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Vmart
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5/4/2010  11:34 PM
I'm watching the Lakers play Utah. There is no way the Knicks can compete at a high level with a small team. They have to get bigger at the Center and PF position. I can't see the Knicks being all that competitive with Lee playing center not against elite player like Howard, Gasol, Bynum or any other legit bigs. Lee can't handle those type of bigs and when playoffs roll around those are the only bigs you see. The Knicks might be able to get away with Lee at PF only if the Knicks can tag him along with a legit shot blocking center with length. If you watch the Suns even they have put Amare who at best is 6'9'' and put him next to a conventional center. Bosh same thing he has to placed next to a conventional center. If the Knicks get Lebron he would need a legit center to make a run at a title. No matter how you look at it a Center is a must and only way the Knicks can be competitive at the highest level.

We all know that its all about LeBron, but even if he comes to the Knicks he still would need a Big to work with. The team has to have length to compete at playoff level and championship level.
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5/4/2010  11:38 PM
OK - who is this one big that is available?
Quality bigs became the dinosaurus of NBA...
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5/4/2010  11:53 PM
arkrud wrote:OK - who is this one big that is available?
Quality bigs became the dinosaurus of NBA...

Got to find one somewhere or develop one. I have noticed how crappy the centers have become but one thing is for sure regardless of skill level a conventional center goes a long way. Just look back at the Jordan years his teams always carried legit centers. Cartwright, Perdue, longley not the greatest centers, but they were legit centers. I think purchasing a low first round pick and taking Alabi would be a acceptable. Other wise trade an asset to get a center in here or a higher up pick and take Whiteside or Cousins. Call the Clips and look into the availability of Deandres Jordan. Check the availability of Thabeet with Memphis. Possible euro prospects. Without a legit center the Knicks won't be going anywhere even if LeBron is on board.
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5/5/2010  1:18 AM
arkrud wrote:OK - who is this one big that is available?
Quality bigs became the dinosaurus of NBA...

We've had our chances to get a C

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5/5/2010  1:53 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
arkrud wrote:OK - who is this one big that is available?
Quality bigs became the dinosaurus of NBA...

We've had our chances to get a C

To get A Center or a good one? I would think we'd hope to try and find a good C. The thing is that there are a ton of mediocre C's and they don't really help teams to get out of the pack. There are so few good C's it's almost impossible to snatch one from a team that has him. We will likely focus on getting better at other positions that have much more great talent available. We'll likely end up with someone passable at the C spot for now.
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5/5/2010  3:05 AM
I know I'll be ridiculed for even mentioning his name but if eddy curry comes tocamp healthy next year then he'll get a shot. I think a lean curry is a legit center. He's not a defensive guy but he can score I mean if Perkins is enough for Boston to win one then curry should do fine...if his legs hold up
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5/5/2010  8:07 AM
Loconixfan wrote:I know I'll be ridiculed for even mentioning his name but if eddy curry comes tocamp healthy next year then he'll get a shot. I think a lean curry is a legit center. He's not a defensive guy but he can score I mean if Perkins is enough for Boston to win one then curry should do fine...if his legs hold up

aaaaaaaaand... start the ridiculing.

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5/5/2010  8:14 AM
Curry has never been a legit center on defense. Gotta work out a trade for a pick to get Monroe, Sanders, or Whiteside. Even Udoh as a shot blocking 4 or Vornado as a change of pace defender in the 2nd round would be a step in the right direction.
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5/5/2010  8:15 AM
Loconixfan wrote:I know I'll be ridiculed for even mentioning his name but if eddy curry comes tocamp healthy next year then he'll get a shot. I think a lean curry is a legit center. He's not a defensive guy but he can score I mean if Perkins is enough for Boston to win one then curry should do fine...if his legs hold up

Perkins and... eddy. Are you kidding?
Perkins is a nasty dude with attitude. He may be not the elite C but he does his job. Nobody is ashamed of him as he is a warrioor.
Eddy is a piece of sht and not even a complete man outsite of chasing taxi drivers...

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5/5/2010  8:15 AM
arkrud wrote:
Loconixfan wrote:I know I'll be ridiculed for even mentioning his name but if eddy curry comes tocamp healthy next year then he'll get a shot. I think a lean curry is a legit center. He's not a defensive guy but he can score I mean if Perkins is enough for Boston to win one then curry should do fine...if his legs hold up

Perkins and... eddy. Are you kidding?
Perkins is a nasty dude with attitude. He may be not the elite C but he does his job. Nobody is ashamed of him as he is a warrioor.
Eddy is a piece of sht and not even a complete man outsite of chasing taxi drivers...

