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djsunyc
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5/21/2010  4:20 PM
Will Amare Stoudemire re-sign with the Suns this summer? That's the question I posed Thursday to a source close to Stoudemire.

Stoudemire, you may remember, had his bags packed for weeks, expecting to be traded by the Suns near the February trade deadline. When potential trades fell apart at the deadline, Amare was furious and vowed to bolt Phoenix this summer when he could become an unrestricted free agent, a source close to the process told ESPN.com

Later that evening Amare, his agent, Happy Walters, Suns owner Robert Sarver and GM Steve Kerr sat down to dinner to try to hash things out.

The Suns must have had said something right. Stoudemire and the team got on a roll, the team's chemistry never looked better, and now Phoenix is playing the Lakers in the Western Conference finals.

Given how successful the team has been lately, could Amare re-sign with the Suns?

“I don't think it's going to happen," a source close to Stoudemire told ESPN. "Amare feels like the organization disrespected him. Amare loves his teammates and has really enjoyed playing for the team these last few months, but he's reluctant to commit to Phoenix long-term."

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5/21/2010  5:03 PM
Judging by his performance in this series, it looks like he's already left.
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5/21/2010  5:04 PM
as long as its not here...
GO TEAM VENTURE!!!!!
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5/21/2010  5:09 PM
If we get LBJ/Bosh, then Amare goes to Miami to team up with Wade.
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5/21/2010  5:37 PM
Those who have seen more of Bosh and Amare than I; who is a better defensive player? Who is a better part time center?
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5/21/2010  5:50 PM
K22 wrote:Judging by his performance in this series, it looks like he's already left.

damn, bro. it's definitely true, but you just unleashed right there.

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5/21/2010  5:51 PM
Silverfuel wrote:Those who have seen more of Bosh and Amare than I; who is a better defensive player? Who is a better part time center?

bosh, bosh, bosh, bosh.

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5/21/2010  11:45 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
Silverfuel wrote:Those who have seen more of Bosh and Amare than I; who is a better defensive player? Who is a better part time center?

bosh, bosh, bosh, bosh.

Bosh is the better player but Amare maybe a better fit with D'Antoni. I wouldn't discount that if Amare is signed.
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5/21/2010  11:55 PM
I think both Bosh and Amare would thrive in MDA's system. I do feel Bosh is the more attentive defender, but how much more so is hard to determine. Amare is really a bad defender tho. He talked all this crap but look at how he's played when the chips are down. They absolutely need him to stiffen his D just like they did all these years in the past.
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5/22/2010  12:06 AM
nixluva wrote:I think both Bosh and Amare would thrive in MDA's system. I do feel Bosh is the more attentive defender, but how much more so is hard to determine. Amare is really a bad defender tho. He talked all this crap but look at how he's played when the chips are down. They absolutely need him to stiffen his D just like they did all these years in the past.

Yeah. Bosh's defense has been on a fast decline in recent years for whatever reason. Way too many guys float to the rim on him now. That's why you can do those crazy Lee/Bosh comparisons. Both should be better defenders than what they are because of their athleticism. Amare's first year he was active in the post. Bosh first couple of years he was the same.

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5/24/2010  4:28 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
Silverfuel wrote:Those who have seen more of Bosh and Amare than I; who is a better defensive player? Who is a better part time center?

bosh, bosh, bosh, bosh.

Bosh is the better player but Amare maybe a better fit with D'Antoni. I wouldn't discount that if Amare is signed.

personally i think at their best Amare is easily the better player, but Bosh is more consistent (motivationally speaking) & doesn't come with as many health issues & history of breaking down.

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5/24/2010  4:44 PM
i'll take bosh over amar'e everyday of the week and twice on sunday.
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5/24/2010  5:03 PM
I will take Bosh all day every day. He rebounds the ball and can carry a team to 40 wins which no a lot of players can do without another All-Star. He looked unstoppable in the All-Star game. Amare has a bad attitude. He feels disrespected? These guys are a ****ing joke. Don't get 3 rbs in a conference final and open your mouth. He is a chump at heart and will get injured again.
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5/24/2010  5:55 PM
crzymdups wrote:i'll take bosh over amar'e everyday of the week and twice on sunday.

And luckily we have plenty of Sunday games.

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5/25/2010  2:10 AM
you can rag on Amare all you like but the fact remains he's been to the Conference Finals multiple times in a much tougher conference & at times has looked unstoppable in postseason play... Bosh for all his talent has not been able to vault his team to that level as of yet... yes, Amare has Nash, which counts for an awful lot, but Bosh has not been without talent on the Raptors' squad & plays in a much weaker conference... i think it's fair to say Amare is the better player when they're both playing at peak levels, but he does carry more baggage in terms of durability & attitude.
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5/25/2010  2:56 AM
TMS wrote:you can rag on Amare all you like but the fact remains he's been to the Conference Finals multiple times in a much tougher conference & at times has looked unstoppable in postseason play... Bosh for all his talent has not been able to vault his team to that level as of yet... yes, Amare has Nash, which counts for an awful lot, but Bosh has not been without talent on the Raptors' squad & plays in a much weaker conference... i think it's fair to say Amare is the better player when they're both playing at peak levels, but he does carry more baggage in terms of durability & attitude.

thats what concerns me... we just spent 2 years dealing with the last of the cats who meet this or worse. dont want to go back. talent that doesnt help us win + brings bags full of nasty poop can go to other teams.

