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JohnWallace44
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4/28/2010  10:50 PM
Jennings is about to pull out a massive upset in this Hawks series. That could very easily be the Knicks with the Garden going insane instead of "Fear the Deer"

Get Chris Mullin in here. Walsh has been a disaster in two drafts and is almost out of Isiah draftees. I don't want him trying to make the right choice with our 2nd rounders.

It really just drives me crazy to think that we passed over not only Jennings but all of the other PG's in the draft. Any one of them would have been great picks, but we somehow took our position of need and a draft geared towards that position and totally biffed on it, picking a guy that it took multiple picks to get rid of instead. Wow.

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4/28/2010  10:55 PM
Chris Mullin drafted Chris Taft so how is he a better talent evaluator?

I don't hate Mullin, I think he's decent (took a terrible Warriors team and got them to the playoffs and even had them win a round against the top seed) but I'm just saying.

Also, Walsh isn't the only GM who passed on him. 9 other teams did. A lot of people thought he would be the next Marbury character-wise and that he wasn't an ideal PG (couldn't school and more of a scorer). We don't know if Jennings would have been the same here under D'Antoni. Maybe he'd be acting like an ass here. But Skiles is a tough guy. He doesn't play games. He demands respect. I wish we had Skiles here instead of Mike.

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4/28/2010  11:16 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:Chris Mullin drafted Chris Taft so how is he a better talent evaluator?

I don't hate Mullin, I think he's decent (took a terrible Warriors team and got them to the playoffs and even had them win a round against the top seed) but I'm just saying.

Also, Walsh isn't the only GM who passed on him. 9 other teams did. A lot of people thought he would be the next Marbury character-wise and that he wasn't an ideal PG (couldn't school and more of a scorer). We don't know if Jennings would have been the same here under D'Antoni. Maybe he'd be acting like an ass here. But Skiles is a tough guy. He doesn't play games. He demands respect. I wish we had Skiles here instead of Mike.

I know for a fact Jennings wouldn't have been playing defense like he has been in the playoffs if he was drafted by the Knicks. Jennings proving he is talented and coachable.

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4/28/2010  11:17 PM
Everybody wanted gold... but most of them freeze to death in the snow...
Lee, Galo, Chan... do you want more luck?
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4/29/2010  12:14 AM
Every year a player exceeds draft position! Every GM makes mistakes and just cuz Jennings is looking ok now doesn't mean he's going to be a lock to have a great career. Stop getting upset over stuff that can't be helped.

We got a good value out of many of our picks and not so much on other picks. It's not like Jennings was on top of everyones boards and was a can't miss prospect. He did have some questions and some negatives. I understand the disappointment but stuff happens. If and when DW puts his new team together I doubt we'll be talking about Jennings.

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4/29/2010  12:27 AM
nixluva wrote:Every year a player exceeds draft position! Every GM makes mistakes and just cuz Jennings is looking ok now doesn't mean he's going to be a lock to have a great career. Stop getting upset over stuff that can't be helped.

We got a good value out of many of our picks and not so much on other picks. It's not like Jennings was on top of everyones boards and was a can't miss prospect. He did have some questions and some negatives. I understand the disappointment but stuff happens. If and when DW puts his new team together I doubt we'll be talking about Jennings.

This is all great but wasn't it Donnie who seem upset about missing out on Jennings as much as the fans. Going so far as to try and lay the blame on Isiah scouts despite the fact that he, MDA and two other execs went to see him in Italy to scout him and then just gave up because Jennings was playing in Rome during the playoffs. I mean the Bucks manage to travel the extra couple of hours to do their homework. Seems like someone drop the ball up top on scouting but like you said it happens.

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4/29/2010  12:53 AM
nixluva wrote:Every year a player exceeds draft position! Every GM makes mistakes and just cuz Jennings is looking ok now doesn't mean he's going to be a lock to have a great career. Stop getting upset over stuff that can't be helped.

