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5/14/2010  1:37 PM
I dont get why this isn't being talked about more, to me it was so obvious.

Lebron James and his "Team" of advisors had a plan, and they executed it. The plan was to form a justifiable escape route out of Cleveland. A way to get out of Cleveland without everyone killing him for "not caring about winning". A way for him to say "My team just wasn't good enough in Cleveland, I had to go elsewhere where i felt i had a better chance to win"

They pulled it off.

THE PLAN:

Force your team to win the game (which they can't) But do just enough to make it look like its not TOO obvious your throwing the game, but when momentum is on the line. Throw it.

Executed PERFECTLY. Watch the tape.

Game 5 - Lebron comes out dishing, not attacking at ALL... But they were at home so his teammates were actually getting it going. His only option was to get off the ball, totally uninvolved, so that his team would not be able to surge off him and make the game too close. What does he do? Watch Lebron in game 5, he spent more time STANDING in the corner away from the action than I've ever seen him spend in a game. many NBA experts have already said the same thing, not only was he STANDING AROUND off the ball more than ever (what does an ELBOW injury have to do with that?) but when he DID get the ball, he would swing it to a sometimes completely surprised teammate who was in no better position to create a shot than Lebron was when it left his hands. This is not Injury, this is more than that. Injury, your taking the shots, but they just aren t falling. By the way did you notice in game 5 when he DID take shots they were Vince Carter Esc... Fading back for no reason (which he never does) and missing by a foot.

THE PLAN: Ok everyone is suspecting you. What do you do? Make sure you stuff the stats so that its not too obvious, but when it COUNTS... Make sure Boston gets the momentum play.

EXECUTED PERFECTLY

Game 6 - Lebron comes out with a few dunks to quickly quell the notion that something is "up"... ok.. he's gunna try tonight.. cool. Lebron starts driving to the basket in the first half to show he's being aggressive.. But what happens on 50% of the drives? He gets tied up, stripped, etc. This almost NEVER happens to Lebron. He was fumbling the ball so much on drives, what does that have to do with an Elbow? Sure credit the Celtics D... But Lebron was CLEARLY not going as hard as he usually does to the hole, he was simply leaving the ball out there for people to strip. 2nd half boston starts to pull away. Every time the Cavs had an important possession, Lebron would throw the ball away. One play in particular where he threw a CROSSCOURT pass to Anthony Parker coming off a screen CLEARLY coming out to the top of the court, but Lebron threw the pass to the corner. There was NO WAY Parker would have gone to that corner, That was the most clear example of throwing the game of the night. That was not a turnover on accident, Watch the tape I don't care what anyone says.

Ok but its getting obvious again... Lebron is fading, its time to show a little fight... What does he do? Come down 2 straight possessions and hit 2 straight 3s to pull his team back. That elbow sure did look bad on those perfect shots! Riiiight.
NOW if you notice Lebrons body language after those shots was TOTALLY bizarre. What do you expect from Lebron after plays like that? Firing up his teammates? "LETS GO!" etc, excited, "we can do it!" right? No. Not at all. ACtually Lebron looked Nervous as FUCK... his hands were damn near shaking, like he was thinking "damn that might have been too much, we are really close now" watch the tape. What do you do next time down the court? Turn it over. Cuz if you really want to WIN you got to make the next play, or at least attempt to.. But if you turn it over and Boston scores, the momentum and game QUICKLY shifts back to Boston.

Mission Accomplished.

Also did Lebron look like he was upset to any of you last night? Not to me, not at all. He SPOKE the words he was supposed to speak, but there was no feeling behind them. Also interesting that before his press conference, he called for his "Team" of advisors to meet with him in a closed off locker room. I wonder why? Prolly feeling some nerves after what he just did, and needed some advice on how to approach the media, what to say etc.

The PLAN is to become a billionaire, and THE PLAN is to go to NEw York to do it.

