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nixluva
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4/23/2010  4:41 PM
2:04 PM, April 23, 2010 ι By MARC BERMAN

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicksblog/new_knick_walker_says_he_saw_lack_s2QYCEHvT0nSZlfNWuRXeN

Bill Walker, one of the season's pleasant revelations, said he believes one of the reasons for the Knicks' 29-53 final record was a lack of leadership in the locker room.

Walker, who came from Boston in the Nate Robinson trade on Feb. 18, told The Post it was jarring after spending two seasons in Boston with Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen to see none of the Knicks veterans stepping up in the leadership department.

Walker is expected to be part of the Knicks future. His contract for next season becomes guaranteed Aug. 1 and he likely is a keeper unless they need an extra $800,000 in salary-cap space. The Knicks must round out important roster spots with minimum-wage players if they are to fit one or two superstars under the cap.

"What I can tell from over there (in Boston), KG, Paul, and Ray take the initiative every day,'' Walker said. "You just had guys be more accountable for everything. That's where it starts. The head coach can only say so much. You have to have guys in the locker room take what the coach says and makes sure it gets applied. There weren’t enough leaders in the locker room.''

Walker's remark underscores the notion the Knicks were doomed from the start because of a slew of veterans with expiring contracts who knew they weren't part of next season's plans. Walker is – astoundingly so.

"I'm definitely excited to be part of the conversation,'' Walker said. "To be part of a group of guys to come in and change the attitude around here.''

When the trade was made, the coaching staff considered Walker – as one assistant coach said – "an afterthought.'' But his athletic game, improved perimeter shot and good character excited Mike D'Antoni.

Walker averaged 11.9 points on 51.8 percent shooting - 43 percent from downtown.

"It's definitely a good thing to hear,'' Walker said about being mentioned as part of next season. "I feel like this was really my rookie season. And I made up ground quick. I look forward to the offseason, rounding out my game, getting a lot better and having a breakout campaign.''

Walker, whose stock dropped because of two knee surgeries, including one in high school, was a second-round pick of the Celtics in 2008 and played 37 games in two seasons in Boston.

Walker likely will play for the Knicks' summer league team in Las Vegas in July.

"I didn't expect anything,'' D'Antoni said. "I didn't know him. He shot the ball extremely well and was not afraid to take the big shot. We got a good feel for him.''

D'Antoni added Walker must drop weight for his speedball system.

"He's got to get his body right,'' D'Antoni said. "Because of knee injuries and all that, he has too much weight on him.''

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4/23/2010  6:09 PM
It's something many of us have stated before. WE HAVE NO REAL LEADERS. You can't blame MDA for wanting to at least try to have a leader when he stuck with Duhon so long. You gotta think that MDA is thinking, "hey if Duhon should ever get it together and play better then he'd also get his Voice in the lockerroom back. That would give him at least someone to speak for him in the lockerroom and on the floor." Every coach needs a lead player that will carry his mantra to the rest of the players. When you don't have a leader on the team, it just makes everything that much harder.

This is one of the big priorities for Walsh this off season. How does he fill that need for a leader in the lockerroom among the players.

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4/23/2010  7:02 PM
Gallo has flashes of being a leader but needs to do it consistantly and confidantly and needs to be more contagious, the same goes for lee if he is resigned
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4/23/2010  7:16 PM
Loconixfan wrote:Gallo has flashes of being a leader but needs to do it consistantly and confidantly and needs to be more contagious, the same goes for lee if he is resigned

Gallo has a lot of work to do on his mental approach to the game. He has to get slapped in the mouth in order to get going and that's not what Leaders do. I think he's smart enough to be a leader and he has shown passion at times, but he's way to passive out there. I will say that it's to be expected at his age. He's got to transition as Dirk did from scared rookie to a Tough Leader. He's got to demand the ball and tell guys to get out of his way a bit more. No more passing to guys that aren't as good as he is. When that kid is aggressive you really start to see how much talent he has.

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4/23/2010  8:16 PM
nixluva wrote:
Loconixfan wrote:Gallo has flashes of being a leader but needs to do it consistantly and confidantly and needs to be more contagious, the same goes for lee if he is resigned

Gallo has a lot of work to do on his mental approach to the game. He has to get slapped in the mouth in order to get going and that's not what Leaders do. I think he's smart enough to be a leader and he has shown passion at times, but he's way to passive out there. I will say that it's to be expected at his age. He's got to transition as Dirk did from scared rookie to a Tough Leader. He's got to demand the ball and tell guys to get out of his way a bit more. No more passing to guys that aren't as good as he is. When that kid is aggressive you really start to see how much talent he has.

Totally agree nixluva....as always.

just to add....Leadership isn't just guys that demand the ball and take the most shots. Its about controling the huddle and reinforcing what coach wants even if they don't agree. Knicks have no self policing. Guys freelance too much and basically do their own thing. Can't expect a team that knows 80% of them aren't in the plans to be a cohesive force.

That's why I like d'antoni. He expects professionals out there. Guys know what to expect if they are doing the right things. Knicks players expect things to be given and for coaches to baby them. Dantoni ain't babying ****. All the babies are gone now....darko, Hughes, marbs, nate, hill....only curry remains. He'll probably be gone as well. Donnie will get D'antoni some real pros best believe.

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4/23/2010  9:37 PM
Strange how no one is calling on Lee to be a leader? Isn't he the most consistent vet on the team. There is no end to people posting a gazillion times about how he is a regular double double guy and our only all star. So how about he step up and take some responsibility?
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4/23/2010  9:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/23/2010  10:00 PM
loweyecue wrote:Strange how no one is calling on Lee to be a leader? Isn't he the most consistent vet on the team. There is no end to people posting a gazillion times about how he is a regular double double guy and our only all star. So how about he step up and take some responsibility?

