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6/5/2010  11:25 PM
This maybe the second time the Knicks messed up by not hiring Thibs as head coach.
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6/5/2010  11:31 PM
i remember when the bulls were rumored to be the frontrunners to trade for kevin garnet and kobe bryant, too. i'll wait til july 1 or so before i start believing these stories.
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6/5/2010  11:35 PM
NBA stands at LeBron’s beck and call

By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
1 hour, 59 minutes ago

Email Print World Wide Wes has been telling everyone that he believes LeBron James(notes) is leaning hard toward signing with the Chicago Bulls. No one can be certain if basketball’s most famous middleman has been whispering honest insights to friends or amping the anxiety of Cleveland owner Dan Gilbert. Just know this: It wasn’t until Tom Thibodeau – who swore he never again wanted an agent – signed with William Wesley’s CAA that the Chicago Bulls grew serious about the coach’s candidacy.



LeBron James is already influencing coaching and front-office decisions a month before he officially becomes a free agent.

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Something pushed Bulls officials to get on a plane, fly to Los Angeles on the eve of the NBA Finals and meet with the Boston Celtics assistant coach. Within 48 hours, the Bulls had a deal for Thibodeau to become their head coach. For several weeks, the Bulls had chances to interview him. They never did. Just a year ago, Thibodeau couldn’t get offers from the Sacramento Kings, Detroit Pistons, Philadelphia Sixers and Minnesota Timberwolves. The Celtics see him as a career assistant and wouldn’t even consider him as a candidate to replace Doc Rivers.

More From Adrian WojnarowskiFeel his fury: Gasol pushes back Jun 4, 2010 Kobe stands upon foundation for success Jun 3, 2010 Only now, Tom Thibodeau has a three-year contract to coach the Chicago Bulls.

As one front-office executive with a franchise that has significant salary-cap space this summer said, “I think all the big free-agent deals will be done by July 1, if not the draft. The NBA would have a cow if [it] knew what’s going on now.”

Some league executives don’t even believe Bulls general manager Gar Forman was sold on Thibodeau, but it doesn’t matter. Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf was. Everything is happening on the ownership level now, and that’s the reason Gilbert wants to become Jerry Jones and Danny Ferry wanted out of a Cleveland future whether it included LeBron James or not. The hiring of Thibodeau doesn’t assure the Bulls of James, but consider it something of a down payment.


Dwyane Wade(notes) isn’t coming to the Bulls, and they know it. He’s recruiting free agents for the Miami Heat now, and his public disparaging of the Bulls’ lack of loyalty to their former great players was mostly directed toward the ears of his free-agent peers. Wade is selling the organizational stability of the Heat, the possibility of playing for the best available championship coach on the market, Pat Riley.

Riley promises to sell James and Chris Bosh(notes) on taking a little less money for a chance to be champions. He plans to tell them all about how the Showtime Lakers did it in the pre-salary cap ’80’s and how they can do it, too. It’s an improbable scenario, and a source with knowledge of his plans says Riley clearly prefers Chris Bosh over Amar’e Stoudemire(notes) with the second max contract slot the Heat have available. In fact, Riley is believed to still be torn about whether he would take Stoudemire over Utah’s Carlos Boozer(notes). Riley is also intrigued with signing Boston’s Ray Allen(notes) to get a shooter on the floor with Wade.

What’s been lost for the Cavaliers is the strong, steady leadership they had with Ferry and coach Mike Brown. Gilbert was honest with Ferry: He wanted to take back control and involve himself with everything again. Before Ferry was hired as GM, it wasn’t uncommon for Gilbert to pass notes to the bench for substitutions he wanted Paul Silas to make. Ferry had come out of San Antonio, and believed an orderly structure made for successful, winning organizations.

“LeBron never had to come out and say that he wanted Brown and Ferry gone,” one front-office executive familiar with the Cavs’ dynamic said. “But the anti-Brown and anti-Ferry sentiment from LeBron’s crowd was loud and clear to Dan Gilbert. He knew where LeBron stood.”