Anyone questioning Lebron's ability to win playoff games after these performances is a damn fool. If he wanted to, he could have single handedly dismantled the Celtics in both these games. But he has a different agenda, he wants to win.. but he wants to do it on the BIG STAGE. He knew winning a title in Cleveland this year would not allow him to leave, that is why he wanted to win one SO BADLY last year. He could still have won a Chip for his city and justified leaving after loosing this year. Remember how MAD he was after the game last year???? He didn't even shake Oralndo's players hands... That's the type of competitor Lebron is, think about it folks.. It's so obvious it's not even funny.

Welcome to New York Lebron.

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5/14/2010  1:49 PM
proof Watch for your self
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5/14/2010  1:50 PM
if that's true, is that the guy you want bigging up your squad or have y'all spent too much time on your knees to get up at this point?
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5/14/2010  1:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/14/2010  1:58 PM
i don't think it was a conspiracy at all. the celtics defense shut him down and his elbow had to be hurting. the jumpers consistently being short speak to an injury.

the nine turnovers don't speak to a guy giving up - they speak to a guy trying too hard to force things.

he had no help and the celtics have the best defense in the NBA by any metric, as well as the best defensive coach (meaning their assistant Thibodeau) and had a herculean series from Rajon Rondo and a return to form for Kevin Garnett.

Can we please stop acting like Lebron is responsible for all this? He's responsible for Jamison shooting 2-10? He's responsible for Rondo going for 29/18/15?

Come on. This is ridiculous. The dude lost. And he's too proud to admit he was hurt and we should all look with open eyes at the crappy teammates he has. In the regular season, teams can't get ready for LeBron's blitzing the hoop - in a 7 game series, the best defense DID get ready. They loaded up on him and forced him to shoot jumpers. He didn't have the jumper because of his elbow.

This conspiracy crap is outrageous.

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5/14/2010  1:52 PM
uummmm...if you've seen through it, it wasn't really perfectly executed, was it?
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5/14/2010  1:53 PM
How do you throw away a game having 27 points, 18 rebounds, 10 assists, 3 steals and shooting the ball 21 times? LeBron James didn't throw any game. He was hurt (shoulder) and his teammates couldn't help him enough.
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5/14/2010  1:54 PM
iSergio wrote:How do you throw away a game having 27 points, 18 rebounds, 10 assists, 3 steals and shooting the ball 21 times? LeBron James didn't throw any game. He was hurt (shoulder) and his teammates couldn't help him enough.

did u read the post? i just explained how lol

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5/14/2010  1:55 PM
markvmc wrote:uummmm...if you've seen through it, it wasn't really perfectly executed, was it?

yes it was cuz i bet 90% of the replies will call me full of ****... which is what matters

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5/14/2010  2:01 PM
yeah, duke you are full of shyt. He played soft as hell out there, but you're trying to say he actually threw the games? Get real, doggie.
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5/14/2010  2:04 PM
Elite wrote:
iSergio wrote:How do you throw away a game having 27 points, 18 rebounds, 10 assists, 3 steals and shooting the ball 21 times? LeBron James didn't throw any game. He was hurt (shoulder) and his teammates couldn't help him enough.

did u read the post? i just explained how lol

Of course I did and I don't agree with it. Maybe LeBron James played "soft" because of his shoulder injury but no way did he try to lose.

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5/14/2010  2:06 PM
I think Lebron was mostly done in by this idea people have of him that he is the best, most unstoppable player in the game. He's probably the best (though I'd take Kobe in a Game 7 right now), but he's not unstoppable. He's not infallible.

Lebron himself may believe he's infallible, but that doesn't mean he is. He's got a huge ego but that doesn't mean he can't lose.

And it certainly doesn't mean when he loses that he does it on purpose. Did he throw the series against the Magic last year, too, to set up this series? Come on.

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5/14/2010  2:08 PM
crzymdups wrote:I think Lebron was mostly done in by this idea people have of him that he is the best, most unstoppable player in the game. He's probably the best (though I'd take Kobe in a Game 7 right now), but he's not unstoppable. He's not infallible.

Lebron himself may believe he's infallible, but that doesn't mean he is. He's got a huge ego but that doesn't mean he can't lose.