I though the same thing. Then again, it might not have been realistic tp expect Lee to step up in that role. He was playing for a contract and the team had declined to make a longterm commitment to him at the start of the season. It would have been hard for him to have an active voice in the locker room when his status on the team was as nebulous as the next guy.

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4/23/2010  10:35 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
loweyecue wrote:Strange how no one is calling on Lee to be a leader? Isn't he the most consistent vet on the team. There is no end to people posting a gazillion times about how he is a regular double double guy and our only all star. So how about he step up and take some responsibility?

I though the same thing. Then again, it might not have been realistic tp expect Lee to step up in that role. He was playing for a contract and the team had declined to make a longterm commitment to him at the start of the season. It would have been hard for him to have an active voice in the locker room when his status on the team was as nebulous as the next guy.

Good point. Lee and Knicks were in status quo till now.
Now both sides have do decide if they want to be together or part ways.
Then we can talk about leadership.
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4/23/2010  10:38 PM
see that is why id like to sign rayray i dont are if we overpay him a bit we need that veteran leadership
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4/23/2010  10:44 PM
unstopaball12 wrote:see that is why id like to sign rayray i dont are if we overpay him a bit we need that veteran leadership

We will be able to get this kind of vets only after the main peaces will be set.
The players of this type are not an idiots to jump into unknown. Their time is short.

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4/23/2010  11:40 PM
I wasn't so much expecting a leader to emerge from the guys with no contract past this season, but maybe Duhon or Lee, cuz they're in a situation to secure a future here if they played well. In truth it would have to be Gallo cuz he's the only one that has a somewhat untouchable tag on him. He's currently our franchise player if we don't add another bigtime player. I do expect him to show a marked improvement next year. I just get that feeling Gallo's gonna be on another level next year. Now being a leader is something we have to hope for, but the guy has the game to be a leader.
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4/24/2010  5:50 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/24/2010  6:14 AM
Do not read too much into this article. This is an old interview with Bill Walker when the Knicks were playing the Celtics. Walker was asked what he thought about the Celtics. He was not trying to trash the Knicks. Read Walker's quotes. Everything else from the title to the rest of the article is Berman's opinion.
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4/24/2010  6:19 AM
It's the point of the article that intrigued me. Walker's assessment is spot on!!! We had no leader and I'm tellin you it cost us a LOT of wins. Games we were in that we didn't pull out cuz of late game mistakes and no one on the floor to take the lead. If you really look at why we lost the last 2 yrs even tho the East is weak enough for mediocre teams to make the playoffs it's been the lack of any leader. DW n MDA knew this which is why they tried to get a vet leader this summer. Kidd would've helped our young players a TON. He's not a get you a win star that takes over a game but he couldve taught our kids how to execute better and play with pride.
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4/24/2010  9:00 AM
It looks like we got very lucky with Walker. I think he's going to be a very good player for us.
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4/24/2010  3:17 PM
Gallo is no leader, him asking to guard the opposing teams best player doesn't matter.

To many blown defensive assignments, bad shots, an silly turnovers, and not one single player in your face letting you know that it's unexceptable .

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4/24/2010  9:23 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Gallo is no leader, him asking to guard the opposing teams best player doesn't matter.

To many blown defensive assignments, bad shots, an silly turnovers, and not one single player in your face letting you know that it's unexceptable .

I don't know if Gallo will get there, but he actually IS a leader and was doing that on his Euro League team. Don't assume cuz he is young that he won't eventually have a bigger voice here. He's already starting to show the beginnings of a leader on this team, but it's a tough thing to do when you're still trying to figure out what to do and how you fit in. He's got a lot on his plate. We'll see how things develop, but I actually do think it's possible that Gallo will be a team leader.

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4/24/2010  11:37 PM
nixluva wrote:
Loconixfan wrote:Gallo has flashes of being a leader but needs to do it consistantly and confidantly and needs to be more contagious, the same goes for lee if he is resigned

Gallo has a lot of work to do on his mental approach to the game. He has to get slapped in the mouth in order to get going and that's not what Leaders do. I think he's smart enough to be a leader and he has shown passion at times, but he's way to passive out there. I will say that it's to be expected at his age. He's got to transition as Dirk did from scared rookie to a Tough Leader. He's got to demand the ball and tell guys to get out of his way a bit more. No more passing to guys that aren't as good as he is. When that kid is aggressive you really start to see how much talent he has.

Great post. Agreed 100%

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4/24/2010  11:41 PM
This is why I would not pay David Lee big time star money. He played great, but his numbers were volume numbers on a bad team. How many games can you name, where David Lee took control of the game down the stretch. Made the right decision, in the right place on defense, put the team on his back mentally/physically. Gallo has potential to be a leader, but you cant' disappear for major stretches of games and be considered a leader. You have to bring it every minute. I actually think the guy that is closest to becoming a true leader is Toney Douglas. He has that Charlie Ward air about him.
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4/25/2010  8:56 AM
There are valid thoughts that Walker's comments are old and from the day he was traded here and not at the conclusion of our season.

It is true this team has no leaders and only losers. That's one big reason we tore down the roster to start over from scratch.

Non-story here.

Berman looking for one last shred of controversy in a season that's long been finished and a situation that has long been determined to be toxic and has a straight forward 2 year long plan applied to ridding this franchise of these problems.

Berman needs to just go to China and report on IdiotBury.

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4/25/2010  9:57 AM
We could of had our Leader in Brandon Jennings, even as a rookie he has the will do motivate his team to win.

This would have been the on the court leader we longed for and we simply overlooked his will to win and be great doing it.

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