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Would you trade Eddy Curry and pick 37
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BRIGGS
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4/10/2010  1:20 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/10/2010  1:29 AM
for Ben Gordon, BG would be great here--probably as the Jason terry 6th man role.
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4/10/2010  1:56 AM
BRIGGS wrote:for Ben Gordon, BG would be great here--probably as the Jason terry 6th man role.


Yep, I would do that trade but Detroit would laugh at it. Gordon does much better as a starter.

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4/10/2010  2:08 AM
definitely do it. would love benG on the knicks. no way detroit does it LOL.
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4/10/2010  2:28 AM
BRIGGS wrote:for Ben Gordon, BG would be great here--probably as the Jason terry 6th man role.

Why would Detroit do this?

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4/10/2010  2:36 AM
I'm unsure if y'all have been paying attention to BG this season, but he's been HORRIBLE in Detroit, so they may want to get out of his contract. I'm against that deal because 10 mil+ a season for a bench player is unwise. I'd rather Curry expire and pray Melo want to come East or sign a bench shooter to a more reasonable contract
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4/10/2010  3:38 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/10/2010  3:41 AM
WTF! Why would I want a player who couldn't live up to his contract in Detroit. He looks like a guy who is very happy to be paid and the games don't matter. That UCONN class makes me sick. Okafor got his money. His buddy got his money too in Detroit. They all look like they are very content on showing up to games and that's about it.


Season Team G MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
Ben G.
09-10 DET 59 27.3 0.410 0.307 0.850 0.4 1.5 1.9 2.6 0.7 0.1 1.9 2.4 13.1

Charlie V.
09-10 DET 74 23.7 0.438 0.351 0.815 1.1 3.6 4.7 0.6 0.6 0.7 1.0 2.9 11.8

Okafor
09-10 NOH 79 28.9 0.525 0.000 0.561 3.1 6.0 9.1 0.7 0.7 1.6 1.3 2.7 10.3


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4/10/2010  5:05 AM
Pharzeone wrote:WTF! Why would I want a player who couldn't live up to his contract in Detroit. He looks like a guy who is very happy to be paid and the games don't matter. That UCONN class makes me sick. Okafor got his money. His buddy got his money too in Detroit. They all look like they are very content on showing up to games and that's about it.


Season Team G MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
Ben G.
09-10 DET 59 27.3 0.410 0.307 0.850 0.4 1.5 1.9 2.6 0.7 0.1 1.9 2.4 13.1

Charlie V.
09-10 DET 74 23.7 0.438 0.351 0.815 1.1 3.6 4.7 0.6 0.6 0.7 1.0 2.9 11.8

Okafor
09-10 NOH 79 28.9 0.525 0.000 0.561 3.1 6.0 9.1 0.7 0.7 1.6 1.3 2.7 10.3


What do you expect to get for Eddy Curry? If we get a major free agent or 2, we should look at acquiring a high-price guy for Curry. A guy or couple of guys that can contribute and help the team win.

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4/10/2010  7:29 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:WTF! Why would I want a player who couldn't live up to his contract in Detroit. He looks like a guy who is very happy to be paid and the games don't matter. That UCONN class makes me sick. Okafor got his money. His buddy got his money too in Detroit. They all look like they are very content on showing up to games and that's about it.


Season Team G MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
Ben G.
09-10 DET 59 27.3 0.410 0.307 0.850 0.4 1.5 1.9 2.6 0.7 0.1 1.9 2.4 13.1

Charlie V.
09-10 DET 74 23.7 0.438 0.351 0.815 1.1 3.6 4.7 0.6 0.6 0.7 1.0 2.9 11.8

Okafor
09-10 NOH 79 28.9 0.525 0.000 0.561 3.1 6.0 9.1 0.7 0.7 1.6 1.3 2.7 10.3


What do you expect to get for Eddy Curry? If we get a major free agent or 2, we should look at acquiring a high-price guy for Curry. A guy or couple of guys that can contribute and help the team win.

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4/10/2010  7:46 AM
Childs2Dudley is right this is what we can expect to get for Curry, a good player with a bad contract. This is exactly the kind of deal we should be looking at after we sign our fa's this summer. We'll add on salary sure, but we need to improve the roster as much as possible right now. For all intents and purposes we have no draft picks for the next 3 years. We should be thinking 1st round of the playoffs next year at a minimum. 2nd round of the playoffs the year after, minimum.

