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Cosmic
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6/14/2010  10:14 PM
As with anything that has been said or read regarding the 2010 FA market you take it at face value and until something actually happens it's just chatter.

However, while visiting family in Westchester I was put in a very very unique position I am unlikely to find myself in again.

Family is well off up there, they are pretty high in the local community, and therefore know quite a few others who are also of the same. Those others, including family, also have big ties to NYC.

One family member had a meeting scheduled with some pretty prominent figures and there was an after party. He said "hey you're up here why don't you come along this will be pretty cool." Then he says "eh, we gotta get you a suit." (LOL...I guess the tshirt, shorts, and sneakers wasnt going to cut it)

That being said I was able to be a part of a select few at a party over the weekend that featured some pretty prominent people. Over some drinks and food at one hell of an amazing house I found someone very interesting to spend time talking to. Well, they were all interesting, as it's rare to talk to certain people in the spotlight, as, well, normal people having a drink and shooting the ****, as opposed to just seeing them on TV or reading about them in the press, where you have an entirely different opinion of them. In the end they're just people and you forget this. But that's a different story and it's boring.

Without further elaboration, of this primary interest was a man who is heavily involved in NY-Sports politics. He's a wheel greaser so to speak. When the city wants to host a sports venue he is one of the men they call to try to make it happen.

He was a big part in orchestrating bringing the Super Bowl to the area in 2014. He was big in trying to bring the Olympics to the City. The guy is for real I can tell you that much. This is no joke.


Needless to say he does work for whoever hires him. Be it the Knicks, Rangers, MSG, and many other venues throughout the region and city such as the Jets, Giants, Trump, Dolan, again whoever needs something pushed he's the one they call to start the ball rolling. Including the city itself (olympics bid). <--he actually said "I can't talk about that". when I asked why NY failed for the Olympic bid and if we can try again. So I moved on.

He seemed very wide open when talking to me and I got no hint he was telling me this with a "don't pass this along" attitude. But, well, you never know, given this party and who was there (damn was I way out of place LOL my scrubby ass there talking to people who had watches worth more than everything I own), so well I'm keeping it vague. Also he was kind of vague on what exactly he does but others there said he's the real deal.

This man said he has been recently hired by Cablevision to help oversee the recruiting of big name NBA free agents to the Knicks.

Without wasting anyones time on all the convo the short points are this:

-He expects Cablevision to spend millions to try to lure LeBron and others to the Knicks. He expects billboards. He helped facilitate the 'fake' LeBron Knicks jerseys which he said is going to get more serious beyond the few shoddy ones that leaked early (said the guy who did that got canned off the "team"). He expects commercials. He said the Knicks are going to load a plane up with every single NYC great that will agree to do so and fly to LBJ's location the second they can. He said there will be Knicks, Yankees, Rangers, Giants, Celebrities (spike lee)... past and present...all there including all of the Knicks brass. He expects Cablevision to offer LBJ the world - whatever he wants on the side - to make it happen.

-His personal opinion is that LBJ is full of himself and the 2010 hoopla and he personally expects LeBron, after putting on a show when he visits NYC and a few other cities, to ultimately decide to stay in Cleveland.

-He said LBJ's "city tours" are actually most likely to be those cities going to HIM....and again cited LBJ's arrogance and determination to make a big show out of this - and stay in CLE anyway. Saying he just loves the attention just for the sake of it.

-He feels that Wade will stay in Miami and try his best to recruit Bosh or Amare....but not LBJ or Joe Johnson.

-He feels that Bosh is the #1 FA to absolutely be on the move. He expects Bosh GONE from Toronto. No second thoughts. He said all the others could stay put but Bosh was absolutely GONE.

-He named Joe Johnson as the second man that will likely move to another team.

-He suggested that Amare and Joe Johnson could end up being the two most possible to land in NY - unless Amare decides to go to Miami which would leave Bosh as the big man to go to NY. Again said that MIA is going after Bosh and Amare to team with a re-signed-MAX Wade. Said Wade has no real intention on leaving the Heat.