Ferry convinced Gilbert to step back, let him do his job. But more and more, the owner’s impulsive need to inject himself into everything took over the franchise. Most of all, Gilbert had become the biggest enabler of LeBron James and his inner circle, and that only promises to get worse. Ferry never loved the players’ pregame skits, the hiring of James’ buddies, the associates’ riding on the team plane, but Gilbert seldom said no to anything. He behaved like the permissive parent who believed his kid would love him more if he spoiled him rotten. And it got the Cavs a superstar, James, who never respected anyone and a cast of associates who had the run of the place. Had James wanted Ferry to still be the GM, Gilbert would’ve backed down and Ferry would have a new contract.


“Danny’s been miserable for the past two years,” a friend of his told Yahoo! Sports. “Even if they kept LeBron, do you still lose for winning there anyway?”

Ferry fought to retain Brown, but Gilbert, a staunch Michigan State man, is determined to hire away Tom Izzo. Unless James tells him he wants John Calipari, and then they’ll hire John Calipari. As much as anything, the Cavaliers are giving the franchise completely over to James and his inner circle now. Whatever he wants to stay, he’ll get. Now, Ferry isn’t there to play the wet blanket anymore. He never feared fighting Gilbert on issues because he had stature, money and, truth be told, he didn’t need the job.

All this changes with the promotion of new GM Chris Grant, a capable and respected young executive who won’t have nearly the muscle with Gilbert that his old boss did. Grant isn’t in the job to challenge the owner, but to carry out his vision. The message to James and his people is unmistakable: Whatever you want here, you’ll have. Your way is our way now. That isn’t how it works with winning organizations, and the tragic part is that James may well recognize that and bail on Cleveland anyway.

All the pieces stay fluid and evolving now. World Wide Wes whispers the Bulls for those listening, and all hell has broken loose with a free-agent chase for LeBron James that’s well under way long before July 1.

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6/5/2010  11:36 PM
crzymdups wrote:i remember when the bulls were rumored to be the frontrunners to trade for kevin garnet and kobe bryant, too. i'll wait til july 1 or so before i start believing these stories.

The difference guys between like you and me and someone like BRIGGS is that BRIGGS will not wait before starting to believe. He will panic and fold under the pressure and it's already begun.

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6/5/2010  11:48 PM
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crzymdups wrote:i remember when the bulls were rumored to be the frontrunners to trade for kevin garnet and kobe bryant, too. i'll wait til july 1 or so before i start believing these stories.

The difference guys between like you and me and someone like BRIGGS is that BRIGGS will not wait before starting to believe. He will panic and fold under the pressure and it's already begun.

I think the article is pretty insightful and shows to what extent that teams will go to for LBJ. Losing Ferry because Gilbert wants to take over is kind of scary. Hearing about LBJ's crew working for the Cavs is reminiscent of the Marbury family in NJ and NY. I disagree about Wojo's declaration that teams were not looking at Thibs as a head coach. He has been a name mentioned every year, and has been the mind behind some very successful defenses. Its interesting that speculation is that a defensive coach was hired to lure LeBron to Chicago. I think there is cause for concern. I didn't see any mention of assistant olympic coaches relationships with LeBron mentioned.
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crzymdups wrote:i remember when the bulls were rumored to be the frontrunners to trade for kevin garnet and kobe bryant, too. i'll wait til july 1 or so before i start believing these stories.

The difference guys between like you and me and someone like BRIGGS is that BRIGGS will not wait before starting to believe. He will panic and fold under the pressure and it's already begun.

I don't wear rose-colored glasses nor do I live with my Mommy.

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6/6/2010  12:01 AM
I'm not worried by stories like this. There will likely be another story down the line saying that Lebron is going to Miami. No one really knows. None of these guys knows what Walsh is going to say or do July 1. What he says and does could change everything. He worked for two years on this plan and I wouldn't be shocked at anything he does at this point. Lebron won't make up his mind before he hears what Donnie and he other GM's have to say.
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Childs2Dudley wrote:
crzymdups wrote:i remember when the bulls were rumored to be the frontrunners to trade for kevin garnet and kobe bryant, too. i'll wait til july 1 or so before i start believing these stories.

