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A look back at the Isiah Thomas Era
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Childs2Dudley
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5/31/2010  2:27 AM

I threw in some Harrington and Duhon just for ****s and giggles as well.

This video sums it all up. The bad, the worse, and the disgraceful all in one. But it does end on a nice note I think.

Tell me all what you think of the video.

Depressing, yes, but I also feel some hope for the first time in a long time.

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5/31/2010  12:07 PM
Very good and very depressing.

If Lebron sees this, no way he's coming here, though.

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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5/31/2010  6:01 PM
I miss those days.
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Solace
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5/31/2010  6:08 PM
BasketballJones wrote:I miss those days.

You would.

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
TMS
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5/31/2010  6:39 PM
NO WE CAN'T!

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6/1/2010  3:59 AM
Nice work! I really enjoyed it.
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6/1/2010  8:15 AM
Everything can change but people dont.
Biggest illusion of all times.
And yes - idiots are tend to come together.
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6/1/2010  8:22 AM
enjoyed it too... was shocked that (1) there wasn't clips of Marbs sobbing and (2) there were some upbeat moments too. Good job
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6/1/2010  11:35 AM
See if you can do it for the Layden ERA, cause IMO thats were the down fall started
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6/1/2010  5:39 PM
Honestly, if Walsh strikes out with LBJ, Bosh, Wade, and Amare, we might start viewing the IT era alot better because the Walsh era would be a total disaster.
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6/1/2010  6:10 PM
TheGame wrote:Honestly, if Walsh strikes out with LBJ, Bosh, Wade, and Amare, we might start viewing the IT era alot better because the Walsh era would be a total disaster.

is that what you really think?

The way I see it, the IT era started with the Marbury trade and is just about ending with Curry's contract and the loss of this years lottery pick. That's about 6+ years of IT caca (with Walsh cleaning up the last 2).

And you already want to declare the Walsh era a total disaster?

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6/1/2010  8:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/1/2010  8:19 PM
TheGame wrote:Honestly, if Walsh strikes out with LBJ, Bosh, Wade, and Amare, we might start viewing the IT era alot better because the Walsh era would be a total disaster.

agreed... the entire gameplan he came in here with was to clear up cap space to lure bigname FA's to NYC in the summer of 2010... if he fails in that plan this summer it was a huge failure & a waste of 2 years (not to mention draft picks) where we did absolutely nothing to try & improve the team waiting for this opportunity to present itself.

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6/1/2010  8:21 PM
TMS wrote:
TheGame wrote:Honestly, if Walsh strikes out with LBJ, Bosh, Wade, and Amare, we might start viewing the IT era alot better because the Walsh era would be a total disaster.

agreed... the entire gameplan he came in here with was to clear up cap space to lure bigname FA's to NYC in the summer of 2010... if he fails in that plan this summer it was a huge failure & a waste of 2 years where we did absolutely nothing to try & improve the team waiting for this opportunity to present itself.

I don't necessarily agree. It would only be a failure if he wastes the available money on losers. If he keeps the money available, there's still some possibilities in 2011 and 2012, especially since we'll also have Curry off the books. But, still, obviously this summer is the goal.

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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6/1/2010  8:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/1/2010  8:23 PM
Solace wrote:
TMS wrote:
TheGame wrote:Honestly, if Walsh strikes out with LBJ, Bosh, Wade, and Amare, we might start viewing the IT era alot better because the Walsh era would be a total disaster.

agreed... the entire gameplan he came in here with was to clear up cap space to lure bigname FA's to NYC in the summer of 2010... if he fails in that plan this summer it was a huge failure & a waste of 2 years where we did absolutely nothing to try & improve the team waiting for this opportunity to present itself.

I don't necessarily agree. It would only be a failure if he wastes the available money on losers. If he keeps the money available, there's still some possibilities in 2011 and 2012, especially since we'll also have Curry off the books. But, still, obviously this summer is the goal.

if he strikes out on bigname FA's this summer how is it not a failure? we could have hired a blind monkey to do nothing but sit on his hands for the past 2 years & been in the same position otherwise & still held onto our draft picks.

