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4/24/2010  4:16 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/24/2010  4:36 PM
And sources have told ESPN.com that Miami, fed up with Beasley's lack of devotion to defense and his steep learning curve in the maturity department, tried diligently to move Beasley before the trading deadline in February but found no takers willing to give up anything more than garbage.

So if Beasley can be moved before the draft for a player with only a partial guarantee for 2010-11, or if the Heat can arrange an uneven deal (in terms of salaries) and send him to an under-the-cap team in a trade that would be consummated after the league's one-week moratorium on player movement ends July 8, look for Riley to go for it.

Because despite Beasley's brief burst of offense -- four of his seven field goals came in a stretch of the first four minutes of the fourth quarter to help Miami battle back right when it appeared Boston was poised to pull away -- his body of work in this series, 11.7 points and 7.0 rebounds per game, and his two years of incidents and inconsistency have made him expendable.

Yes, it would be difficult to tacitly admit Beasley was a mistake at No. 2, but major mistakes have been made there before (the name Darko comes to mind).

And yes, Riley is prideful.

But not so much so that he'd let a bad decision from 2008 get in the way of what he wants to build for 2011, 2012 and 2013. (There are some in the Heat organization who believe Riley will offer Wade and two other players the option of signing four-year contracts with opt-out clauses after three years).

"That's a tough question. It may be true, it may not," Beasley said beforehand when asked if he realized his future in Miami could be determined by this series.

"It could be. You are most definitely right. Will it be? Who knows? I haven't heard anything regarding this summer."

For those who may have forgotten, Beasley was the consolation prize in the draft that landed Derrick Rose in Chicago after the Bulls won the lottery. Riley was active in trying to move the No. 2 pick two Junes ago but ended up using it, and Beasley has been more of a headache that a help in the two seasons since.

"I'm a little smarter, I understand the game a little better, but I'm still the same guy," said Beasley, who insists his maturity level and his commitment to basketball have both improved since the birth 11 months ago of his daughter, Mikaiya. "I love my daughter to death, and the things I do reflect on me. I don't want her to be 5 years old and hear [her] daddy had a DUI. Everything I do, everything, I think about how it's going to affect her and what she's going to think when she's old enough to understand."

But it was during those 11 months that Beasley checked himself into a Houston rehabilitation facility, reportedly for substance abuse and psychological issues, after posting a series of curious messages on his Twitter account that led some to fear for his mental health.

Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2010/columns/story?columnist=sheridan_chris&page=beasleygame3-100423

Seriously we NEED to get this guy ASAP. This guy isnt a locker room cancer. Yea the guy likes to "party" but he isn't a distraction. The guy is just dripping with talent and playing under D'Anotni could really help him blossom. Beasley and Gallo at the Forward spots would be a NIGHTMARE for teams.

Now I know some are going to hate this but I'd wait until the Moratorium was over and literally absorb Beasley's deal in exchange for Chandler, Walker, and Whoever.

I compare Beasley to Anthony when everyone was hating on him. If Riley is stupid enough to trade him to us then we will get the last laugh. Beasley is more talented than Anthony as well without the weight issues and superior athleticism.

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4/24/2010  4:37 PM
I'm down...but do you resign Lee with Beasley on the roster? I say no. Knicks would then have to find a real center who can rebound like Lee and block shots. Haywood?
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4/24/2010  4:45 PM
I would definitely welcome TITO here.
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4/24/2010  4:45 PM
Okay, I think some clarification on the Beasley-Anthony items are needed
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4/24/2010  5:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/24/2010  5:31 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:Okay, I think some clarification on the Beasley-Anthony items are needed

Both were dominant College players. Carmelo got into trouble early in his career by attempting to carry weed onto a plane. Carmelo also was on some No Snitching video were he received alot of Heat. Now Knicks fans love some Carmelo in 2011. Seems people have short memory because I dont recall anyone proclaiming Anthony as anything but a scorer his first few years in the league.

If you gave Michael Beasley free run on a team he'd probably be averaging around 25 PPG.

The only reason Beasley is available is because they want to win now and dont want to give him time to develop.

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4/24/2010  5:31 PM
He would be a nice pick up when we lose Lee.
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4/24/2010  6:48 PM
Why do we "NEED" this guy? He hasn't proven anything in the league. I'm sick of these "what if" bull**** players we keep acquiring. I want to acquire real leaders and players for this team, not guys who've been in the league and still have to realize their "potential".
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4/24/2010  7:32 PM
He plays no defense on a solid defensive team, can you imagine him playng for a coach where defense is an option
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4/24/2010  8:07 PM
Youthful, cheap talent is the key to our future. Trade Chandler for Beasley and trade Curry for OK4.