That being said I think Detroit would want a bit more in that deal. How about Curry and Chandler for Rip and Daye? I think something like that could work for both teams.

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4/10/2010  8:01 AM
masud wrote:Childs2Dudley is right this is what we can expect to get for Curry, a good player with a bad contract. This is exactly the kind of deal we should be looking at after we sign our fa's this summer. We'll add on salary sure, but we need to improve the roster as much as possible right now. For all intents and purposes we have no draft picks for the next 3 years. We should be thinking 1st round of the playoffs next year at a minimum. 2nd round of the playoffs the year after, minimum.

That being said I think Detroit would want a bit more in that deal. How about Curry and Chandler for Rip and Daye? I think something like that could work for both teams.

Wouldn't it make infinitely more sense to resign Eddie House or pursue Kyle Korver/JJ Reddick/Mike Miller for a reasonable price? Trade Curry if a good opportunity presents itself? Not look to spend every available dollar just because?

Terrible idea to take on crap contracts just because. Why on God's green earth would Donnie Walsh trade an expiring for a heinous contract when he gave up the farm to dump a heinous contract?

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4/10/2010  9:30 AM
Pharzeone wrote:WTF! Why would I want a player who couldn't live up to his contract in Detroit. He looks like a guy who is very happy to be paid and the games don't matter. That UCONN class makes me sick. Okafor got his money. His buddy got his money too in Detroit. They all look like they are very content on showing up to games and that's about it.


Season Team G MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
Ben G.
09-10 DET 59 27.3 0.410 0.307 0.850 0.4 1.5 1.9 2.6 0.7 0.1 1.9 2.4 13.1

Charlie V.
09-10 DET 74 23.7 0.438 0.351 0.815 1.1 3.6 4.7 0.6 0.6 0.7 1.0 2.9 11.8

Okafor
09-10 NOH 79 28.9 0.525 0.000 0.561 3.1 6.0 9.1 0.7 0.7 1.6 1.3 2.7 10.3

I think BG had a bad year. But were looking to improve the outside shooting on the team. I think BG playing in a faster pace system is much more 20-3-3 45% than what he did this year in a slower pace.

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4/10/2010  10:52 AM
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masud wrote:Childs2Dudley is right this is what we can expect to get for Curry, a good player with a bad contract. This is exactly the kind of deal we should be looking at after we sign our fa's this summer. We'll add on salary sure, but we need to improve the roster as much as possible right now. For all intents and purposes we have no draft picks for the next 3 years. We should be thinking 1st round of the playoffs next year at a minimum. 2nd round of the playoffs the year after, minimum.

That being said I think Detroit would want a bit more in that deal. How about Curry and Chandler for Rip and Daye? I think something like that could work for both teams.

Wouldn't it make infinitely more sense to resign Eddie House or pursue Kyle Korver/JJ Reddick/Mike Miller for a reasonable price? Trade Curry if a good opportunity presents itself? Not look to spend every available dollar just because?

Terrible idea to take on crap contracts just because. Why on God's green earth would Donnie Walsh trade an expiring for a heinous contract when he gave up the farm to dump a heinous contract?

I agree with this position. There is mo need for this type trade now. Once our roster is built and the cap utilized as best as possible then we can look to move Curry and go over the cap. BTW I think BenGay sucks.

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4/10/2010  11:01 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/10/2010  11:02 AM
i would rather sign Al Harrington & his 18ppg off the bench back to a 1 year low money deal than to take on Ben Gordon's contract & his 42% FG percentage

if we're going to trade Curry i would much rather go after Okafor, at least he'll provide the shotblocking & defense inside we really need... we don't need any more low % shooting undersized SG's on this team.

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4/10/2010  8:46 PM
loweyecue wrote:Once our roster is built and the cap utilized as best as possible then we can look to move Curry and go over the cap. BTW I think BenGay sucks.

So basically what I said.

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4/10/2010  9:58 PM
masud wrote:
loweyecue wrote:Once our roster is built and the cap utilized as best as possible then we can look to move Curry and go over the cap. BTW I think BenGay sucks.

