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17 years ago today, most crushing loss in my history as a Knick fan
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6/2/2010  1:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/2/2010  1:58 PM
Yes, even worse than game 6 or 7 of the 1994 NBA Finals to me. The Charles Smith game. We had the Bulls, we had home court, that was the year we were to get by Jordan. We led the series 2-0. Had a golden chance to take command in game 3, Jordan left the door open with one of his rare off efforts in a big game going 3 for 17 in game 3, but we could not capitalize. Of course, you couldn't hold MJ down for a whole series, and he would explode for 54 points in game 4, leading to game 5 at MSG. Thats when this happened

I still haven't quite gotten over that loss. All the missed free throws in that game. I would have loved at least the chance to play a game 7 at MSG

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6/2/2010  1:57 PM
Yeah, this was a killer because we had no chance at winning that Game 6 in Chicago. That was also the best team of the Patrick Ewing era.
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6/2/2010  2:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/2/2010  2:40 PM
I was in 7th grade at the time, and for those of us who grew up in that era, you knew how many front-running Bulls/Jordan fans there were around here. Going to school those next couple of days was just brutal after talking smack leading up to that series thinking it was OUR YEAR. After "The Dunk" in game 2, where John Starks went up in the vicinity of Michael Jordan (wasn't really over MJ, but since us Knick fans could never really get over on Jordan, we instead will resort to manufacturing minor victories like saying Starks dunked over him when he really didn't, although i did have that poster hanging up in my room pretty much until I moved out of my parents house) you weren't going to convince me we were losing that series

Charles Smith gets a lot of heat for that, but we lost that game at the foul line. It shouldn't have been close in the final moments, we missed a TON of foul shots that night

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6/2/2010  2:07 PM
Horrible. There was so much passion in those games. Time does not heal all wounds.
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6/2/2010  2:08 PM
ARGHHHH

DUNK IT SMITH... i couldnt understand why he didnt try and get some more contact. make the refs call it if you wont dunk it.

GO TEAM VENTURE!!!!!
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6/2/2010  2:12 PM
If there is one positive to this last decade of Knick basketball, it is never at any point have I gone to bed after a game as totally crushed as I was at some of these 90s moments, this one right at the top. Of course I'd trade this last decade in for a re-do of the 90s in a heartbeat, but nights like this were tougher to deal with than any night of this decade of futility
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6/2/2010  2:13 PM
I don't remember a single play Smith was involved in and I watched 75+ games a year in the regular season back then and never missed a playoff.
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6/2/2010  2:14 PM
that was my first year with a 14 game plan w/ a friend of mine in college.

we sat in section 408, row G. we got our tix literally 2 weeks before the season started.

we went 14-0 during the regular season.

and undefeated in the playoffs...until that game.

walking out, the entire air was gone from the place. everybody knew it was over.

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6/2/2010  2:29 PM
Here is the game 5 boxscore. A pitiful 20-35 from the foul line

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199306020NYK.html

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6/2/2010  2:33 PM
I was at that game, it was like leaving a funeral.
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6/2/2010  2:53 PM
Game 6 & 7 of 94 was the worst feeling for me, but the Smith Debacle lingers longer in terms of my anger. You couldn't be angry about the loss in 94, but you can carry that anger and sense of a missed opportunity about that Smith game forever. We were the better team IMO, but they just flat rose up and got it done and our team shrank. It's in games like that where you see the real difference between elite players and the rest of the guys. Those elite players can just rise another level in the bit moment. Smith lost the little athletic ability he had with each attempt and the Bulls just got more resolute each time.
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6/2/2010  3:00 PM
nixluva wrote:Game 6 & 7 of 94 was the worst feeling for me, but the Smith Debacle lingers longer in terms of my anger. You couldn't be angry about the loss in 94, but you can carry that anger and sense of a missed opportunity about that Smith game forever. We were the better team IMO, but they just flat rose up and got it done and our team shrank. It's in games like that where you see the real difference between elite players and the rest of the guys. Those elite players can just rise another level in the bit moment. Smith lost the little athletic ability he had with each attempt and the Bulls just got more resolute each time.

Losing to Miami in 1997 was worse for me.

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6/2/2010  3:00 PM
nixluva wrote:Game 6 & 7 of 94 was the worst feeling for me, but the Smith Debacle lingers longer in terms of my anger. You couldn't be angry about the loss in 94, but you can carry that anger and sense of a missed opportunity about that Smith game forever. We were the better team IMO, but they just flat rose up and got it done and our team shrank. It's in games like that where you see the real difference between elite players and the rest of the guys. Those elite players can just rise another level in the bit moment. Smith lost the little athletic ability he had with each attempt and the Bulls just got more resolute each time.