C = OK4
PF = BEASLEY
SF = GALLO
SG = ??
PG = ??

Atleast it gives us a good cheap front line of 2 rookie contracts on the books for 2 more years and the stability of OK4 as the anchor. We still have enough for 2 max contracts because OK4 took Curry's salary.

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4/24/2010  8:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/24/2010  9:57 PM
Beasley is looking like a classic example of a cat that wont be able to live down where he was selected. He's a good scorer, but he'll always be looked upon as a bust which can wear you down.

His ceiling is David Lee.

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4/24/2010  9:53 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:Why do we "NEED" this guy? He hasn't proven anything in the league. I'm sick of these "what if" bull**** players we keep acquiring. I want to acquire real leaders and players for this team, not guys who've been in the league and still have to realize their "potential".

Real leaders are retained by their teammates and drafted. Tell Walsh to stop trading picks and draft properly so we cab acquire those type of players through the draft.

Since we already traded the pick we have to acquire what is available. Beasley isn't as bad as some of these people make him out to be. He is such a chucker yet he doesn't even average that many FG attempts per game. Carmelo anthony was taking nearly 20 FG attempts as a rookie.

In regards to his defense the guy is a solid defender. I don't expect a guy who is 6'8" too lock down long PF's.

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4/24/2010  9:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/24/2010  9:57 PM
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4/25/2010  12:35 AM
the only reason to trade for Beasley is the same reason I would trade for Oden - perhaps a change of scenery and different environment and expectations and you'll see a player achieve some level of success.

But I would never give up anything much- certainly not as much as Miami will expect or receive.

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4/25/2010  12:43 AM
pls no he is not good in defense plus he will play the 4 spot here
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4/25/2010  1:29 AM
Seems like a perfect knick once we give him a long term contract for 7 years.

Then he can bring his half moon sad droopy ass eyes (hows that one sebby?)and we can rag on his lack of
defense and low on court IQ!

Few denied Melos talent but his immaturity was in question.

Melo is surrounded on a pretty good team that supports him.

I think we can find fault with anyone but Lebron.

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4/25/2010  9:11 AM
sebstar wrote:Beasley is looking like a classic example of a cat that wont be able to live down where he was selected. He's a good scorer, but he'll always be looked upon as a bust which can wear you down.

His ceiling is David Lee.

You mean like Tim Thomas? Who never let the BUST thing wear him down he always just played his game and rarely complained about anything. Beasley meanwhile is an immature whiny little fool.

His ceiling is David Lee? That's not possible. Beasley sucks and Lee is an All-Star with incredible numbers. I highly doubt Beasley ever amounts to anything more than Tim Thomas level but with a real bad attitude.

Beasley simply isn't good and it's not about where he was picked anymore but about the player being weak minded and stupid.

I'd want nothing to do with this guy given his problems. Let some other team try to shape him into a player. Then consider trying to acquire him. We're not an Isiah halfway house anymore. No more headcases and underperforming "talented" players.


It's funny though. Miami (rumor has it) is considering dumping their #2 lotto pick for CAP SPACE. He's underperforming, shows no signs of changing that, has mental issues, and more apparently.

Amare re-ups in Phoenix - and then trades to Miami for Beasley and cap space.

Sounds about right to me. Good. Leave us out of this mess.

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4/25/2010  10:11 AM
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sebstar wrote:Beasley is looking like a classic example of a cat that wont be able to live down where he was selected. He's a good scorer, but he'll always be looked upon as a bust which can wear you down.

His ceiling is David Lee.

You mean like Tim Thomas? Who never let the BUST thing wear him down he always just played his game and rarely complained about anything. Beasley meanwhile is an immature whiny little fool.

His ceiling is David Lee? That's not possible. Beasley sucks and Lee is an All-Star with incredible numbers. I highly doubt Beasley ever amounts to anything more than Tim Thomas level but with a real bad attitude.

Beasley simply isn't good and it's not about where he was picked anymore but about the player being weak minded and stupid.

I'd want nothing to do with this guy given his problems. Let some other team try to shape him into a player. Then consider trying to acquire him. We're not an Isiah halfway house anymore. No more headcases and underperforming "talented" players.