So basically what I said.

I look at it as we need a 6th man type upgrade and been has been a consistent 20-3-3 player who shoots 45%.

Some people have said Ok4--honestly who would do better here? a 6th man who can avg 20 points off the bench at 45% or Ok 4 who still plays a raw floor game? Id rather spend 3mm on both Manhimi and Baron---their value and combined production at 1/4 of the price of OK4 would make a deal like that insane. We need the explosion off the bench. Good teams have great 6th men.

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4/10/2010  10:01 PM
our biggest weakness has been a lack of frontcourt defense & shotblocking, not scoring off the bench from a high volume low % shooter... yes, i think OK4 would make much much more sense for our current needs than Ben Gordon... you're the same guy who's been complaining about our lack of interior D all year & you wanna target guys like Ben Gordon this summer... i just don't get that at all.
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4/10/2010  10:16 PM
TMS wrote:our biggest weakness has been a lack of frontcourt defense & shotblocking, not scoring off the bench from a high volume low % shooter... yes, i think OK4 would make much much more sense for our current needs than Ben Gordon... you're the same guy who's been complaining about our lack of interior D all year & you wanna target guys like Ben Gordon this summer... i just don't get that at all.

Emeka Ok4 looks disinterested--his body language this year has been brutal--come on Im his biggest fan --Im not going to jock on EO unless it's warranted. I think Jordan Hill can be better than Ok4--too much expense for what you get back and doesnt fit the system. He's a 6-9 C

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4/10/2010  10:17 PM
TMS wrote:our biggest weakness has been a lack of frontcourt defense & shotblocking, not scoring off the bench from a high volume low % shooter... yes, i think OK4 would make much much more sense for our current needs than Ben Gordon... you're the same guy who's been complaining about our lack of interior D all year & you wanna target guys like Ben Gordon this summer... i just don't get that at all.

Okafor is not a good fit on this team. I dare say I don't know where he is really a good fit to be honest. He is transforming into stone. His defense is nowhere near what it was when he entered the league. And he one massive contract for the putrid numbers he puts up.

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4/10/2010  10:37 PM
Pharzeone wrote:
TMS wrote:our biggest weakness has been a lack of frontcourt defense & shotblocking, not scoring off the bench from a high volume low % shooter... yes, i think OK4 would make much much more sense for our current needs than Ben Gordon... you're the same guy who's been complaining about our lack of interior D all year & you wanna target guys like Ben Gordon this summer... i just don't get that at all.

Okafor is not a good fit on this team. I dare say I don't know where he is really a good fit to be honest. He is transforming into stone. His defense is nowhere near what it was when he entered the league. And he one massive contract for the putrid numbers he puts up.

he's not a guy i'm placing priority on but for a trade of Curry he's a guy i think we can realistically acquire... he does fill a need... i haven't been paying much attention to the Hornets this year but his stats don't look all that bad to me... he's averaging 10 / 9 / 2 in only 29 mpg & shooting 52%... looking at his game logs seems like earlier in the season when the team was still in the playoff hunt he was putting up some impressive statlines including a boatload of double doubles... his production seems to have tailed off in the last month or so after the team was well out of the playoff hunt along with a decrease in average minutes played... could it be that the coach was getting Aaron Gray into the mix for evaluation at that point? i dunno, u probably have seen more Hornets games than i have this season so let me know if that might be an explanation.

if the plan is to extend D Lee (& i am getting more & more the feeling that is exactly what's going to happen this summer) then putting a guy like OK4 next to him would be a solid fit... or he'd make a nice fit with Luis Scola too if u wanted to go that route & save money over signing Lee to a big money deal... with the rest of the cap space you can target a go to scorer on the perimeter or divy it up between a couple role players like Livingston & Lowry, or go after someone like Rudy Gay... this isn't the only plan i'm looking at but it's an option that i think should be considered, especially if we don't land Bosh this summer... or even if u do land Bosh, OK4 would make a nice fit next to him as well IMO.

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4/10/2010  10:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/10/2010  11:00 PM
Eddy Curry is USELESS. Therefore any starter quality player we can get for him is GREAT.
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