We got a good value out of many of our picks and not so much on other picks. It's not like Jennings was on top of everyones boards and was a can't miss prospect. He did have some questions and some negatives. I understand the disappointment but stuff happens. If and when DW puts his new team together I doubt we'll be talking about Jennings.

This organization constantly drafts poorly and trades lottery pick for over the hill players. The excuses are getting tired.

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4/29/2010  2:15 AM
what's infuriating to me is that he was on my radar... and the reason he was on my radar is before he even committed to University of Arizona, the RealGM fanboys knew who he was. And there was a debate--A LEGIT DEBATE--over who was better: Rubio or Jennings.

Now, we all know what a Rubio fanboy I am, but I figure if there was that type of debate before Jennings was even denied entrance to the NCAA, well, he had to be a legit prospect. And every clip and article on him supported that. Hence why I said repeatedly at draft time, If Jennings is available, you have to take him.

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4/29/2010  8:05 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/29/2010  8:08 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Jennings is about to pull out a massive upset in this Hawks series. That could very easily be the Knicks with the Garden going insane instead of "Fear the Deer"

Get Chris Mullin in here. Walsh has been a disaster in two drafts and is almost out of Isiah draftees. I don't want him trying to make the right choice with our 2nd rounders.

It really just drives me crazy to think that we passed over not only Jennings but all of the other PG's in the draft. Any one of them would have been great picks, but we somehow took our position of need and a draft geared towards that position and totally biffed on it, picking a guy that it took multiple picks to get rid of instead. Wow.

People were asking me repeatedly, why all the spew towards management not taking the flashy heady pg, I bet even Zeke would have took Jennings. I mean the kid was viewing tapes on Kenny Anderson since the 9th grade

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4/29/2010  8:11 AM
seems like Gallo and Douglas are good players. The Hill pick was bad. How is that blowing 2 drafts?

You love to ride Jenning's jock. Great job on the Bucks. I guess Joe Alexander and Yi Jing-a-ling were also great picks?

Easy to focus on thing and ignore the rest. Walsh has added a couple of good players in the draft. Willing to bet he adds more this summer.

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4/29/2010  8:13 AM
fishmike wrote:seems like Gallo and Douglas are good players. The Hill pick was bad. How is that blowing 2 drafts?

You love to ride Jenning's jock. Great job on the Bucks. I guess Joe Alexander and Yi Jing-a-ling were also great picks?

Easy to focus on thing and ignore the rest. Walsh has added a couple of good players in the draft. Willing to bet he adds more this summer.

In fairness, that chair could not guard Yi

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4/29/2010  8:16 AM
And its not like the Knicks didn't need a PG. C'mon. Hill? What BS.

And this is less about Jennings, and I think more about Scott Skiles. I've never been a fan of his, but, had we picked him instead of MDA, we would have been way better this year. Sure, we probably still don't make the play offs, but we would have guys that played defense.

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4/29/2010  8:20 AM
fishmike wrote:seems like Gallo and Douglas are good players. The Hill pick was bad. How is that blowing 2 drafts?

You love to ride Jenning's jock. Great job on the Bucks. I guess Joe Alexander and Yi Jing-a-ling were also great picks?

Easy to focus on thing and ignore the rest. Walsh has added a couple of good players in the draft. Willing to bet he adds more this summer.

Some of you are driving me insane with the lame excuses. Danphoney needed a PG TO RUN HIS SSOL.

We had one that would have been top 3 pick right after Highschool ball stop the madness we needed a guy like him in the WORST WAY !!!!!

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4/29/2010  8:20 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
fishmike wrote:seems like Gallo and Douglas are good players. The Hill pick was bad. How is that blowing 2 drafts?

You love to ride Jenning's jock. Great job on the Bucks. I guess Joe Alexander and Yi Jing-a-ling were also great picks?

Easy to focus on thing and ignore the rest. Walsh has added a couple of good players in the draft. Willing to bet he adds more this summer.