It's funny though. Miami (rumor has it) is considering dumping their #2 lotto pick for CAP SPACE. He's underperforming, shows no signs of changing that, has mental issues, and more apparently.

Amare re-ups in Phoenix - and then trades to Miami for Beasley and cap space.

Sounds about right to me. Good. Leave us out of this mess.

Yep. People need to pull down there rose tinted lenses. You guys judge players based on where hey were picked? With all due respect who gives a flying **** where he was picked? I would rather keep Chandler than add another no defense lazy @$$ diva. NO THANKS!

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4/25/2010  10:25 AM
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SupremeCommander wrote:Okay, I think some clarification on the Beasley-Anthony items are needed

Both were dominant College players. Carmelo got into trouble early in his career by attempting to carry weed onto a plane. Carmelo also was on some No Snitching video were he received alot of Heat. Now Knicks fans love some Carmelo in 2011. Seems people have short memory because I dont recall anyone proclaiming Anthony as anything but a scorer his first few years in the league.

If you gave Michael Beasley free run on a team he'd probably be averaging around 25 PPG.

The only reason Beasley is available is because they want to win now and dont want to give him time to develop.

Carmelo Anthony was a pure SF that willed Cuse to a national championship. Beasley is a tweener who played at K State and didn't accomplish much teamwise in his brief college tenure.

Maybe their backstories are similar (sans the suicide stuff) but there is no way Melo and Beasley are on the same plane as basketball players

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4/25/2010  12:02 PM
Nalod wrote:Seems like a perfect knick once we give him a long term contract for 7 years.

Then he can bring his half moon sad droopy ass eyes (hows that one sebby?)and we can rag on his lack of
defense and low on court IQ!

Few denied Melos talent but his immaturity was in question.

Melo is surrounded on a pretty good team that supports him.

I think we can find fault with anyone but Lebron.

Exactly. People used to say Carmelo was a poor defender. He was not in peak physical condition either. They also said he was a head case. Guys play on the USA team now we cant wait to sign him in 2011.

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4/25/2010  12:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/25/2010  12:31 PM
Cosmic wrote:You mean like Tim Thomas? Who never let the BUST thing wear him down he always just played his game and rarely complained about anything. Beasley meanwhile is an immature whiny little fool.

His ceiling is David Lee? That's not possible. Beasley sucks and Lee is an All-Star with incredible numbers. I highly doubt Beasley ever amounts to anything more than Tim Thomas level but with a real bad attitude.

Beasley simply isn't good and it's not about where he was picked anymore but about the player being weak minded and stupid.

I'd want nothing to do with this guy given his problems. Let some other team try to shape him into a player. Then consider trying to acquire him. We're not an Isiah halfway house anymore. No more headcases and underperforming "talented" players.


It's funny though. Miami (rumor has it) is considering dumping their #2 lotto pick for CAP SPACE. He's underperforming, shows no signs of changing that, has mental issues, and more apparently.

Amare re-ups in Phoenix - and then trades to Miami for Beasley and cap space.

Sounds about right to me. Good. Leave us out of this mess.

- Where are you getting this bad attitude stuff from?

- Beasley sucks yet he put up the same stats during his rookie year as Gallinari did this current season.

- This guy is not Delonte West man. The guy likes to smoke weed. I also assume he didnt start using weed when he got to the NBA. None of these supposed red flags reared there ugly head in college because it wasnt that serious. You think Riley didn't do his research on this kid? Beasley isnt meshing well with Wade and that is all there is too it. Miami has made Beasley a jump shooter. Their offense is watch Wade dribble and wait to catch the ball and jack a shot. I doubt Kevin Durant would be the player he is today if he was drafted by Portland. Talented guys need to be able to make mistakes and learn from them.

- So you want to try to get him after he turned the corner? Does that even make sense. This is like saying wait until Jermaine O'neal became an all star then try to trade for him.

- Miami is willing to trade their #2 for cap space because he doesnt fit and they rather have veterans. This is no different than Boston trading the 5th pick or the Wizards trading the 5th pick last year. They are in win NOW mode. Did the Knicks not trade their lottery pick AND future pick just for CAP SPACE. Miami is doing anything to get Wade guys NOW. They will forfeit their future for the present to achieve that goal.

I doubt you even watch many Heat games. Miami fans are willing to dump Beasley because they have Wade. NY fans will be willing to dump Gallo if we get Lebron and Bosh too.

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