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6/1/2010  8:36 PM
man we really look like the bad news bears of the nba, what mess
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6/1/2010  10:11 PM
TMS wrote:
Solace wrote:
TMS wrote:
TheGame wrote:Honestly, if Walsh strikes out with LBJ, Bosh, Wade, and Amare, we might start viewing the IT era alot better because the Walsh era would be a total disaster.

agreed... the entire gameplan he came in here with was to clear up cap space to lure bigname FA's to NYC in the summer of 2010... if he fails in that plan this summer it was a huge failure & a waste of 2 years where we did absolutely nothing to try & improve the team waiting for this opportunity to present itself.

I don't necessarily agree. It would only be a failure if he wastes the available money on losers. If he keeps the money available, there's still some possibilities in 2011 and 2012, especially since we'll also have Curry off the books. But, still, obviously this summer is the goal.

if he strikes out on bigname FA's this summer how is it not a failure? we could have hired a blind monkey to do nothing but sit on his hands for the past 2 years & been in the same position otherwise & still held onto our draft picks.

You can't look at it only one way. The idea is to be in the game and we are top players in this game all due to what DW did so far. We couldn't get a guy like Lebron to come here unless we can give him the very strong belief that this team can be better than what he can get anywhere else. That is something we can at least try to do with the ability to bring in a 2nd Max player. So if we fail to convince him that doesn't negate the need to be in position to seriously make that offer.

Now even if it's not Lebron there are other top FA's and I think there's still a good chance that we can land two of them. If we fail at that then we still have the cap space to use in the following year in addition to the Curry contract. There is absolutely no bad outcome except or spending the money on losing players, which I don't see DW doing. He's said that he won't do that an I believe him.

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6/1/2010  10:11 PM
TMS wrote:
Solace wrote:
TMS wrote:
TheGame wrote:Honestly, if Walsh strikes out with LBJ, Bosh, Wade, and Amare, we might start viewing the IT era alot better because the Walsh era would be a total disaster.

agreed... the entire gameplan he came in here with was to clear up cap space to lure bigname FA's to NYC in the summer of 2010... if he fails in that plan this summer it was a huge failure & a waste of 2 years where we did absolutely nothing to try & improve the team waiting for this opportunity to present itself.

I don't necessarily agree. It would only be a failure if he wastes the available money on losers. If he keeps the money available, there's still some possibilities in 2011 and 2012, especially since we'll also have Curry off the books. But, still, obviously this summer is the goal.

if he strikes out on bigname FA's this summer how is it not a failure? we could have hired a blind monkey to do nothing but sit on his hands for the past 2 years & been in the same position otherwise & still held onto our draft picks.

Do you really think that in real world you can ignore the rules of the game?
I think you intellegent enough to understand that to build anything in NBA, as in any other pro sport, GM must do things which are politically necessary, even if they make no sense parctically.
Walsh managed to minimize damage and reach his major goals at teh same time. What will Blind Monkey do?

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6/1/2010  10:32 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/1/2010  10:33 PM
TMS wrote:
Solace wrote:
TMS wrote:
TheGame wrote:Honestly, if Walsh strikes out with LBJ, Bosh, Wade, and Amare, we might start viewing the IT era alot better because the Walsh era would be a total disaster.

agreed... the entire gameplan he came in here with was to clear up cap space to lure bigname FA's to NYC in the summer of 2010... if he fails in that plan this summer it was a huge failure & a waste of 2 years where we did absolutely nothing to try & improve the team waiting for this opportunity to present itself.

I don't necessarily agree. It would only be a failure if he wastes the available money on losers. If he keeps the money available, there's still some possibilities in 2011 and 2012, especially since we'll also have Curry off the books. But, still, obviously this summer is the goal.

if he strikes out on bigname FA's this summer how is it not a failure? we could have hired a blind monkey to do nothing but sit on his hands for the past 2 years & been in the same position otherwise & still held onto our draft picks.