And it certainly doesn't mean when he loses that he does it on purpose. Did he throw the series against the Magic last year, too, to set up this series? Come on.

if you actually read my post you would see that i said he wanted more than ANYTHING to WIN the series vs orlando, which is why he got SO ANGRY after loosing to them last year. Cuz he coulda won the chip last year, and lost this year.. and still been justified in leaving

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5/14/2010  2:10 PM
Lebron played his ass off last night. They lost because Lebron destroyed the Celtics off the dribble and passed to open man after open man who changed jumper after jumper. Mo Williams with what? one shot made in the 2nd half?

Watching Cav after Cav clang those jumpers I had to laugh about all the people who were saying the Cavs had a better supporting cast than the Knicks. Douglas, Lee and Gallo would feast on jumpers all day, and Lee, Chandler and Gallo are excellent finishers. BigZ and Shaq have nothing, zilch left in the tank. Thanks to Brook Lopez they arent the slowest players in the NBA. Moon and West cant hit an open jumper and Verajo is so terrible offensively its not a discussion. He's defense is overrated also. He intimidates nobody. At least Ben Wallace, who was litterally half a player totally got in guy's heads and played game changing defense. AV just jumps around alot.

The Celtics played a very simple scheme. It was much like how the Knicks used to play MJ. Force him into jumpers, collapse on him when he drives and make other players beat you with jumpers. If the Cavs hit half the open shots they should have Lebron would have had 20 assists.

Lebron has a lot of BS that follows him around, with his King comments, his plans, etc. But once the game starts he's a player. I dont think he quit at the end of the game, I think he ran out of gas.

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5/14/2010  2:15 PM
He was far too passive out there and yeah, his supporting cast is absolute garbage. He needed to put that team on his back, but for the most part he was chilling as a spectator hovering around the three point line.

Celtics are just a better team. KG went down last year and they were beset by injuries during the regular season. Once they became reasonably healthy it was a wrap for Cleveland. This is not an upset by any mean.

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5/14/2010  2:36 PM
the celtics defense shut down the celtics, plain and simple. lebron was pissed that his teammates weren't helping him out and he let it effect his play. lebron did not "throw" the series, i'm sorry bro, but that just didn't happen.
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5/14/2010  2:40 PM
fishmike wrote:Verajo is so terrible offensively its not a discussion. He's defense is overrated also. He intimidates nobody.

Just ask Dwyane Wade.

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5/14/2010  3:00 PM
sebstar wrote:He was far too passive out there and yeah, his supporting cast is absolute garbage. He needed to put that team on his back, but for the most part he was chilling as a spectator hovering around the three point line.

Celtics are just a better team. KG went down last year and they were beset by injuries during the regular season. Once they became reasonably healthy it was a wrap for Cleveland. This is not an upset by any mean.


I thought he did put that team on his back. He simply needs better players around him. Obviously he sucked in game 5, but I'm talking about game 6. What more could he have done? He had 18 rebounds. He had 10 assists, and would have had double that if those guys could hit a freakin jumper.

Lebron is supposed to be the guy to challenge Kobe, but the Cavs are terrible. You start Fischer, Artest, Odom, Gasol and Bynum and you have a 48-50 win team. You start Mo Williams, West, Jamison, Verajo and Shaq and you have a 25 win team, and those guys are OLD.

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5/14/2010  3:00 PM
K22 wrote:
fishmike wrote:Verajo is so terrible offensively its not a discussion. He's defense is overrated also. He intimidates nobody.

Just ask Dwyane Wade.


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5/14/2010  3:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/14/2010  3:15 PM
Empty stats dont cut it when it comes to superstars. Superstars impose their will. They get buckets when the team needs it, stop the momentum of the other team, seize the moment, ext.

Far too often, when the Cavs were closing in, he'd turn the ball over or recede into the background and throw the ball to Mo Williams.

If you tryin to be the "King" then you gotta wear the crown.

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5/14/2010  3:13 PM
sebstar wrote:Empty stats dont cut it when it comes to superstars. Superstars impose their will. They get buckets when the team needs it, stop the momentum of the other team, seize the moment, ext.

Far too often, when the Cavs were closing in, he'd turn the ball over or recede into the background and throw the ball to Mo Williams.

If you tryin to be the "King" then you gotta wear the crown.


This is no different than Joe Johnson putting up stats while his team gets smacked.

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