Nalod wrote:Posting pictures of women in positions of submission as objects. A lot of pictures.

wtf does that have to do with Hollywood's objectification of Asian women? do i influence mainstream opinions in this country the way Hollywood does? stop trying to draw these ridiculous parallels.

in Harold and Kumar Goto White Castle. TMS, your theory is dead

TMS wrote:

Nalod wrote:Posting pictures of women in positions of submission as objects. A lot of pictures.

wtf does that have to do with Hollywood's objectification of Asian women? do i influence mainstream opinions in this country the way Hollywood does? stop trying to draw these ridiculous parallels.

You perpetuate a stereoptype.

Don't sweat it man, so does every normal male.

You think posting pictures of pretty young women with "Bukkake" comments enhances a womens stature?

Music videos degrade women all the time. It sells to the demographic desires. IN fact, think of most music videos over time. They are targeted at teens who learn from an early age. Rap or Rock, does not matter. Both do it.

BUt TMS, c'mon man, Don't most Asian cultures favor the male over the female? China in 30 years is going to have a huge drop in population because there are too many males.

Do you influence mainstream opinion? Yeah you do. You like what you like.

Nalod wrote:

TMS wrote:

Nalod wrote:Posting pictures of women in positions of submission as objects. A lot of pictures.

wtf does that have to do with Hollywood's objectification of Asian women? do i influence mainstream opinions in this country the way Hollywood does? stop trying to draw these ridiculous parallels.

You perpetuate a stereoptype.

Don't sweat it man, so does every normal male.

You think posting pictures of pretty young women with "Bukkake" comments enhances a womens stature?

Music videos degrade women all the time. It sells to the demographic desires. IN fact, think of most music videos over time. They are targeted at teens who learn from an early age. Rap or Rock, does not matter. Both do it.

BUt TMS, c'mon man, Don't most Asian cultures favor the male over the female? China in 30 years is going to have a huge drop in population because there are too many males.

Do you influence mainstream opinion? Yeah you do. You like what you like.

1 - i post pictures of all types of women, not just Asian (& i don't post pics of Asian women bedding non-Asian dudes)
2 - i'm a random shmuck posting on the internet that doesn't have the public eye
3 - the bukkake comments are a joke of a persona i'm playing up on a SPORTS message forum

different scenarios i think.

as for Asian cultures favoring the male over the female, that is an entirely different topic here... my objection is on the way Hollywood portrays Asian women as sexual objects for men of other races to use & exploit... i'm all for the appreciation of female beauty & sexuality, but when they're consistently cast as whores in a massage parlor, or call girl floozies hanging out with influential, rich & powerful white dudes in the movies i watch, it irks me... when i see a beautiful Asian woman cast in a romantic scene with an Asian male in a mainstream Hollywood movie, it will be the first time.

NYKBocker wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Nalod and TMS, you both have very good points, but in terms of movies, aren't the actors and actresses and models partaking in those roles equally as guilty?

I have mixed feelings about this, while I am disgusted at the process, I am also not blaming these actors that are going after these parts. They are just trying to make a living and perform their craft.

Now, in regards with M Night and Paramount they have failed miserably. This is their casting call for "The Last Airbender" .. "Caucasians or any other ethnicity".

i don't blame the actors, they're all trying to pay their bills like the rest of us are... i'm sure there are countless Asian actors & actresses that audition for bigger roles in movies & are rejected... either there are no talented Asian actors in this country, or the Hollywood studios are practicing a selective form of racism when casting their movies.

NYKBocker wrote:

TMS wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Nalod and TMS, you both have very good points, but in terms of movies, aren't the actors and actresses and models partaking in those roles equally as guilty?

I have mixed feelings about this, while I am disgusted at the process, I am also not blaming these actors that are going after these parts. They are just trying to make a living and perform their craft.

Now, in regards with M Night and Paramount they have failed miserably. This is their casting call for "The Last Airbender" .. "Caucasians or any other ethnicity".

i don't blame the actors, they're all trying to pay their bills like the rest of us are... i'm sure there are countless Asian actors & actresses that audition for bigger roles in movies & are rejected... either there are no talented Asian actors in this country, or the Hollywood studios are practicing a selective form of racism when casting their movies.

The last asian that was cast as a hero in hollywood and had non-asian leading ladies was Brandon Lee (RIP).

EDIT: Come to think of it, I think he is the ONLY asian cast by hollywood as a hero with non-asian leading ladies. You can't count Jet Li and Jackie Chan.

are you really surprised by this? What's the count of leading white males making movies in Asia?

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

TMS wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Nalod and TMS, you both have very good points, but in terms of movies, aren't the actors and actresses and models partaking in those roles equally as guilty?

I have mixed feelings about this, while I am disgusted at the process, I am also not blaming these actors that are going after these parts. They are just trying to make a living and perform their craft.

Now, in regards with M Night and Paramount they have failed miserably. This is their casting call for "The Last Airbender" .. "Caucasians or any other ethnicity".

i don't blame the actors, they're all trying to pay their bills like the rest of us are... i'm sure there are countless Asian actors & actresses that audition for bigger roles in movies & are rejected... either there are no talented Asian actors in this country, or the Hollywood studios are practicing a selective form of racism when casting their movies.

The last asian that was cast as a hero in hollywood and had non-asian leading ladies was Brandon Lee (RIP).

EDIT: Come to think of it, I think he is the ONLY asian cast by hollywood as a hero with non-asian leading ladies. You can't count Jet Li and Jackie Chan.

are you really surprised by this? What's the count of leading white males making movies in Asia?

Actually, there were more than a handful of white actors that starred in asia with asian production. Richard Norton was big in the late 80s and early 90s. Same with Cynthia Rothrock in the same time. During my childhood a lot of american born actors were big in the philippines. They spoke the native language but they were not pure filipino.

The argument here is that "Avatar: The Last Airbender" is based on people from asia, the pacific rim and the inuit people. Casting the movie based on a specific race with white actors is just plain dumb, ignorant and arrogant.