The difference guys between like you and me and someone like BRIGGS is that BRIGGS will not wait before starting to believe. He will panic and fold under the pressure and it's already begun.

I don't wear rose-colored glasses nor do I live with my Mommy.

No you wear Chicken Little glasses with delusions of grandeur mixed in with psychotic episodes.

BRIGGS wrote:I think were going to get LBJ--I think it will happen.

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=35081

Not sure what living with your mom had to do with any of this but nice job anyway BRIGGS. Why don't you go back to begging LeBron not to sign here like you did a few months back? You really should be happy about this.

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crzymdups wrote:i remember when the bulls were rumored to be the frontrunners to trade for kevin garnet and kobe bryant, too. i'll wait til july 1 or so before i start believing these stories.

The difference guys between like you and me and someone like BRIGGS is that BRIGGS will not wait before starting to believe. He will panic and fold under the pressure and it's already begun.

I think the article is pretty insightful and shows to what extent that teams will go to for LBJ. Losing Ferry because Gilbert wants to take over is kind of scary. Hearing about LBJ's crew working for the Cavs is reminiscent of the Marbury family in NJ and NY. I disagree about Wojo's declaration that teams were not looking at Thibs as a head coach. He has been a name mentioned every year, and has been the mind behind some very successful defenses. Its interesting that speculation is that a defensive coach was hired to lure LeBron to Chicago. I think there is cause for concern. I didn't see any mention of assistant olympic coaches relationships with LeBron mentioned.

You know when I'm concerned? When LeBron signs with any team but the Knicks. Until then, I don't really hang on every single rumor published and on every word LeBron says. It's ridiculous.

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crzymdups wrote:i remember when the bulls were rumored to be the frontrunners to trade for kevin garnet and kobe bryant, too. i'll wait til july 1 or so before i start believing these stories.

The difference guys between like you and me and someone like BRIGGS is that BRIGGS will not wait before starting to believe. He will panic and fold under the pressure and it's already begun.

I think the article is pretty insightful and shows to what extent that teams will go to for LBJ. Losing Ferry because Gilbert wants to take over is kind of scary. Hearing about LBJ's crew working for the Cavs is reminiscent of the Marbury family in NJ and NY. I disagree about Wojo's declaration that teams were not looking at Thibs as a head coach. He has been a name mentioned every year, and has been the mind behind some very successful defenses. Its interesting that speculation is that a defensive coach was hired to lure LeBron to Chicago. I think there is cause for concern. I didn't see any mention of assistant olympic coaches relationships with LeBron mentioned.

You know when I'm concerned? When LeBron signs with any team but the Knicks. Until then, I don't really hang on every single rumor published and on every word LeBron says. It's ridiculous.


I don't see most of this as rumor. What was discussed in the article are the changes that teams are making. The rumor/speculation part of the article is that the changes are related to LeBron. I see these as significant developments, similar to when the Knicks put themselves in the position to sign two max free agents. I think what is happening in Cleveland is not good and I would be concerned and frustrated if I was a Cavs fan. I think Chicago hiring Thibs is a great move. I think he is a big upgrade over Del Negro and I think he will be a great coach. The connection to LeBron's agent and World Wide Wes is an added bonus but if LeBron is somewhere else I still think they won the coaching lottery.
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Childs2Dudley wrote:
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crzymdups wrote:i remember when the bulls were rumored to be the frontrunners to trade for kevin garnet and kobe bryant, too. i'll wait til july 1 or so before i start believing these stories.

The difference guys between like you and me and someone like BRIGGS is that BRIGGS will not wait before starting to believe. He will panic and fold under the pressure and it's already begun.

