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Olbrannon
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Must be 7' tall, able to run the floor and knock down an open jump shot from 20' in
must be able to finish with either hand. Work the pick and roll, finish and flush.
Starting salary poor but potential to make -huge- paydays exists.

The applicants-

(Being realistic here I'm leaving out anyone who is currently projected 15 or higher)

Last two numbers are draftexpress' 'top 100 ranking' and the range expected to go.
(reference: http://www.draftexpress.com/2010-draft-prospect-agent-list.php)

Since we need so much I expect the Knicks to buy a late first round pick much like last year.
If not players like Zoubek, Ogilvie and Jordan may well be available for a second rounder or as
an undrafted free agent. Gentlemen your choices and comments.

*all right I'm bored to tears and contemplating Spartacus re-runs at this point or some NWN playerworld*

Solomon Alabi Florida St Sophomore 21 USA 7'1 C 17 12 to 30
Hassan Whiteside Marshall Freshman 20 USA 7'0 C 18 10 to 30
Miroslav Raduljica FMP Zeleznik Int'l 1988 22 Serbia 7'0 C 24 20 to 45
Brian Zoubek Duke Senior 22 USA 7'1 C 35 25 to undrafted
Artsiom Parakhouski Radford Senior 22 USA 6'11 C 39 25 to 60
Jerome Jordan Tulsa Senior 23 USA 7'0 C 52 31 to undrafted
Andrew Ogilvy Vanderbilt Junior 21 Australia 7'0 C 58 31 to undrafted
Tibor Pleiss Brose Baskets Int'l 1989 20 Germany 7'0 C 62 40 to undrafted
Boban Marjanovic Hemofarm Int'l 1988 21 Serbia 7'3 C 100 50 to undrafted
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arkrud
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5/15/2010  9:30 PM
Who are this people?
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Olbrannon
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5/15/2010  9:33 PM
arkrud wrote:Who are this people?

http://www.draftexpress.com/2010-draft-prospect-agent-list.php

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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5/16/2010  1:04 AM
I posted a blurb to postingandtoasting about Solomon Alabi
the link is here

Briggs is obviously offensive j/k Jerome Jordan seems like the other side of the coin from Alabi
and Briggs is advocating him from what I can tell. Seems to me defense is the need.

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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5/16/2010  3:03 AM
WANTED: players that don't suck

This team is so flawed with so many incomplete players, a good place to start is with solid overall players. If the team can get a 6'6" SG with a solid wingspan, solid lateral movement, and an efficient FG% without giving up assets, it's a need, and you take him

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Olbrannon
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5/16/2010  4:07 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:WANTED: players that don't suck

This team is so flawed with so many incomplete players, a good place to start is with solid overall players. If the team can get a 6'6" SG with a solid wingspan, solid lateral movement, and an efficient FG% without giving up assets, it's a need, and you take him

Let me guess. Lance Stephenson? Though it sounds as if you just described Sylvan Landesburg. Players with low suck potential at pick 38 or 39? Or just make an effort to bring back Marcus Landry and Bill Walker?

Though the best case for you would be Evan Turner I doubt NYK can pull that off.

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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5/16/2010  5:38 AM
Olbrannon wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:WANTED: players that don't suck

This team is so flawed with so many incomplete players, a good place to start is with solid overall players. If the team can get a 6'6" SG with a solid wingspan, solid lateral movement, and an efficient FG% without giving up assets, it's a need, and you take him

Let me guess. Lance Stephenson? Though it sounds as if you just described Sylvan Landesburg. Players with low suck potential at pick 38 or 39? Or just make an effort to bring back Marcus Landry and Bill Walker?