-He said the Knicks absolutely want Bosh and LBJ. Those are the top 2 without debate. Said the Knicks will dump everyone and anyone to make it happen. That includes Gallo, Chandler, Douglas, he said "whoever and whatever it takes if they can get Bosh and LBJ they will do it without a thought."

-He felt Chicago is not a destination for ANY of these guys but he wouldn't elaborate. I asked why and he just really didn't answer. Don't know why...and then...he deflected and went back to Amare.

...He again said that Amare is probably going to move on and might go to NY because of Mike D- and downplayed any media speculation that Mike and Amare didn't see eye to eye in Phoenix...calling it "garbage journalism".

-He said he had no call on Boozer or other guys (because they are "2nd tier") but did say he expects Boozer to be looked at as the next option once Amare and Bosh are done with their negotiations as the next big man that teams will try to get.

-He felt David Lee is going to get a big offer from other teams - and that combined with the other big name FAs looking at NY - meant Lee is gone and probably replaced with Amare or Bosh. He said he doubts Lee accepts anything less than 14M+ starting and he does expect teams to actually offer him this. Said that would be a huge turnoff to the Knicks who for "a few mil more" .. "could have a true max FA" ... "they won't do that."


I asked him again who did he think the Knicks would land. He was 50/50 saying he absolutely felt the Knicks could get left out but also said he thought given the draw and the money that we will land one of the big names. He again said LBJ is unlikely to leave CLE saying that LBJ is very high on his image and said if he leaves the hometown Cavs that his image will be tarnished and LBJ is well aware and concerned about that. He also said that LBJ wants to be global but said in today's day and age that not being able to accomplish that in Cleveland is nonesense. He then again said that he thinks that Wade will stay in Miami and recruit one of Bosh or Amare and then either Bosh or Amare could be NY's prize with Joe Johnson.

Again, take it for what you will, but he is a sincere person, and I'm not screwing around. Wish I had more but well that was about where the convo ended.

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BRIGGS
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6/14/2010  10:20 PM
Jees that could be anyone's take for goodness sakes

Id rather have Lee back than Stoudemire

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6/14/2010  10:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/14/2010  10:21 PM
What I don't get about LeBron is how he could be about winning and re-sign with a team capped out, old and going nowhere like Cleveland. They don't have significant cap space for another 2 years. Jamison is 34 and Mo Williams isn't really all that good. The rest of the team is garbage.

If he really wants to win, teaming with Bosh and Gallinari will be much better than teaming with old ass Jamison and Mo Williams. Those 2 already showed us they couldn't get it done anyway.

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6/14/2010  10:42 PM
thanks for sharing.

knicks are all in...i hope they get lebron b/c i don't know if the franchise or fanbase can recover if they don't land him.

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6/14/2010  10:45 PM
yo Cosmic, no mention of Dirk?
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6/14/2010  11:08 PM
For someone who is that much of an attention whore how can he possibly even consider staying in Cle? That said, sounds like a fair take on the current situation.
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6/14/2010  11:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/14/2010  11:19 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Jees that could be anyone's take for goodness sakes

You're right, and the guy could be off on his interpretation/analysis, but if you accept the premise that he has some kind of inside information based on contacts, his "take" has a much better chance of being legit than anything you or I can suggest.

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6/14/2010  11:33 PM
They say the FA class is so great but I think it's mostly a LBJ Bosh free agency. There is a lot of FA's but only 1 big prize
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6/14/2010  11:56 PM
It kinda adds up. I think all of this Lebron attention is overkill, just to sell some UGLY sneakers. After he screws us, a LBJ boycottis definitely in order. You know, shoes, jerseys, etc
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6/15/2010  12:08 AM
Weren't you just ****ting on people speculating? I appreciate you sharing the story but its nothing new. We all have exhausted all possibilities with free agency. One thing is for sure Donnie will not sit back waiting for Lebron to finish dicking around. Knicks will be making moves and however its done Knicks will be relevant again next season.
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6/15/2010  12:19 AM
That seems like a fair assessment overall, but lordy I am ready for this thing to be over.