LOL

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5/5/2010  8:27 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Curry has never been a legit center on defense. Gotta work out a trade for a pick to get Monroe, Sanders, or Whiteside. Even Udoh as a shot blocking 4 or Vornado as a change of pace defender in the 2nd round would be a step in the right direction.

those guys should be good... by 2014. If thats the plan sounds good
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5/5/2010  9:18 AM
Loconixfan wrote:I know I'll be ridiculed for even mentioning his name but if eddy curry comes tocamp healthy next year then he'll get a shot. I think a lean curry is a legit center. He's not a defensive guy but he can score I mean if Perkins is enough for Boston to win one then curry should do fine...if his legs hold up

STOP THE MADDNESS!
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5/5/2010  9:34 AM
Panos wrote:
Loconixfan wrote:I know I'll be ridiculed for even mentioning his name but if eddy curry comes tocamp healthy next year then he'll get a shot. I think a lean curry is a legit center. He's not a defensive guy but he can score I mean if Perkins is enough for Boston to win one then curry should do fine...if his legs hold up

STOP THE MADDNESS!

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5/5/2010  10:56 AM
ANd Gasol can't keep up with Dlee on the defensive end. DLee with the midrange pulls him out and he can blow right by him.

Bynum is a monster but so far he is unreliable with his legs. Always a strain, pull, tear, etc with this guy. I can see this guy becoming a "Marvin Webster" free agent one day getting big money but always hurt.

Of course we can't compete with the Lakes right now but Lets see how the Lakes even finish. Orlando over paid Gortat to have 6 fouls to deal with Shaq and Bynum. Put Dwight and Gortat up with Lakes and you give them problems. Offensively they can get Gasol in foul trouble. Pau is not defensive great either.

YOu beat them by running them. Running has yet to be playoff proven but one day someone is going to do it. Wear the other team out. Works in Football.

Another aspect is Gallo. At 6-10 he can be our Odom. Not as athletic but has other skills. As a point forward he has some special skills to do damage.

But lets Get Lebron here first.....>

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5/5/2010  11:21 AM
The Knicks really aren't that far away and that's something thats very hard to see. Teams go through lulls all the team and what seperates us from being great is that player that all the scared little cavs shovel the ball t when the games on the line.

And in regards to the Lakers

David Lee vs LA

31pts 17rbs 4ass
13pts 7rbs 2ass

Add a Star and another solid defender to go with the exact same team and you would be shocked. Gallo, Chandler, Lee, Douglas is nothing to sneeze at.

And Eddy will play and play well this season. His life is over without another contract don't underestimate that. I don't like the guy and know we can't count on him.
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5/5/2010  11:51 AM
yeah, all we need is a guy who's better than Kobe & we're just as good as the Lakers if not better... shouldn't be that hard to find.
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5/5/2010  11:59 AM
I've been burned by Eddy too many times. But to be fair he was never bad on Man D. His problem was help D. He wasn't alert and was always too late. Not many guys were able to just muscle him around in the paint. If he could ever get healthy his presence could help against guys like Shaq or Howard during key spurts. Of course he can't get healthy so...
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5/5/2010  12:12 PM
MS wrote:The Knicks really aren't that far away and that's something thats very hard to see. Teams go through lulls all the team and what seperates us from being great is that player that all the scared little cavs shovel the ball t when the games on the line.

And in regards to the Lakers

David Lee vs LA

31pts 17rbs 4ass
13pts 7rbs 2ass

Add a Star and another solid defender to go with the exact same team and you would be shocked. Gallo, Chandler, Lee, Douglas is nothing to sneeze at.

And Eddy will play and play well this season. His life is over without another contract don't underestimate that. I don't like the guy and know we can't count on him.

No- we're not that far away. We've been a 30 win team now for ten years, haven't really ever added any talent through the draft and added parts that were miscast and unwanted by the team that traded them to us.

Please, we are so far away. Lebron added to this roster may get us into the 40's for win totals - maybe even 48/49.

But we'll still be a long way from being a final 8 team for the NBA, let alone finalist and champion.

Even adding Lebron and Bosh, how much better is Bosh than lets say Lee & Harrington?

Be honest with yourself. All the players we're keeping - Chandler, Gallo, Douglas- they couldn't outplay any of the bench scrubs on the teams playing right now.

And where are you finding five starters?
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5/5/2010  12:40 PM
Franco12 can we allow the young guys we have to fully mature? Gallo, Chan n TD are still improving and haven't peaked yet. It could be that we'll see them blossom this year. They've only shown improvement with time so far.
Besides we still don't know what else DW is gonna add to the roster this summer. He could pull off a deal that pushes the team much higher than we expect. Anything is possible at this point.
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5/5/2010  1:37 PM
Eddy is nothing to me.

THe probability of him returning to form of any kind after playing 10 games in two seasons has got to be very low.

He does not have a body that can play in the NBA.
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