GO TEAM VENTURE!!!!!
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5/25/2010  3:02 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/25/2010  3:03 AM
sidsanders wrote:
TMS wrote:you can rag on Amare all you like but the fact remains he's been to the Conference Finals multiple times in a much tougher conference & at times has looked unstoppable in postseason play... Bosh for all his talent has not been able to vault his team to that level as of yet... yes, Amare has Nash, which counts for an awful lot, but Bosh has not been without talent on the Raptors' squad & plays in a much weaker conference... i think it's fair to say Amare is the better player when they're both playing at peak levels, but he does carry more baggage in terms of durability & attitude.

thats what concerns me... we just spent 2 years dealing with the last of the cats who meet this or worse. dont want to go back. talent that doesnt help us win + brings bags full of nasty poop can go to other teams.

i don't think u can say Amare qualifies as talent that won't help you win... u can make a case for the guys that have come through NY the past several years but Amare is in a different class IMO... the only issues i have with him are his durability & his lack of defense really... compared to the knuckleheaded shenanigans of some of the other characters we've had here over the past several seasons, i think Amare would look like a saint in comparison... if u can bring in a defensive minded frontcourt partner to tandem w/him i'd have no problem w/him being 1 of our offseason signings (same with Chris Bosh, & to a lesser extent, D Lee)

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5/25/2010  3:48 AM
TMS wrote:
sidsanders wrote:
TMS wrote:you can rag on Amare all you like but the fact remains he's been to the Conference Finals multiple times in a much tougher conference & at times has looked unstoppable in postseason play... Bosh for all his talent has not been able to vault his team to that level as of yet... yes, Amare has Nash, which counts for an awful lot, but Bosh has not been without talent on the Raptors' squad & plays in a much weaker conference... i think it's fair to say Amare is the better player when they're both playing at peak levels, but he does carry more baggage in terms of durability & attitude.

thats what concerns me... we just spent 2 years dealing with the last of the cats who meet this or worse. dont want to go back. talent that doesnt help us win + brings bags full of nasty poop can go to other teams.

i don't think u can say Amare qualifies as talent that won't help you win... u can make a case for the guys that have come through NY the past several years but Amare is in a different class IMO... the only issues i have with him are his durability & his lack of defense really... compared to the knuckleheaded shenanigans of some of the other characters we've had here over the past several seasons, i think Amare would look like a saint in comparison... if u can bring in a defensive minded frontcourt partner to tandem w/him i'd have no problem w/him being 1 of our offseason signings (same with Chris Bosh, & to a lesser extent, D Lee)

mike is gonna be here, can he deal with amare that has talked poop about his former coach? he couldnt deal with nate... i dont see that going so well

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5/25/2010  7:33 AM
TMS wrote:you can rag on Amare all you like but the fact remains he's been to the Conference Finals multiple times in a much tougher conference & at times has looked unstoppable in postseason play... Bosh for all his talent has not been able to vault his team to that level as of yet... yes, Amare has Nash, which counts for an awful lot, but Bosh has not been without talent on the Raptors' squad & plays in a much weaker conference... i think it's fair to say Amare is the better player when they're both playing at peak levels, but he does carry more baggage in terms of durability & attitude.


You nailed it here. Totally agree. Amare had a couple of games in the playoffs where dominated Tim Duncan on the offensive end when Tim was at his MVP peak. But as you say, he's seems to drift at times and doesn't bring it on a daily basis. Not to mention the injury concerns

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5/25/2010  10:24 AM
TMS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
Silverfuel wrote:Those who have seen more of Bosh and Amare than I; who is a better defensive player? Who is a better part time center?

bosh, bosh, bosh, bosh.

Bosh is the better player but Amare maybe a better fit with D'Antoni. I wouldn't discount that if Amare is signed.

personally i think at their best Amare is easily the better player, but Bosh is more consistent (motivationally speaking) & doesn't come with as many health issues & history of breaking down.

which Amare is that??? Not trying to be argumentative but I haven't seen a dominant Amare since before his last surgery. I think guys are going off of the impression he left on us coming into the league; taking it to bigs and dunking on guys. That Amare has been mia for years.

Offensively (Yeah I will get killed for this), Lee has more tools than he does. The guy is just as bad a defender as Lee but he gets more respect and is valued more. I don't get it.

Lee: Better shooting %
Lee: Better Jump shot
Lee: Better Passer
Lee/Amare Both Terrible defenders
Lee: better rebounder
Lee: better teammate

What does Amare do better than Lee. Maybe throw down a more thunderous dunk is all I see.

Put lee next to Nash and Lee will look elite

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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