if Isiah lets chaney finish the year it it would be a huge problem because it would problably mean that Isiah will coach next year and there is no way he can be both GM and coach of the knicks.

Isiah wont take over til he know's he can win with the team.

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 01/11/2004 15:25:54]

Good post, Nalod. Saw the same thing, and also was disappointed. Can't be raising the pressure, and then lowering it. Figured Zeke wanted to find out something about the guys, so was trying to raise the pressure on purpose.

I have noticed that everything that had come out of Isiah's mouth initially has turned up opposite.

What business do you know of that would take on 150mm in salaries and not expect a huge financial windfall--i.e it terms of basketball major playoff run and selling out every game?

When you have a team full of older players making mega millions and you go out and get a PG who will be 27 in a month, has had two operations on his left ankle and hasnt EVEN started his new contract of 20 mm per year and take on his 32 year old buddy who only is taking in 50 mm over the next 3--how the heck can you now say you are just starting a rebuilding job?

What you see is what you get. If this team doesnt win this year--when will it win? How many years does H2O have left on his 33 year old bones that are eroding? 31 YO KT? 42 YO Deke? 32 year old Penny? 28 year old Van Horn? To me, objectively I only see a very small timeframe with this team and I dont see how we are going to find high quality replacements. I said this destroyed the franchise for a minimum of 5 and upwards of 10 because somehwre a REAL rebuild will become necessary.
To many people heard the name Marbury and think it's Duncan Bird or Magic and it's not. We really couldve went in a more thurough direction.

Figure out a style of play. Find a coach who will implement that style and players who can execute it.

I will always believe this is a big mans game. You need two anchor players to win or atleast 1 very good one. KT has nice games here and there and Deke sure does protect the basket BUT what will these guys be in 3 years? gone???????

this trade made no sense. we shouldve stayed with FW worked hard with Lampe and made an effort to get an athletic anchor player in the draft along with perimeter speed and skill.

Ok Marbury is 20-8 but if FW is 13-7 and we used our assets in various ways and built the core of a team that had players mostly of the same age that developed together--isnt that the most sensible way to go?

I dont know, but we fUp.

Posted by playa2:

Briggs , you tell it like it is man period!

What he said is based on incomplete facts. No matter what he thinks, Isiah may have a plan, and he deserves more than three weeks to be able to execute that plan.

Despite this poster's scouting report on Lampe and Marbury, Isiah's basketball judgment is more in demand than his is. It's easy to knock everything from a distance, but those assessments are worthless.

Isiah was dealt a horrible hand: an aging team with horredous salary cap problems. Until he proves he can't do the job, I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.

what are incomplete facts? we have huge lengthy finanical commitments to all of our starters except Deke if Isiah fullfills his promise to KT.

so this is the team and there is very little you can do to change it

Could we trade for a Fizer or Rodney white---sure I think we can with what we have left. I think we can. but then who are you sitting? which max player sits? we sure could use a fizer to play back up PF but with all of this cash spent on penny it almost becomes irrelevant to go afer White, even though I believe he is an untapped talent at 23

were not getting guys like wilcox gooden etc...... becasue that is out of our range now. dont even mention Raweed because that isnt happening. but fizer nd white is what i would do. i dont like darius miles even though he is young. he so patently flawed fundamentally and cant play 2 guard and PF like white can white can play 2-3-4 and fizer who is primarily 4 can also play 3. He can be a big nasty player if given another chance. we need to find hidden gems at low cost. that is the way to improve.

BRIGGS has got it right. this team is headed for years and years of high-paid mediocrity AT BEST. it is more likely that the knicks will continue to play sub-500 ball and continue to be the laughingstocks of the nba until dolan sells and somebody blows this mutha.

Good post Rich. Thank god someone has the stamina to deal with these guys.

Nalod , you need not tell me anything about me discrediting anyone son . These guys have on blinders so they could care less what you say about the Zeke the "MESSIAH" giving up too much.