For a allstar 20-10 guy the knicks should be able to get marginal talent and low 1st round picks.

Anji wrote:Trades for All star David Lee.

Nets
Yi Jianlian and 27th pick
Probably the cheapest way the Nets can help Brooks with a real all star caliber 4 man.

Heat
Michael Beasley and 18th pick
Basically the Heat can add a 20-10 PF for about 3-5 million more than MB plus the pick.

Bucks
Dan Gadzuric and 15th pick
Fear the Dear, you put a guy as productive as Lee at the 4 today the Bucks are probably favored to beat the Hawks in game 7.

Thunder
Jeff Green and 26th pick
Another team that was in the playoffs because of great back court play. Probably a team fighting for a top four seed with any real help in the rebounding and paint scoring department.

Also the Pacers and Clippers have top ten picks that you can ask about in a Deal for a bad expiring Like Troy Murphy or a Chris Kaman/Baron Davis bad deal.

Might have reached on taking a high first and pretty good young talent from some of these teams and Lee probably doesn't want to play for the Pacers or Clippers at the least, but this is the best case imo for not losing Lee 4 nothing.

None of these trades are realistically possible as you can't trade Free Agents on draft day. Draft takes place before July 1rst. These trades can be done after the draft I believe 30days after a pick is signed. But the likely hood a team picks a player we want at said first round selection and waits 40-60 days to consummate a trade(usually picks aren't signed right away) and Lee waits this same period of time isn't even remotely believable. You also can't negotiate such a deal in advance as it would violate the CBA and we could get hit up by Stern with hefty penalties of Mchale Timberwolves like proportions.

I'm offering Lee a 6 year $70mm contract that starts at $9mm next year. If he's going to get more guarenteed money from another team they will have to start him at $12mm. If they say no way then I would go as high as starting him at $10mm. Thats 6 years $78mm. Thats it. If he's going to get more on the open market someone will have to start him at $13.5mm to beat that offer. If Lee can get someone to pay him 13,14,15,17,18mm the next 5 years god bless him. At that point you say he's out of our market and we would entertain sign and trades

iSergio wrote:

fishmike wrote:I wouldnt do any of those trades, sorry they all suck. I'm trading a 20/10/55% all star for a mid-late first rounder.

I'm offering Lee a 6 year $70mm contract that starts at $9mm next year. If he's going to get more guarenteed money from another team they will have to start him at $12mm. If they say no way then I would go as high as starting him at $10mm. Thats 6 years $78mm. Thats it. If he's going to get more on the open market someone will have to start him at $13.5mm to beat that offer. If Lee can get someone to pay him 13,14,15,17,18mm the next 5 years god bless him. At that point you say he's out of our market and we would entertain sign and trades

David Lee would not be a 20/10/55% All-Star on another team. Just like Shawn Marion is no All-Star in Dallas and Boris Diaw stinks in Charlotte.

i think isergio just served up a 20/10/55% ass kicking on fishmike

iSergio wrote:

fishmike wrote:I wouldnt do any of those trades, sorry they all suck. I'm trading a 20/10/55% all star for a mid-late first rounder.

I'm offering Lee a 6 year $70mm contract that starts at $9mm next year. If he's going to get more guarenteed money from another team they will have to start him at $12mm. If they say no way then I would go as high as starting him at $10mm. Thats 6 years $78mm. Thats it. If he's going to get more on the open market someone will have to start him at $13.5mm to beat that offer. If Lee can get someone to pay him 13,14,15,17,18mm the next 5 years god bless him. At that point you say he's out of our market and we would entertain sign and trades

David Lee would not be a 20/10/55% All-Star on another team. Just like Shawn Marion is no All-Star in Dallas and Boris Diaw stinks in Charlotte.

Again.. how are Lee's stats inflated? He averaged 12rpg when he went to PF playing next to Barron. Look at his april stats.

Lee is shooting 55%. For his career. With 3 coaches. His skills improve every year. His jump shot is one of the best.

Guys that can score, rebound, handle the ball, shoot, and score at an elite FG% are guys you keep around.

iSergio wrote:Some dumb team like Jersey or the Clippers will give David Lee $13M+.

A little birdie whispered in my ear that David already has a winky deal with the Brooklyn Nets. Seems like his best destination since he loves NYC. Forget taking back Yi. We are going to lose Lee.

fishmike wrote:

Cosmic wrote:Does anyone know the answer to David Lee's status?

Can he just plain walk? Do we have his rights?

If we have his rights maybe we get lucky the way the Hawks got lucky with Josh Smith (offered 5/55 (I forget by who..memphis??) and matched by the Hawks.) when he was seeking 75M).

If not then it's not even our concern. It's out of our hands.

Anyone know?

the deal is simple. We own Lee's bird rights and thats it. We can offer him a 6 year contract and 10.5% raises every year. Another team can offer him a 5 year contract at 8% raises. Its a significant advantage to the Knicks because Lee isnt Lebron and will be looking at this contract to secure him for life. The total amount more in guarenteed money we can offer is a big plus for us. Also he wants to be here.

If the Brooklyn Nets want to offer him $14-$15mm a year good for Lee. He earned it, and he will be missed. Playing with John Wall and Brook Lopez will get him quite a few more all star appearances and Knick fans will wonder what went wrong.

Or he'll go there - become the 3rd option in a non-pick and roll offense while fighting for rebounds with Brook Lopez. Maybe his stats go to 16 and 9. He becomes a great 3rd option that is HIGHLY overpaid considering he plays NO D and can't get his own shot.