I think the article is pretty insightful and shows to what extent that teams will go to for LBJ. Losing Ferry because Gilbert wants to take over is kind of scary. Hearing about LBJ's crew working for the Cavs is reminiscent of the Marbury family in NJ and NY. I disagree about Wojo's declaration that teams were not looking at Thibs as a head coach. He has been a name mentioned every year, and has been the mind behind some very successful defenses. Its interesting that speculation is that a defensive coach was hired to lure LeBron to Chicago. I think there is cause for concern. I didn't see any mention of assistant olympic coaches relationships with LeBron mentioned.

You know when I'm concerned? When LeBron signs with any team but the Knicks. Until then, I don't really hang on every single rumor published and on every word LeBron says. It's ridiculous.


I don't see most of this as rumor. What was discussed in the article are the changes that teams are making. The rumor/speculation part of the article is that the changes are related to LeBron. I see these as significant developments, similar to when the Knicks put themselves in the position to sign two max free agents. I think what is happening in Cleveland is not good and I would be concerned and frustrated if I was a Cavs fan. I think Chicago hiring Thibs is a great move. I think he is a big upgrade over Del Negro and I think he will be a great coach. The connection to LeBron's agent and World Wide Wes is an added bonus but if LeBron is somewhere else I still think they won the coaching lottery.

This is a rumor. Not sure what you're talking about. Just because you don't see it as one doesn't mean it isn't. Clearly it is stated that Woj is hearing that Mr. Wesley is "whispering" about the Bulls. Do we know this for a fact no? Has Wesley told him that? No. Welsey is known to be a very quiet guy who gives information to nobody, especially if he is told to keep quiet. We'll see how it all plays out and if Woj is right. But to sit here and over-analyze every article written and the ramifications of this, that and the other thing has gotten tiring to say the least.

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6/6/2010  1:29 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
crzymdups wrote:i remember when the bulls were rumored to be the frontrunners to trade for kevin garnet and kobe bryant, too. i'll wait til july 1 or so before i start believing these stories.

The difference guys between like you and me and someone like BRIGGS is that BRIGGS will not wait before starting to believe. He will panic and fold under the pressure and it's already begun.

I think the article is pretty insightful and shows to what extent that teams will go to for LBJ. Losing Ferry because Gilbert wants to take over is kind of scary. Hearing about LBJ's crew working for the Cavs is reminiscent of the Marbury family in NJ and NY. I disagree about Wojo's declaration that teams were not looking at Thibs as a head coach. He has been a name mentioned every year, and has been the mind behind some very successful defenses. Its interesting that speculation is that a defensive coach was hired to lure LeBron to Chicago. I think there is cause for concern. I didn't see any mention of assistant olympic coaches relationships with LeBron mentioned.

You know when I'm concerned? When LeBron signs with any team but the Knicks. Until then, I don't really hang on every single rumor published and on every word LeBron says. It's ridiculous.


I don't see most of this as rumor. What was discussed in the article are the changes that teams are making. The rumor/speculation part of the article is that the changes are related to LeBron. I see these as significant developments, similar to when the Knicks put themselves in the position to sign two max free agents. I think what is happening in Cleveland is not good and I would be concerned and frustrated if I was a Cavs fan. I think Chicago hiring Thibs is a great move. I think he is a big upgrade over Del Negro and I think he will be a great coach. The connection to LeBron's agent and World Wide Wes is an added bonus but if LeBron is somewhere else I still think they won the coaching lottery.

This is a rumor. Not sure what you're talking about. Just because you don't see it as one doesn't mean it isn't. Clearly it is stated that Woj is hearing that Mr. Wesley is "whispering" about the Bulls. Do we know this for a fact no? Has Wesley told him that? No. Welsey is known to be a very quiet guy who gives information to nobody, especially if he is told to keep quiet. We'll see how it all plays out and if Woj is right. But to sit here and over-analyze every article written and the ramifications of this, that and the other thing has gotten tiring to say the least.

I think the relationship between Thibs and LeBron's agent and now Wes is what was being talked about. I am a big Thibs fan and wanted him as Knicks coach when Chaney was hired. I saw this in an article about Thibs.

