I think that we are. We would have to bring back the same team we had this year. I do beleive almost everone is resigning and David Lee is going to the Nets. We will have nothing but another losing season with out a draft pick?

Sangfroid wrote:Even if every major FA re-signs, there will still be some movement. True, it would be disappointing to not land our stud player, but I have confidence the Walsh will get at least one additional talent and not screw up the money, making us viable for years to come. Write this down, the Knicks will win more than 30 games next season.

Just what I was hoping for... NOT. Trading the picks as a huge roll of the dice with long odds would be foolish. I doubt Walsh is taking such a gamble. Let's hope not. We gave away too much to not get the doods we need.

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:If that happens the Knicks should fire Walsh and D'Antoni. However, with Dolan as owner anything can happen. Walsh has gone all in with current and future Knicks assets. He signed on a coach who has done nothing to develop the team for the future but has paid him a ton in hopes that his presence will draw stars this offseason. If this offseason doesn't land the Knicks at least one marquee free agent, Walsh and D'Antoni failed and the team needs to move on.

IF it happens that we can't get a top FA, it will not mean that he can't get players with the kind of upside that would make for a good team. Sure it wouldn't be what we set out to do, but I think there are acceptable levels of improvement short of Lebron, Wade or Bosh. We have a young core and if we had to go with more young studs like Gay etc. I think we could get that done and be an improved team, just not a top team right away.

I don't agree that we should look to fire this management if they can't convince any of these top FA's to sign. I'd still have to see what they actually do with the roster.

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:If that happens the Knicks should fire Walsh and D'Antoni. However, with Dolan as owner anything can happen. Walsh has gone all in with current and future Knicks assets. He signed on a coach who has done nothing to develop the team for the future but has paid him a ton in hopes that his presence will draw stars this offseason. If this offseason doesn't land the Knicks at least one marquee free agent, Walsh and D'Antoni failed and the team needs to move on.

IF it happens that we can't get a top FA, it will not mean that he can't get players with the kind of upside that would make for a good team. Sure it wouldn't be what we set out to do, but I think there are acceptable levels of improvement short of Lebron, Wade or Bosh. We have a young core and if we had to go with more young studs like Gay etc. I think we could get that done and be an improved team, just not a top team right away.

I don't agree that we should look to fire this management if they can't convince any of these top FA's to sign. I'd still have to see what they actually do with the roster.

I think a positive attitude is great but I think the Hill and the draft picks trade makes this offseason the make or break offseason for Walsh and D'Antoni.

I just think DW and all his Agent friends have been planning this for the last two years. Stern can't stop DW from talking to his friends about this stuff. He's done so many favors for these Agents and they all realize how much side money there is to be made here.

AnubisADL wrote:

nixluva wrote:I just think DW and all his Agent friends have been planning this for the last two years. Stern can't stop DW from talking to his friends about this stuff. He's done so many favors for these Agents and they all realize how much side money there is to be made here.

Pat Riley has agent friends
John Paxson has agent friends
Rod Thorn has agent friends

You are setting yourself up to be let down thinking like that. The home team can offer a 6th year which equals more money in the Agents pocket. Agents are used car salesmen. They sell to the highest bidder.

A superstar player can make more money off the court and the best players aren't gonna be worried about that 6th year. If a Lebron, Wade or Bosh wants to sign somewhere else I don't think they'll worry about that 6th year. These guys are supremely confident and feel they will get an extension anyway. If the 6th yr was all powerful why even go on the market in the 1st place?
Miami n NJ are horrid NBA cities. We gave proven how loyal and supportive a fanbase NY is. Look at these last few losing seasons and still the NY fans support!

These guys are serious about this process. I don't think it's just for show. If DW could pull off a deal for one of the top players it will seriously improve our chances. I actually think DW has been more inclined to hook up his Agent friends than Riley, Paxson or Thorn! Those 3 have been far less willing to bring in guys like we have. Despite TMac's inability to get anything going it still won points with his agent that DW gave him that shot. Over the years DW has been doing favors like this.

SupremeCommander wrote:what about may dirk being available too? I know common logic is he gets resigned, but cuban did cut the cord with Nash and Dirk is getting older and will have yet another meltdown on his CV

I think Cuban will admit he made a mistake not resigning Nash, and if anything, I suspect he'll over compensate with Dirk.