BRIGGS wrote:and today. Quite frankly they had very little competition---the market the Knicks face is flooded.
I say this because so may teams not only haev cap space but have the secondary ability to S+T. We cannot DISCOUNT teams with NO cap space yet great asset to do S+T with great existing players still on the roster. Because the Knicks have very little to offer in S+T I think it not only mitigates the secondary cap but actually puts us lower than several teams.

I don't see how the Cav's would have any part in helping a team to acquire Lebron. The Cav's have said that they won't do that. I don't see what would make them change their minds on that. It would be better to suck and get a high draft pick and start over than to take another teams LESS talented players only to be mediocre and stay in limbo.

BRIGGS wrote:and today. Quite frankly they had very little competition---the market the Knicks face is flooded.
I say this because so may teams not only haev cap space but have the secondary ability to S+T. We cannot DISCOUNT teams with NO cap space yet great asset to do S+T with great existing players still on the roster. Because the Knicks have very little to offer in S+T I think it not only mitigates the secondary cap but actually puts us lower than several teams.

chicago also had max space for at least one, if not more than one that year.

the knicks have a lot to offer in terms of market, exposure, coach and a chance to rebuild a great franchise and i think you need to stop your doom and gloom scenarios until something actually happens or doesn't happen.

the difference between this off-season and any other the knicks have had since 1996 is that if a player wants to come here, he can just come here.

i don't think the 6th year is going to be as much of a sticking point as you suggest. if that extra year is so important - why did bron, wade and bosh all take shorter deals so they could explore free agency after three years? all signed with their teams in 2006. they could have signed 7yr extensions. they signed 4-year extensions that kicked in for the 07-08 season with an opt out after three years - all of them are opting out early.

answer me this briggs - if the extra year is so important, why did those guys leave many extra years on the table before? if bron signs a contract here 5yrs with an opt out after 3, he can sign an extension again at age 28.

i don't think the extra year is as important as you think.

In the end the teams that can do a sign n trade must have a willing partner in Cleveland. You can't just assume that they want the players that Chicago or NJ etc are giving up. None of them will equal Lebron and the Pick they get will be USELESS!!! What kind of pick are you gonna get from the team that gets Lebron? The Cavs aren't stupid. Why help Lebron get more money and end up taking back some guys who will help you to be mediocre so you end up with bad draft picks and stay in limbo.

Lebrons not coming here! hE'S BETTER OFF WITH MIAMI

WOODMANnYk wrote:Why would Lebron wanna come to Knicks. They're sad of an organization. 10 yrs and counting of losing and now you have a coach thats dont preach defense.

Lebrons not coming here! hE'S BETTER OFF WITH MIAMI

Good'ol negativity still being preached. Nice.

knicks1248 wrote:We have curry's expiring contract and the 2011 Fa class is not weak at all..don't discredit curry's value just because he hasn't played much...He may just turn into a monster in this contract year..

as in a monster trade? you dont mean playing wise do you?

Childs2Dudley wrote:

WOODMANnYk wrote:Why would Lebron wanna come to Knicks. They're sad of an organization. 10 yrs and counting of losing and now you have a coach thats dont preach defense.

Lebrons not coming here! hE'S BETTER OFF WITH MIAMI

Good'ol negativity still being preached. Nice.

Nope it's not negativity. It Dolanland! he killed the team for the last 10yrs ,now you expect for him to change knowing the team is now built to win.. it will take another 5 yrs. let say lebron , wade dont come, dolan will pressure walsch to get 2 players somehow.

nixluva wrote:

WOODMANnYk wrote:Why would Lebron wanna come to Knicks. They're sad of an organization. 10 yrs and counting of losing and now you have a coach thats dont preach defense.

Lebrons not coming here! hE'S BETTER OFF WITH MIAMI

The team won't be "sad" anymore if he comes here along with Bosh. How has the defense intensive team in Cleveland worked out for him? What about the defense intense Heat for Wade? There's more to the game than just being able to defend. At some point you've got to be able to score too and that is where we shine more so than the lackluster easy to defend clearout offenses that DWade and Lebron have played in.

Sure you have to be strong on D and I fully expect that the Knicks will put together a group that will be solid on D. In fact much more so than we've seen in years. That starts with great two way players and a more balanced roster. DW is gonna be able to do that now that he is clear to bring in a whole new group. Lebron will see that DW has built strong defensive teams in the past and plans to do so here too. Then we have a superior offensive attack than anything he's had in Cleveland. You then add all of the other great things about coming here and I think it's very compelling.

The truth is that we can add two Maxes or we can add Lebron plus a bunch of really good talent and craft a very complete team. That along with the Curry contract will allow us to continue to add to the team. This will be a very strong option for FA's.

If thats the case, he'll go to miami or chic, not knicks. they'll have a coach that will stress defense. knicks dont even have that...

You still need to play defense to win championships. Mike dantoni's system will never work for a championship bound team. If he gets star player in his system, they 'll win 55 to 60 games but when it comes to playoffs, good defensive teams will be able to find his achilles heel, read the offensive schemes and shut it down.. ex. phoenix: nash, stoudimaire,marion, diaw, raga bell, they had a nice team but never even made it to the finals.. never beat the spurs.. regards, woodman

WOODMANnYk wrote:Why would Lebron wanna come to Knicks. They're sad of an organization. 10 yrs and counting of losing and now you have a coach thats dont preach defense.

Lebrons not coming here! hE'S BETTER OFF WITH MIAMI

Why would LeBron James go to Chicago? They have done nothing the last 12 years besides getting lucky and drafting Derrick Rose (who is not Chris Paul or Deron Williams btw). They have a toxic management who do their fighting internally and being super cheap too. And it's still Michael Jordan's town. Why would LeBron go to Miami? Pat Riley has wasted the last 4 years of Dwyane Wade's career by failing to surround him with a proper supporting cast. Trades for Shawn Marion, Jermaine O'Neal and drafting Michael Beasley have not helped.

My point is - although New York may not be the perfect place to play, other teams also have their issues too.