In fairness, that chair could not guard Yi


the guy is such a bad basketball player. How does that happen? Its like seeing Michael Strahan hit homers in that Modell's commercial and giving a 5 year contract to come play baseball.

We all know JohnWallace despises Gallo and we all aslo know he's just wrong on that front. Walsh also scouted Douglas spot on and picking up that pick to add him was good management. Douglas may or may not be a great PG, but he's definatly a rotation player and an impact guy on both ends.

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4/29/2010  8:24 AM
playa2 wrote:
fishmike wrote:seems like Gallo and Douglas are good players. The Hill pick was bad. How is that blowing 2 drafts?

You love to ride Jenning's jock. Great job on the Bucks. I guess Joe Alexander and Yi Jing-a-ling were also great picks?

Easy to focus on thing and ignore the rest. Walsh has added a couple of good players in the draft. Willing to bet he adds more this summer.

Some of you are driving me insane with the lame excuses. Danphoney needed a PG TO RUN HIS SSOL.

We had one that would have been top 3 pick right after Highschool ball stop the madness we needed a guy like him in the WORST WAY !!!!!

whats the lame excuse? The Hill pick was bad. Plain and simple. Walsh said himself we should have drafted Jennings. We have had two drafts with this management and 3 picks. Two are really good and one was a waste. Whats the excuse?
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4/29/2010  8:24 AM
Unless we get chris paul, we blew it bigtime.
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4/29/2010  8:27 AM
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4/29/2010  9:42 AM
Missing on Jennings is going to hurt for years. The kid is special. He doesn't look like he should be, his physical build reminds me of Kenny Anderson - not the type of guy you'd think would be able to stand up to the punishment of the NBA. And maybe he won't over the long haul.

But right now... just a special and fun player to watch. Amazing talent. You think Bron or Bosh might want to come to NY a little more if we had a guy like that to pair with Gallo and Wilson? Gee.

Just admit it, everyone. We BLEW IT.

What was our position of biggest need? Point guard. You have to go over EVERY PG in the draft with x-ray goggles. Twice. Walsh blew this one. I respect his tenure here in general. I agree with most of his decisions. But his lotto picks could have set us up perfectly for this summer. He didn't. It's fine. But if the Knicks had Jennings and had made the playoffs?! Can you imagine what this summer would be like?

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4/29/2010  9:50 AM
Walsh and this organization is a ****ing embarrassment. He is selling us on Joe Johnson? He can't even deliver a first round series win against a team of role players and a rookie that we should have drafted.

Walsh had his center he had his point guard. Now we have niether. The only thing that makes you really sick like was mentioned above was the fact that he was made at his scouts? I'm sorry but if there is a kid that was a top three pick if he went to school in Europe and he is falling because of it you do everything in you're power to scout him to death and have guys on him.

So far they have overplayed their hand in the draft and cleared space for no one. We ****ed around with Lee and now we are either losing him or paying him almost 4-5 million more per year than we should have. We should be going into this season with Jennings-Walker-Chandler-Lee-Lopez, but instead we have no center, point guard and a all-star power forward that is going to the Nets.

If we sign Joe Johnson we might as well kill ourselves.

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4/29/2010  9:54 AM
crzymdups wrote:Missing on Jennings is going to hurt for years. The kid is special. He doesn't look like he should be, his physical build reminds me of Kenny Anderson - not the type of guy you'd think would be able to stand up to the punishment of the NBA. And maybe he won't over the long haul.

But right now... just a special and fun player to watch. Amazing talent. You think Bron or Bosh might want to come to NY a little more if we had a guy like that to pair with Gallo and Wilson? Gee.

Just admit it, everyone. We BLEW IT.

What was our position of biggest need? Point guard. You have to go over EVERY PG in the draft with x-ray goggles. Twice. Walsh blew this one. I respect his tenure here in general. I agree with most of his decisions. But his lotto picks could have set us up perfectly for this summer. He didn't. It's fine. But if the Knicks had Jennings and had made the playoffs?! Can you imagine what this summer would be like?

That is the killer.

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