Miller, that's a solid summer haul and still gives us Curry's contract for flexibility.

I really question whether Amar'e comes here without Lebron though. I don't see it.

Amar'e is coming to meet with the Knicks on Monday aka the day Lebron makes his decision. I think he'll sign with us if Lebron tells him to, otherwise he'll follow Lebron to Chicago or New Jersey.

EwingsGlass wrote:Not sure whether I agree or not with the Lee/Stoudemire front line, but even if they offered Stoudemire a max contract, they could could use up to $7-8M to sign sombody like Ray Allen or Mike Miller, then give David Lee a decent contract even if it is more than $10M. AND, they could trade Curry's contract for another player.

Again, not my first choice on how to do this, but you could end up with:

Monta Ellis (for Eddy Curry)
Mike Miller
Danilo Gallinari
Amare Stoudemire
David Lee

TD
Chandler

Still, I'm not sure this team makes it past the first round

Adding an elite player to the frontline we had in place would make us much better and a horror to match up with. At this point we atleast want a significant upgrade from last year and putting Stoudmore with Lee and hvaing the cap to add pieces will do that. Who knows how good we will be--there is no other super team int he east. Why do you think Danny Ainge wants Lee?

Mray20 wrote:A front line of Lee and Amare = possibly the worst defensive front court in NBA history.

and one of the better offensive ones in recent NBA history.

gallo/Dlee/amar'e is a tough matchup for almost every front court in the NBA.

the more i think about it, i'd be on board for amar'e and dlee.

this is really 2nd best scenario. amare at 5 years for the max is OK, he's already played for d'antoni and presumably d'antoni knows what he's getting and knows how to coach him. that would be a tough matchup for teams, and really would be a talented offensive front line.

the only issue is what will lee sign for. the knicks could have locked him up last year but saved the cap room and that has blown up in their face. they may now have to overpay to get their own player back LOL. lee may cost 15 mil/yr. in fact, i would not be surprised if somebody maxes lee out (clippers?). he is going to take the money, obviously, so the knicks need to be SMART with their money. max out amare and see what else you can get. if its lee at the max or rudy gay money, i'd have to think hard about it and i don't think i'd pull the trigger.

BigSm00th wrote:lee gives a lot of effort. he really is a beast on the boards and his offensive game has got a lot more refined. his J and passing ability make him a pretty valuable guy at 6'9" who can guard bigger guys.

this is really 2nd best scenario. amare at 5 years for the max is OK, he's already played for d'antoni and presumably d'antoni knows what he's getting and knows how to coach him. that would be a tough matchup for teams, and really would be a talented offensive front line.

the only issue is what will lee sign for. the knicks could have locked him up last year but saved the cap room and that has blown up in their face. they may now have to overpay to get their own player back LOL. lee may cost 15 mil/yr. in fact, i would not be surprised if somebody maxes lee out (clippers?). he is going to take the money, obviously, so the knicks need to be SMART with their money. max out amare and see what else you can get. if its lee at the max or rudy gay money, i'd have to think hard about it and i don't think i'd pull the trigger.

dont see the Clippers giving Lee big money (Blake?) but Nets will.

BigSm00th wrote:lee gives a lot of effort. he really is a beast on the boards and his offensive game has got a lot more refined. his J and passing ability make him a pretty valuable guy at 6'9" who can guard bigger guys.

this is really 2nd best scenario. amare at 5 years for the max is OK, he's already played for d'antoni and presumably d'antoni knows what he's getting and knows how to coach him. that would be a tough matchup for teams, and really would be a talented offensive front line.

the only issue is what will lee sign for. the knicks could have locked him up last year but saved the cap room and that has blown up in their face. they may now have to overpay to get their own player back LOL. lee may cost 15 mil/yr. in fact, i would not be surprised if somebody maxes lee out (clippers?). he is going to take the money, obviously, so the knicks need to be SMART with their money. max out amare and see what else you can get. if its lee at the max or rudy gay money, i'd have to think hard about it and i don't think i'd pull the trigger.

I think you offer Lee $11mm a year. Thats a 6 year $86mm contract. 11, 12.2, 13.4, 14.8, 16.4 and 18.1 over 6 years. For another team to match the total guarenteed money they would have to start at $14.5mm. I think that gives the Knicks a great advantage.

They could use that remaining $7mm to add Mike Miller, giving them a shooter and playmaker with great size to put at the SG.

Other cheaper options that could solidify the bench would be Kyle Lowry, Korver, Johan Petro and Shawn Livingston

fishmike wrote:

Mray20 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Mray20 wrote:I love Gallo he's a good defender and I love his offensive game , I just really don't want David Lee back he's horrible on D and I feel his stats are empty . Amare I can deal with on D but not if he is paired with Lee.

how can a guy that score 55% have empty stats? how?

Empty stats meaning he is not a game changer he gets his points but has zero impact on the game. I am a die hard Knick fan I want to make that very clear . I wanted Lee to start a few years back when he was coming off the bench but after I saw him get lit up and provide zero help defense I soured on him. I would like to have the guy on my time but as a sixth man not starting power foward. I like his hustle but not playing big time minutes he's a role player not a star you pay top money for.

then your still wrong. How many games to the Knicks win without Lee's 20/12 at 55% last year?

The reason they were in enough games to win > 30 was because they have a guy that fills the stat sheet for 20/12 and scores at 55%. Not to mention the Knicks essentially ran the offense through Lee who started racking up assists as well as the year went on.

Who's stats are more empty? Lee or Brook Lopez?

I 100% agree Lee isnt a franchise player. He is an all star and very skilled. He cleans the glass when the Knicks were actually defending back in Dec he showed effort there also.

You dont dump guys like Lee

You're right we should be happy Lee helped us win 30 games without him we would have won something like 28 games so we should definitely keep him lol. I'm not saying Lee is a bad guy to have but the bottom line is Lee with one other star is not going to get it done. There are much better players out there at the same position like Bosh, Stoudamire and Boozer.