I hope we can get Bosh, but I could see Bosh going to Miami pretty easily.

If we could get Bosh, Joe Johnson and trade Curry for a big man with a long contract like Biedrins or Okafor, I'd do backflips.

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6/15/2010  12:30 AM
crzymdups wrote:That seems like a fair assessment overall, but lordy I am ready for this thing to be over.

I hope we can get Bosh, but I could see Bosh going to Miami pretty easily.

If we could get Bosh, Joe Johnson and trade Curry for a big man with a long contract like Biedrins or Okafor, I'd do backflips.

I wouldnt do back flips over that but I agree with you on getting it over to see where we are at

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6/15/2010  12:44 AM
And at midnite "Cos-erella" had to leave the party and lost his glass flip flop at the high cotton sausage fest!

If lebron makes all these teams whore themselves out for his please imnever drinking sprite again!

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6/15/2010  1:45 AM
It's impossible to know what motivates a man. I just think Lebron and NY are made for each other. Bigger than life star and a bigger than life city! He will look back and regret it if he doesn't take this opportunity. People can try to downplay NY all they want, but if i'm DW I play him a long video of past Canyon of Heroes Parades and show him just how big winning here can be. He's gotta remember how sick it was when he was here for the Yankee parade. This city can be his and he'll win too, cuz we'll do whatever it takes to put the pieces around him. How could Bosh pass up a chance to play with Lebron here? I'd actually like to bring them both together and talk to both of them.
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6/15/2010  4:28 AM
thanks for sharing Cos...

... and WTF. Someone has a story to share and people bitch and moan about it being shared? Wow, some people really do get jealous when they don't get an invite

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In terms of the speculation, that's what I expected. what I find interesting is a million dollar sales pitch full of A-listers. That's effing crazy. If anyone is involved with this, please contact me as I will gladly cater the event

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6/15/2010  9:30 AM
There's not one single athlete that has been recruited this ridiculously, and if it does come down to him staying in cleveland, i will lose so much respect for him. This guy makes Arod look like a ball boy.
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6/15/2010  9:58 AM
Nalod wrote:And at midnite "Cos-erella" had to leave the party and lost his glass flip flop at the high cotton sausage fest!

If lebron makes all these teams whore themselves out for his please imnever drinking sprite again!

That is some funny shyte right there, Nalod!

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6/15/2010  10:17 AM
Some days, I feel very confident about LeBron James coming here. Other days, I feel like we're going to get dissed by every major FA and be forced to sign that sissy David Lee and overpay for Joe Johnson. This is more stressful than your team being in the Finals. I just can't wait until this is all over.
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6/15/2010  10:23 AM
iSergio wrote:Some days, I feel very confident about LeBron James coming here. Other days, I feel like we're going to get dissed by every major FA and be forced to sign that sissy David Lee and overpay for Joe Johnson. This is more stressful than your team being in the Finals. I just can't wait until this is all over.

you're the only person who would call an undersized center in the nba grabbing 12 rebounds a game a sissy. save that for the eddy currys.

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6/15/2010  11:18 AM
My gut feeling tells me Lebron isnt coming. He strikes me as cowardly. The kind of guy who is used to getting what he wants. What is his motivation for stepping outside his warm fuzzy bubble? He's not MJ and he's not Kobe. I think he wants the attention without the responsibility. I think he wants to think he has options abound, but knows and has always known he is staying put.

I think Lee gets $14mm from Washington. They need an image upgrade and he does that. They need a high BB IQ player to put up there with Blatche and McGee and he does that. They need a PF and he is that. He's great in an uptempo scoring system and his passing is excellent. Next year they will start Wall and Arenes in the backcourt, Blatch and Lee up front and go get a 3. McGee is the perfect guy to come off the bench.

I also think with the bigger raises and 6th year that Lee would stay here for less. The Wizards could offer him 5 years $82mm starting at $14mm. The Knicks could counter with 6 years $82mm starting at $10.5. Same guarenteed money. It takes an extra year to earn it w/ the Knicks.

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