Its very tough to choose between that gm 5 in 93 vs Chicago and game 6 and 7 vs Houston in 94. Obviously the Rocket series we were one win away from a world championship. But To me Chicago hurt more because the Bulls were the bigger rival and MJ had already disposed of us 3 times in the playoffs by 93. So there was all this built up hatred for Chicago that wasn't really there for the Rockets, not to mention I was dealing with tens of front-running Bulls fans daily and didn't know a rocket fan. Plus, as silly as it may sound, there was sort of a feeling of "cheapness" to win a title while prime Jordan was playing baseball. It would have been much sweeter to go through him, and we had the chance. Not saying i wouldn't have thoroughly enjoyed winning it all in 94, I would have, but it would have been so much sweeter a year earlier

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6/2/2010  3:04 PM
i was at that game. i was also at game 1 of the 94 finals in houston and game 3 in the garden - all losses

the smith game was horrific leaving the garden. funereal was a good word for it.

game 1 in 94 wasn't that horrible because of it being game 1 and away. not exactly an upset loss.

game 3 was horrendous. we gave them their home court right freaking back and were already showing signs of giving away a gift-wrapped title.

but for me by far the very worst game of the ewing era was game 7 of 94. we so blew that series. a title. a f**king title. given to us by mr. jordan. and we did every possible to not take what was given to us. and we succeeded.

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6/2/2010  3:10 PM
Marv wrote:i was at that game. i was also at game 1 of the 94 finals in houston and game 3 in the garden - all losses

the smith game was horrific leaving the garden. funereal was a good word for it.

game 1 in 94 wasn't that horrible because of it being game 1 and away. not exactly an upset loss.

game 3 was horrendous. we gave them their home court right freaking back and were already showing signs of giving away a gift-wrapped title.

but for me by far the very worst game of the ewing era was game 7 of 94. we so blew that series. a title. a f**king title. given to us by mr. jordan. and we did every possible to not take what was given to us. and we succeeded.

NBA TV was actually running one of those "great past playoff moments" shows yesterday and did a piece on Cassell's shot in game 3 of the 94 finals. That was indeed a brutal loss. That was just a frustrating series all together. We didn't even get to see most of our last win in that series (gm 5) because OJ Simpson was driving around in his white Bronco and NBC had to join every other network carrying it live. I just remember being wildly pissed missing that live action.

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6/2/2010  3:17 PM
Smith was FOULED!!! I mean Pippen and Jordan was just wacking at him and they did not call a foul. I count 2 times Pippen hit Smith in the head. Jordan slapped him twice in the arm. I hate them farking Bulls. I hope they all rot in hell!!!
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6/2/2010  3:34 PM
That Bulls team was the 18th best of all time according to John Hollinger. But the worst Bulls teams of that era. They only won 57 games.
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6/2/2010  3:36 PM
Vividly remember the end. Pops was using anything he could get his hands on as projectiles after that one.

Charles Smith will live in infamy. Whenever me and my pops see a hard ass dunk we say "Charles Smith" in mocking tribute of that baby shyt soft, fool.

I dont care what anybody says, duke was 6'10, built like a greek god (no Ricky Martin) and right underneath the rim in the biggest Knick game in 20 years --- and he went up soft and fading. You gotta at least draw significant contact (although they prolly stripped a lil skin off his fingers with those slaps). They were not going to call anything on Jordan unless you made them.

To me, he's our Bill Buckner.

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6/2/2010  3:44 PM
KnicksSince88 wrote:I was in 7th grade at the time, and for those of us who grew up in that era, you knew how many front-running Bulls/Jordan fans there were around here. Going to school those next couple of days was just brutal after talking smack leading up to that series thinking it was OUR YEAR. After "The Dunk" in game 2, where John Starks went up in the vicinity of Michael Jordan (wasn't really over MJ, but since us Knick fans could never really get over on Jordan, we instead will resort to manufacturing minor victories like saying Starks dunked over him when he really didn't, although i did have that poster hanging up in my room pretty much until I moved out of my parents house) you weren't going to convince me we were losing that series

Charles Smith gets a lot of heat for that, but we lost that game at the foul line. It shouldn't have been close in the final moments, we missed a TON of foul shots that night


Thank you!!!!!! I know many are romantic on the era but that game was brutal. WE had it!

Charles smith play at the end was representive of the fold we did.

The riley teams were just no right in the head to finish games. Bone head Technicals and missed free throws were symtomatic of the era. Ewing was ego driven and could not admit he was breaking down and in pain. Call it a "warrior" or "man in denial"!

By the time the 1999 finals rolled around It did not even bother me we got trumphed as the season was a total success with less expectations.

Knicks were frustrating at times.

Knick fans suffered for our Yankee arrogance toward the Redsowx!

Im rooting for LA. Phuck the celtics!

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6/2/2010  4:05 PM
sebstar wrote:
Charles Smith will live in infamy. Whenever me and my pops see a hard ass dunk we say "Charles Smith" in mocking tribute of that baby shyt soft, fool.

To this day, whenever Im watching a basketball game, or playing in one, and see someone struggle to convert a few successive attempts right under the basket, I immediately think of Charles Smith. Every. Single. Time. Its like war flashbacks

17 years ago today, most crushing loss in my history as a Knick fan

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