He hired a coach who's had ZERO success in the playoffs despite having excellent talant to work with.

I also think Dirk is probably never winning a ring in dallas..I see a EWING type career for him

knicks1248 wrote:Do you guy's think he's a good smart owner...This dude IMO is just too visible, no owner in damn near any sports does post game interviews let alone, in the hallways.

He hired a coach who's had ZERO success in the playoffs despite having excellent talant to work with.

I also think Dirk is probably never winning a ring in dallas..I see a EWING type career for him

I disagree some on Cuban - I think he's done a reasonably decent job - they keep winning.

He'd probably be smart to move Dirk this off season, and start to rebuild now when his team has value- not sure how committed he is to different players as far as contracts.

Don't mind the interviews - that is better than Dolan who hides and won't face the music.

Rick Carlisle? He was a good signing for them, and has added defense. San Antonio is a tough team- they're built for the play offs, and I can see them getting by Phoenix in the next series.

I'm not sure there was a better coach available at the time they made their move.

I'd trade MDA for Carlisle in 2 seconds.

why would someone do that?

franco12 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Do you guy's think he's a good smart owner...This dude IMO is just too visible, no owner in damn near any sports does post game interviews let alone, in the hallways.

He hired a coach who's had ZERO success in the playoffs despite having excellent talant to work with.

I also think Dirk is probably never winning a ring in dallas..I see a EWING type career for him

I disagree some on Cuban - I think he's done a reasonably decent job - they keep winning.

He'd probably be smart to move Dirk this off season, and start to rebuild now when his team has value- not sure how committed he is to different players as far as contracts.

Don't mind the interviews - that is better than Dolan who hides and won't face the music.

Rick Carlisle? He was a good signing for them, and has added defense. San Antonio is a tough team- they're built for the play offs, and I can see them getting by Phoenix in the next series.

I'm not sure there was a better coach available at the time they made their move.

I'd trade MDA for Carlisle in 2 seconds.

Franco,

Did you even watch the series? I ask because watching any of them games one thing was glaringly obvious: Rick Carlisle can't coach for ****. Carlisle would be good for a crappy team like the Knicks but for a team looking to contend he's a ****ty coach. So like he failed in Detroit and Indiana he failed in Dallas. He seems to have piss poor relationships with his players and uses playing time to meet out punishment. He jerked Caron Butler around until it was too late and Dallas was down 3-1, he refused to sit Dampier even though he was repeatedly beat on SA's pick and roll, and Roddy Beabouis didn't get minutes until last night what to know what his production was: 16 points in 20 mins. He did that all in the 2nd and 3rd quarter, you know what genius Carlisle does he sits him the entire 4th till Dallas was down 9 pts with 2 minutes left in the game. The guy should have been fired last night.

The Spurs I give them a ton of credit they are a class organization. If you want to know how t win in this league follow their blue print (I'm looking at you Knicks). The Spurs are peaking right now they had injuries all year got healthy and are playing great. Under different circumstances these teams could have met in the Conference Finals.

bitty41 wrote:

franco12 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Do you guy's think he's a good smart owner...This dude IMO is just too visible, no owner in damn near any sports does post game interviews let alone, in the hallways.

He hired a coach who's had ZERO success in the playoffs despite having excellent talant to work with.

I also think Dirk is probably never winning a ring in dallas..I see a EWING type career for him

I disagree some on Cuban - I think he's done a reasonably decent job - they keep winning.

He'd probably be smart to move Dirk this off season, and start to rebuild now when his team has value- not sure how committed he is to different players as far as contracts.

Don't mind the interviews - that is better than Dolan who hides and won't face the music.

Rick Carlisle? He was a good signing for them, and has added defense. San Antonio is a tough team- they're built for the play offs, and I can see them getting by Phoenix in the next series.

I'm not sure there was a better coach available at the time they made their move.

I'd trade MDA for Carlisle in 2 seconds.

Franco,

Did you even watch the series? I ask because watching any of them games one thing was glaringly obvious: Rick Carlisle can't coach for ****. Carlisle would be good for a crappy team like the Knicks but for a team looking to contend he's a ****ty coach. So like he failed in Detroit and Indiana he failed in Dallas. He seems to have piss poor relationships with his players and uses playing time to meet out punishment. He jerked Caron Butler around until it was too late and Dallas was down 3-1, he refused to sit Dampier even though he was repeatedly beat on SA's pick and roll, and Roddy Beabouis didn't get minutes until last night what to know what his production was: 16 points in 20 mins. He did that all in the 2nd and 3rd quarter, you know what genius Carlisle does he sits him the entire 4th till Dallas was down 9 pts with 2 minutes left in the game. The guy should have been fired last night.

The Spurs I give them a ton of credit they are a class organization. If you want to know how t win in this league follow their blue print (I'm looking at you Knicks). The Spurs are peaking right now they had injuries all year got healthy and are playing great. Under different circumstances these teams could have met in the Conference Finals.

sebstar wrote:

martin wrote:

sebstar wrote:Yep. Carlisle is a mediocre coach. His career has proved it, after his nice little rookie year ways back.

What a horrible panic move to get rid of Avery.

I dont really remember, but did Avery really do much better? He made it to the finals one year and then was ousted by Golden State in first round and then again in first round the following year. Hornets, Right?

Fair. But if not for Wade and the refs going off, Avery would have gotten them a chip.

The Warriors went nuts. That was a bad choke job, but the Hornets were better than the Mavs in '08.

Whats Carlisle done with this team?

same as Avery did in his last 2 years, lose in first round.

I seem to recall that they were jobbed by the refs in the finals when they lost. Breathe near Wade and a foul was called.

The West is just loaded. Cuban made one very bad trade to bring in Kidd, but that franchise sucked before he got there and they win a ton of games every year.

What's more amazing is how a team like the Spurs is built entirely on late round draft picks Parker, Hill, Manu, Blair with the exception of Duncan.

sebstar wrote:

martin wrote:

sebstar wrote:

martin wrote:

sebstar wrote:Yep. Carlisle is a mediocre coach. His career has proved it, after his nice little rookie year ways back.

What a horrible panic move to get rid of Avery.

I dont really remember, but did Avery really do much better? He made it to the finals one year and then was ousted by Golden State in first round and then again in first round the following year. Hornets, Right?

Fair. But if not for Wade and the refs going off, Avery would have gotten them a chip.

The Warriors went nuts. That was a bad choke job, but the Hornets were better than the Mavs in '08.

Whats Carlisle done with this team?

same as Avery did in his last 2 years, lose in first round.

I seem to recall that they were jobbed by the refs in the finals when they lost. Breathe near Wade and a foul was called.

The calls were almost hilarious.

We call Wade, D-Whistle now.

you know what? it's really not true. i know no one would want to spend the time to re-watch the series, but there were 2 such calls in the entire series. you watch any finals series with jordan, kobe, etc. and i doubt you wouldn't find at least 2 similar kinds of calls for dynamic ball-dominating physical guards who take it into the teeth of the other team's defense.