Pharzeone wrote:WTF! Why would I want a player who couldn't live up to his contract in Detroit. He looks like a guy who is very happy to be paid and the games don't matter. That UCONN class makes me sick. Okafor got his money. His buddy got his money too in Detroit. They all look like they are very content on showing up to games and that's about it.

Season  Team  	G       MPG  	FG%  	3p%  	FT%  	OFF  	DEF 	RPG  	APG  	SPG  	BPG  	TO  	PF 	PPG
Ben G.
09-10 	DET 	59  	27.3 	0.410 	0.307 	0.850 	0.4 	1.5 	1.9 	2.6 	0.7 	0.1 	1.9 	2.4 	13.1
Charlie V.
09-10  	DET  	74    	23.7  	0.438  	0.351  	0.815  	1.1  	3.6  	4.7  	0.6  	0.6  	0.7  	1.0  	2.9  	11.8
Okafor
09-10  	NOH  	79    	28.9  	0.525  	0.000  	0.561  	3.1  	6.0  	9.1  	0.7  	0.7  	1.6  	1.3  	2.7  	10.3

What do you expect to get for Eddy Curry? If we get a major free agent or 2, we should look at acquiring a high-price guy for Curry. A guy or couple of guys that can contribute and help the team win.

That being said I think Detroit would want a bit more in that deal. How about Curry and Chandler for Rip and Daye? I think something like that could work for both teams.

Pharzeone wrote:WTF! Why would I want a player who couldn't live up to his contract in Detroit. He looks like a guy who is very happy to be paid and the games don't matter. That UCONN class makes me sick. Okafor got his money. His buddy got his money too in Detroit. They all look like they are very content on showing up to games and that's about it.

Season  Team  	G       MPG  	FG%  	3p%  	FT%  	OFF  	DEF 	RPG  	APG  	SPG  	BPG  	TO  	PF 	PPG
Ben G.
09-10 	DET 	59  	27.3 	0.410 	0.307 	0.850 	0.4 	1.5 	1.9 	2.6 	0.7 	0.1 	1.9 	2.4 	13.1
Charlie V.
09-10  	DET  	74    	23.7  	0.438  	0.351  	0.815  	1.1  	3.6  	4.7  	0.6  	0.6  	0.7  	1.0  	2.9  	11.8
Okafor
09-10  	NOH  	79    	28.9  	0.525  	0.000  	0.561  	3.1  	6.0  	9.1  	0.7  	0.7  	1.6  	1.3  	2.7  	10.3

I think BG had a bad year. But were looking to improve the outside shooting on the team. I think BG playing in a faster pace system is much more 20-3-3 45% than what he did this year in a slower pace.

if we're going to trade Curry i would much rather go after Okafor, at least he'll provide the shotblocking & defense inside we really need... we don't need any more low % shooting undersized SG's on this team.

masud wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Once our roster is built and the cap utilized as best as possible then we can look to move Curry and go over the cap. BTW I think BenGay sucks.

So basically what I said.

I look at it as we need a 6th man type upgrade and been has been a consistent 20-3-3 player who shoots 45%.

Some people have said Ok4--honestly who would do better here? a 6th man who can avg 20 points off the bench at 45% or Ok 4 who still plays a raw floor game? Id rather spend 3mm on both Manhimi and Baron---their value and combined production at 1/4 of the price of OK4 would make a deal like that insane. We need the explosion off the bench. Good teams have great 6th men.

TMS wrote:our biggest weakness has been a lack of frontcourt defense & shotblocking, not scoring off the bench from a high volume low % shooter... yes, i think OK4 would make much much more sense for our current needs than Ben Gordon... you're the same guy who's been complaining about our lack of interior D all year & you wanna target guys like Ben Gordon this summer... i just don't get that at all.

Emeka Ok4 looks disinterested--his body language this year has been brutal--come on Im his biggest fan --Im not going to jock on EO unless it's warranted. I think Jordan Hill can be better than Ok4--too much expense for what you get back and doesnt fit the system. He's a 6-9 C

Pharzeone wrote:

TMS wrote:our biggest weakness has been a lack of frontcourt defense & shotblocking, not scoring off the bench from a high volume low % shooter... yes, i think OK4 would make much much more sense for our current needs than Ben Gordon... you're the same guy who's been complaining about our lack of interior D all year & you wanna target guys like Ben Gordon this summer... i just don't get that at all.

Okafor is not a good fit on this team. I dare say I don't know where he is really a good fit to be honest. He is transforming into stone. His defense is nowhere near what it was when he entered the league. And he one massive contract for the putrid numbers he puts up.

he's not a guy i'm placing priority on but for a trade of Curry he's a guy i think we can realistically acquire... he does fill a need... i haven't been paying much attention to the Hornets this year but his stats don't look all that bad to me... he's averaging 10 / 9 / 2 in only 29 mpg & shooting 52%... looking at his game logs seems like earlier in the season when the team was still in the playoff hunt he was putting up some impressive statlines including a boatload of double doubles... his production seems to have tailed off in the last month or so after the team was well out of the playoff hunt along with a decrease in average minutes played... could it be that the coach was getting Aaron Gray into the mix for evaluation at that point? i dunno, u probably have seen more Hornets games than i have this season so let me know if that might be an explanation.

if the plan is to extend D Lee (& i am getting more & more the feeling that is exactly what's going to happen this summer) then putting a guy like OK4 next to him would be a solid fit... or he'd make a nice fit with Luis Scola too if u wanted to go that route & save money over signing Lee to a big money deal... with the rest of the cap space you can target a go to scorer on the perimeter or divy it up between a couple role players like Livingston & Lowry, or go after someone like Rudy Gay... this isn't the only plan i'm looking at but it's an option that i think should be considered, especially if we don't land Bosh this summer... or even if u do land Bosh, OK4 would make a nice fit next to him as well IMO.