Though the best case for you would be Evan Turner I doubt NYK can pull that off.

while a defensive presence in the low post is needed, there are so many needs that picking a player by need would be too shortsighted. Unfortunately the NBA draft is before free agency, but this team needs as many assets as possible. The best bet is likely to acquire a big by trade

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5/16/2010  5:40 AM
Tibor Pleiss is a nice dark horse in the draft and I would say he still is 2-3 years away from contributing on the NBA level (so in our case he prob. is not a got fit) but he brings a nice skill set on the table, blocking shots, rebounding and having a good nice touch out th 15 feet and a little beyond.
He also showed nice development in the past year!
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5/16/2010  10:19 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/16/2010  10:22 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
Olbrannon wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:WANTED: players that don't suck

This team is so flawed with so many incomplete players, a good place to start is with solid overall players. If the team can get a 6'6" SG with a solid wingspan, solid lateral movement, and an efficient FG% without giving up assets, it's a need, and you take him

Let me guess. Lance Stephenson? Though it sounds as if you just described Sylvan Landesburg. Players with low suck potential at pick 38 or 39? Or just make an effort to bring back Marcus Landry and Bill Walker?

Though the best case for you would be Evan Turner I doubt NYK can pull that off.

while a defensive presence in the low post is needed, there are so many needs that picking a player by need would be too shortsighted. Unfortunately the NBA draft is before free agency, but this team needs as many assets as possible. The best bet is likely to acquire a big by trade

I don't really see much of an option that way. The good ones are signed and the ones left on the market are overpriced. Shall we continue trhen the NY way? to overpay for underachievers and continue the trend of the last 20 years? I'd prefer to waste 3 mill on a low first and take a chance on a big. You still need another thru free agency as well add the 2 second rounders and you have what 7-8? Still need what 12?

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
Olbrannon
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5/16/2010  10:40 AM
For instance the Thunder have picks at 21 and 26 and a very young roster. Could be a chance to buy a pick.
Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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5/16/2010  11:14 AM
Olbrannon wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Olbrannon wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:WANTED: players that don't suck

This team is so flawed with so many incomplete players, a good place to start is with solid overall players. If the team can get a 6'6" SG with a solid wingspan, solid lateral movement, and an efficient FG% without giving up assets, it's a need, and you take him

Let me guess. Lance Stephenson? Though it sounds as if you just described Sylvan Landesburg. Players with low suck potential at pick 38 or 39? Or just make an effort to bring back Marcus Landry and Bill Walker?

Though the best case for you would be Evan Turner I doubt NYK can pull that off.

while a defensive presence in the low post is needed, there are so many needs that picking a player by need would be too shortsighted. Unfortunately the NBA draft is before free agency, but this team needs as many assets as possible. The best bet is likely to acquire a big by trade

I don't really see much of an option that way. The good ones are signed and the ones left on the market are overpriced. Shall we continue trhen the NY way? to overpay for underachievers and continue the trend of the last 20 years? I'd prefer to waste 3 mill on a low first and take a chance on a big. You still need another thru free agency as well add the 2 second rounders and you have what 7-8? Still need what 12?

I'm unsure where I suggested that as an option.

Unless the Knicks can buy a first and package the second rounders with that pick for someone like Whiteside, I'd just assume draft the BPA and take a wait-and-see approach with the bigs. Hope for an in season acquisition a la Portland's trade for Camby

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5/16/2010  11:52 AM
Olbrannon wrote:I posted a blurb to postingandtoasting about Solomon Alabi
the link is here

Briggs is obviously offensive j/k Jerome Jordan seems like the other side of the coin from Alabi
and Briggs is advocating him from what I can tell. Seems to me defense is the need.

Nice post. I love reading stuff like that and it would be exciting to get a guy that has a shot being an impact player. I am not sure how much buying a first round pick would impact the Knicks cap situation so I do not know if it is even an option. I also don't know how a guy like this would fit with D'Antoni. The Knicks had a 'raw' big man that they drafted with the 8th pick last year and he didn't see the court until the Houston trade.
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Olbrannon
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5/16/2010  1:19 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
Olbrannon wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Olbrannon wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:WANTED: players that don't suck

This team is so flawed with so many incomplete players, a good place to start is with solid overall players. If the team can get a 6'6" SG with a solid wingspan, solid lateral movement, and an efficient FG% without giving up assets, it's a need, and you take him

Let me guess. Lance Stephenson? Though it sounds as if you just described Sylvan Landesburg. Players with low suck potential at pick 38 or 39? Or just make an effort to bring back Marcus Landry and Bill Walker?