Thibodeau's association with Creative Artists Agency, under whose umbrella LeBron James' respected agent, Leon Rose, sits, will do nothing to quell speculation James is headed to the Bulls in free agency.

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6/6/2010  2:06 AM
I don't know. Out of the blue Tim T signs with WWW. Than the Bulls sign TT--now WWW says LBJ to Bulls

what the H would a Knick fan read out of that--how can someone say just rumor when most of it is 100% fact?

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This is a rumor. Not sure what you're talking about. Just because you don't see it as one doesn't mean it isn't. Clearly it is stated that Woj is hearing that Mr. Wesley is "whispering" about the Bulls. Do we know this for a fact no? Has Wesley told him that? No. Welsey is known to be a very quiet guy who gives information to nobody, especially if he is told to keep quiet. We'll see how it all plays out and if Woj is right. But to sit here and over-analyze every article written and the ramifications of this, that and the other thing has gotten tiring to say the least.

Maybe he was told to say something- you have to think that he is not going to say speak about something like this without Lebron's OK.

What is the purpose of making people think Lebron might be leaning toward Chicago, though? Hard to believe that a team like the Knicks would need any further incentive to make them do everything they can to make the the team one James would want to go to. What can we offer him besides a max contract, the ability to sign another max, and a promise to do everything we can to build a championship quality surrounding cast?

I almost think that Walsh should give James a non-suck-up walk through of everything the team and the city has to offer. Ban all photographers when possible. Play hard to get and let him see that we are not going to humble ourselves while he is getting some photo ops, building his sneaker empire, and feeding his ego.

Seems like during Walsh's short tenure, players have used the Knicks to ratchet up offers and interest from the teams they really want to play for. I am kind of tired of this stuff, and don't like the idea that James may be using us (and any other teams, for that matter) for his own purposes.

I think that the Bulls might be a better team basketball-wise to play for than us (although I have to think that James and Rose might have trouble playing together), but I continue to believe that he is setting himself up for some hard times if he thinks he is going to have an easy time playing in Jordan's shadow.

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6/6/2010  3:34 AM
Donnie will have to explain how he'll fillout the rest of the roster and continue to build on the team. Not only do we have the cap space now but we won't be stuck like Cleveland is with no cap space to make further improvements. Rose is a good player but not so much off the ball. I don't think it would be a great fit. The Bulls aren't built to spread the floor. In the end I just don't believe Lebron would go live in the giant shadow of Jordan. How can he live up to that and why should he? He could come to NY and be considered a hero with just one title and a Demi god if he wins more than one here! My gut says he won't go to Chicago.
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6/6/2010  8:02 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/6/2010  8:05 AM
This article is one of the better LBJ ones. That said, it presumes LBJ's circle has just as much if not more sway than LBJ himself. Could be true but it seems somewhat ridiculous to think he'll make his decisions upon what his friends prefer
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SupremeCommander wrote:This article is one of the better LBJ ones. That said, it presumes LBJ's circle has just as much if not more sway than LBJ himself. Could be true but it seems somewhat ridiculous to think he'll make his decisions upon what his friends prefer

The thing is, Lebron's friends are not just your ordinary guys. They have helped him make good choices in his life. Every thing from the way he speaks to what he wears in interviews are decisions made by his friends. They are also top minded people. This Lebron decision is better than people think. It is bigger than just basketball.

If more players and people had friends like Lebron's friends they would be more successful in their careers.

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BRIGGS wrote:I don't know. Out of the blue Tim T signs with WWW. Than the Bulls sign TT--now WWW says LBJ to Bulls

what the H would a Knick fan read out of that--how can someone say just rumor when most of it is 100% fact?

because WWW is TT's agent? of course he's going to intimate that getting his client (tt) a contract will help a team's chances of getting lebron.

remember when it was supposed to be calipari going to the bulls? maybe lebron is involved in all this, maybe he's not.

i'd find it funny if he had hand-picked another defensive minded coach with no offensive experience. that's exactly what mike brown was.

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