JOE JOHNSON - GTFO. 29 years old and is starting to break down. He is not a franchise player and takes way too many bad shots.

CARLOS BOOZER - LOL. It must be a contract year because someone is trying to play defense with little success.

BEN GORDON - The problem here last year was the contract year. So it is all downhill until the next one comes up.

ELTON BRAND - Is he still in the league? Too many injuries and not enough production for his contract.

EMEKA OKAFOR - Never lived up to expectations and now appears willingly to fade into the realm of mediocrity. Even Brown knew.

AMARE STOUDAMIRE - Defense is non-existent. Concern about his ability to fulfill his contract without missing significant time.

CHARLIE VILLANUVEA - Good month. Bad month. So so month. Begin cycle again. No thanks.

TRACY MCGRADY - Is this 2000? Oh no. Well his time has come and gone.

GILBERT ARENAS - Ballhog who lives to take bad shot after bad shot. Besides strict gun control laws in NYC, just ask Plax.

AL HARRINGTON - been there. done that. There not enough shots in the world for Al. He will always need another one.

STEPHEN JACKSON - one of the few guys that Al can actually say hey try passing the ball more without someone laughing.

You guys are welcome to add to the list.

LBJ
Wade
Bosh
Stoudemire
David Lee

I am very happy with I can get one of Bosh or Stoudemire with Lee--who else is there?

I'd add Ray Felton to the list. He's so pedestrian to me.

BRIGGS wrote:How could you say no Amare Stuodemire? He's 4rd on my list and the first two are pipe dreams

LBJ
Wade
Bosh
Stoudemire
David Lee

I am very happy with I can get one of Bosh or Stoudemire with Lee--who else is there?

Amare to me is suited for the east. If I had my choice on keeping Lee or signing Amare. I would keep Lee. Amare is good but he is not capable of holding down a franchise. I'm still waiting for him to keep his promises about improving his post defense. If he brings Nash with him then we can talk.

Kobe
Lebron
Wade
Durant
Melo
CP3

I don't think I missed anyone but basically unless you have one of these guys it's hard to imagine how you win a title. Our goal is to build a title team not just an Also ran. I don't believe Donnie is really targeting the guy on the list Pharz put together.

If we strikeout I can see DW going after Gay, Tyrus and maybe Felton. Guys that won't break the bank and allow us to still go after Melo in 2011.

Pharzeone wrote:Anibus, we traded away our assets to get Lebron or Wade and Bosh to help content for a championship. Not to get back to the level of mediocrity. If you are talking bringing some of those guys in with Lebron and Wade then that's fine. But not as replacements.

So what do we do if we cant get those 3 guys. We dont have the luxury of collecting lottery picks. Dolan cares about selling tickets for high prices. We are spending that money this summer regardless of what Walsh says.

Pharzeone wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:Anibus, we traded away our assets to get Lebron or Wade and Bosh to help content for a championship. Not to get back to the level of mediocrity. If you are talking bringing some of those guys in with Lebron and Wade then that's fine. But not as replacements.

So what do we do if we cant get those 3 guys.

We fire Donnie for his incompetence at trading away picks and we let the next guy bring in young RFA from teams that may not be willing to pay them. Obviously, you are now talking about the summer of 2011 and the hopes to land someone and hope others will opt out of their contract. With Paul and Melo leading the way. But I would in no way settle but I don't think Donnie would have earned to the right to make that call. This is where Isiah went wrong after his decent 03-04 season.

Realistically we are spending summer 2010. If Donnie gets fired the new guy will not be afforded the luxury of trying to attain cap space. You have to overpay for RFA's. Only guy who is a RFA worth paying is Rudy Gay and all signs point toward him getting the max.

We have made our bed and are all in 2010. Any talk of 2011 would not be wise considering Dolan is the owner. If we can get Joe Johnson and Rudy Gay I wont be over joyed but I think we can make the playoffs.

Phoenix has been one of the standout teams in the league after the All-Star break, but there are a couple of red flags for Alvin Gentry's squad headed into the postseason. Kelly Dwyer watched the Suns-Rockets game last night and notes: "Houston was able to walk all over Phoenix's interior, and though the Rockets lost, it's clear that whoever the Suns meet in the playoffs is going to have a field day in the paint as long as Amar'e Stoudemire and Channing Frye are patrolling things."

knicks1248 wrote:Walsh never ever ever ever ever said he would give JJ a MAX contract, the media said that, as a matter of fact from my understanding LBJ and Wade are the only two mak guys out there, Bosh not being able to take the rapts anywhere in is tenure over there, doesn't bode well for him at all.

You could talk all day about the lack of Defense from booze, lee, and amare, but your not gonna get a Ewing, moses, hakeem, D Rob type big man in todays game. The suppose to defensive big man out of the draft this year was (thabeet) sent to the d league.

Even with a guy like Camby who played on two piss poor defensive teams and made them no better has question marks.
Unless there is a defensive scheme that guy's can play in, NBA players are just to good to stop single handed.

Noah (considered a solid defensive player) gets posterized by a guy (wade) 6 to 7 inches shorter then him.

You might say that LBJ and Wade are the only two max guys out there but there are a lot of guys in the league with max contracts. So if Walsh strikes out with LBJ and Wade would I think it is likely that he is going to throw max money at Johnson. The short answer is yeah because as Anibus said he made his bed but I even think Dolan knows that guys like Johnson aren't guys that Walsh talked about in 2008 upon his arrival. He is now talking about simply all-star players. Next it will be all-star considerations as far as money he would throw out. Unless you can work out a blockbuster this summer you will be forced to talk about 2011 unless you just throw money at guys who two years ago wouldn't enter your mind as max money guys.

AnubisADL wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Walsh never ever ever ever ever said he would give JJ a MAX contract, the media said that, as a matter of fact from my understanding LBJ and Wade are the only two mak guys out there, Bosh not being able to take the rapts anywhere in is tenure over there, doesn't bode well for him at all.

You could talk all day about the lack of Defense from booze, lee, and amare, but your not gonna get a Ewing, moses, hakeem, D Rob type big man in todays game. The suppose to defensive big man out of the draft this year was (thabeet) sent to the d league.

Even with a guy like Camby who played on two piss poor defensive teams and made them no better has question marks.
Unless there is a defensive scheme that guy's can play in, NBA players are just to good to stop single handed.

Noah (considered a solid defensive player) gets posterized by a guy (wade) 6 to 7 inches shorter then him.

When has a player ever come to NYC without being overpaid? Atlanta will match a reasonable deal as most teams would. You have to overpay to pry guys away simple as that.

You may have a point, but just think, Walsh just sacrifice 2 seasons to get under the cap to keep ny Flexible, why would he throw it all away on a all star player. Judging the way he handled sessions, j will, stack, duhon, Dlee and nate last summer, walsh give's me no indication that he is going to cough up max money to anybody who isn't worth it just to make us avg.