Though the best case for you would be Evan Turner I doubt NYK can pull that off.

while a defensive presence in the low post is needed, there are so many needs that picking a player by need would be too shortsighted. Unfortunately the NBA draft is before free agency, but this team needs as many assets as possible. The best bet is likely to acquire a big by trade

I don't really see much of an option that way. The good ones are signed and the ones left on the market are overpriced. Shall we continue trhen the NY way? to overpay for underachievers and continue the trend of the last 20 years? I'd prefer to waste 3 mill on a low first and take a chance on a big. You still need another thru free agency as well add the 2 second rounders and you have what 7-8? Still need what 12?

I'm unsure where I suggested that as an option.

Unless the Knicks can buy a first and package the second rounders with that pick for someone like Whiteside, I'd just assume draft the BPA and take a wait-and-see approach with the bigs. Hope for an in season acquisition a la Portland's trade for Camby

I do believe Zoubek and Ogilvie could be available at the least with the 38 or 39 perhaps Varnardo...but with no jumpshot on a D'Antoni squad the latter would be wasted I think.

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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5/16/2010  9:32 PM
Whiteside will not fall to a late 1st round
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5/16/2010  10:12 PM
in the range we actually have picks, pick 38/39, i like jerome jordan and jarvis varnado.
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5/16/2010  11:23 PM
What, how did Big Snacks not make the list?
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5/16/2010  11:25 PM
Moonangie wrote:What, how did Big Snacks not make the list?

i just knew there'd be one enlightened soul out there somewhere.

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5/16/2010  11:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/16/2010  11:56 PM

Larry Sanders will protect the rim

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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5/17/2010  7:20 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:

Larry Sanders will protect the rim

Larry Sanders PF 21 years old, 6' 9" 205lbs. VCU

His legs are too short

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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5/17/2010  8:24 AM
oh, but that wingspan...
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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5/17/2010  9:16 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/17/2010  9:17 AM
Just for you JW some wingspan to salivate after-(source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Official-Portsmouth-Measurements-Released-3440/

-Hamady N’Diaye’s measurements surely won’t hurt him, coming out 6-10 ½ without shoes with a gigantic 7-6 wingspan (top 25 in our database) and a 9-3 standing reach. That, combined with his excellent motor, strong athletic ability and intriguing shot-blocking instincts should get him plenty of looks from NBA teams throughout the draft process, and could easily help him win an NBA roster spot when it’s all said and done.

Mikhail Torrance has fantastic size for a point guard, coming out at 6-4 without shoes with a near 6-7 wingspan. His measurements are nearly identical to Rodney Stuckey and are slightly superior to O.J. Mayo and Jrue Holiday.

Another player who will be helped by his impressive measurements is Tulsa’s Ben Uzoh—at 6-2 ¾ without shoes with a 6-9 wingspan, which is the largest of any of the point guard prospects at the camp. Combine that with his fantastic leaping ability and strong overall athletic ability and you have a very impressive prospect from a physical standpoint. Uzoh still has plenty of wrinkles to iron out in his game, but he’s definitely someone NBA teams will be keeping close tabs on. His measurements are similar to that of Antonio Daniels, just better.

If a stat existed for “wingspan to size ratio,” the leader from this Portsmouth class would surely be Vermont’s Marqus Blakely. Measuring a shade under 6-5 without shoes, Blakely possesses a freakish 7-1 wingspan, which when combined with his NCAA dunk-contest winning athleticism, helps explain why he was such an awesome rebounder, shot-blocker and ball-thief in college. For comparison’s sake, Blakely’s arms are just as long or longer than players like Joakim Noah, Al Horford, Drew Gooden and Charlie Villanueva. While his offense clearly has a long ways to go, his physical attributes, intensity level, versatility and above average basketball IQ (he also averaged nearly 4 assists per game) makes him someone to keep an eye on for the future, possibly as a Luc Richard Mbah a Moute type prospect.

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
Wanted- Defender of the rim.

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