Well, it's obviously not plan A working, but it's not a direct failure. It's not like this team was doing anything by following the current path and with the salaries we had tied up, we weren't going anywhere. I like David Lee, but when your best player is David Lee, you've just not a good team. Considering what Donnie inherited, I don't think it's fair to call it a failure, because almost no other strategy had any chance of turning this around in 2 years either. I guess what I'm saying is, if we strike out in 2010, but we strike gold in 2011 (I forget who is available in 2011), it would be far from a disaster.

The draft picks point I'll grant you, though.

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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6/1/2010  10:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/1/2010  10:50 PM
arkrud wrote:
TMS wrote:
Solace wrote:
TMS wrote:
TheGame wrote:Honestly, if Walsh strikes out with LBJ, Bosh, Wade, and Amare, we might start viewing the IT era alot better because the Walsh era would be a total disaster.

agreed... the entire gameplan he came in here with was to clear up cap space to lure bigname FA's to NYC in the summer of 2010... if he fails in that plan this summer it was a huge failure & a waste of 2 years where we did absolutely nothing to try & improve the team waiting for this opportunity to present itself.

I don't necessarily agree. It would only be a failure if he wastes the available money on losers. If he keeps the money available, there's still some possibilities in 2011 and 2012, especially since we'll also have Curry off the books. But, still, obviously this summer is the goal.

if he strikes out on bigname FA's this summer how is it not a failure? we could have hired a blind monkey to do nothing but sit on his hands for the past 2 years & been in the same position otherwise & still held onto our draft picks.

Do you really think that in real world you can ignore the rules of the game?
I think you intellegent enough to understand that to build anything in NBA, as in any other pro sport, GM must do things which are politically necessary, even if they make no sense parctically.
Walsh managed to minimize damage and reach his major goals at teh same time. What will Blind Monkey do?

no kidding, i understand a GM has to make certain moves with a larger plan in mind... the point is if those moves don't work out to attain the desired result, then it's a failure, especially when you give up future draft picks along the way... if you don't achieve your goal, how the hell can anyone paint it any other way?... it's a pretty basic concept.

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6/1/2010  10:53 PM
nixluva wrote:
TMS wrote:
Solace wrote:
TMS wrote:
TheGame wrote:Honestly, if Walsh strikes out with LBJ, Bosh, Wade, and Amare, we might start viewing the IT era alot better because the Walsh era would be a total disaster.

agreed... the entire gameplan he came in here with was to clear up cap space to lure bigname FA's to NYC in the summer of 2010... if he fails in that plan this summer it was a huge failure & a waste of 2 years where we did absolutely nothing to try & improve the team waiting for this opportunity to present itself.

I don't necessarily agree. It would only be a failure if he wastes the available money on losers. If he keeps the money available, there's still some possibilities in 2011 and 2012, especially since we'll also have Curry off the books. But, still, obviously this summer is the goal.

if he strikes out on bigname FA's this summer how is it not a failure? we could have hired a blind monkey to do nothing but sit on his hands for the past 2 years & been in the same position otherwise & still held onto our draft picks.

You can't look at it only one way. The idea is to be in the game and we are top players in this game all due to what DW did so far. We couldn't get a guy like Lebron to come here unless we can give him the very strong belief that this team can be better than what he can get anywhere else. That is something we can at least try to do with the ability to bring in a 2nd Max player. So if we fail to convince him that doesn't negate the need to be in position to seriously make that offer.

Now even if it's not Lebron there are other top FA's and I think there's still a good chance that we can land two of them. If we fail at that then we still have the cap space to use in the following year in addition to the Curry contract. There is absolutely no bad outcome except or spending the money on losing players, which I don't see DW doing. He's said that he won't do that an I believe him.

so basically in your mind, Donnie Walsh has already succeeded... that's pretty much what you're saying, that it was worth giving up future picks & sucking for the past 2 years just to be in the position to offer a contract to bigname FA's this summer, regardless if we land any of them or not... correct me if i'm wrong but sounds a lot like that's what you're saying here.

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A look back at the Isiah Thomas Era

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