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4/1/2010  2:32 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/1/2010  2:38 PM
Q: First choice to stay a Sun?

"It's always great to stay"

Q: Do you agree that Mike D'Antoni not emphasizing defense set you back:

"I think so. With us not really focused defensively and not teaching defense a lot of the finger pointing was towards me saying that I wasn't a good defensive player but I just was never taught defensive strategy so it really was kind of unfair to put the blame on me. I think over time, it shows now that we are a better defensive team, we got guys that can play defense and my defense is not really that bad."


Q: Do you enjoy this brand of basketball more than D'Antoni seven seconds or less?

"With this offense we are not just going to shoot any shots, we're not going to shot bad shots. We're to make sure we get quality shots. We're going to make sure we get good looks at the basket. Sometimes in Seven Seconds or Less you shoot up a couple of shots and you get in the habit of shooting bad shots and kind of bits you sometimes in the playoffs. In this offense we are more humble out there. We know what's good shots and when to take them."

Source(w/AUDIO): http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2010/3/30/1396888/amare-stoudemire-thinks-you-are

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Interview is from March 30th, 2010. He makes his comments around the 6 minute mark. Basically sticks the shiv in D'Antoni.

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4/1/2010  2:32 PM
April fools, right?
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4/1/2010  2:37 PM
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4/1/2010  2:37 PM
not April Fool's... listen to the interview on the link provided
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4/1/2010  2:48 PM
Amare cries an awful lot. Dude needs to STFU.
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4/1/2010  3:04 PM
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4/1/2010  3:41 PM
I saw this article a few days ago and kinda read it didn't think much of it, because when push comes to shove, everybody on the olympic team raved about MDA, and it's no secret that D is not MDA's main fortay. He does have a brilliant basketball mind and from what I have learned about his system is that, when it's run efficient there isn't a defense that can stop it consistently
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4/1/2010  3:45 PM
the spurs defense stopped it 3 times
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4/1/2010  3:48 PM
knicks1248 wrote:I saw this article a few days ago and kinda read it didn't think much of it, because when push comes to shove, everybody on the olympic team raved about MDA, and it's no secret that D is not MDA's main fortay. He does have a brilliant basketball mind and from what I have learned about his system is that, when it's run efficient there isn't a defense that can stop it consistently

What do you expect them to say when they are going to see him again. Most NBA players compliment coaches they played for and won under. All the compliments for MDA emphasize offense and that is all.

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4/1/2010  4:31 PM
Well they weren't raving about any other coach on the staff, and I'm not saying that it's ok that he doesnt make defense a prority. You know when someone says..." That was great defense but better offense" Think MDA
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4/1/2010  4:49 PM
TMS wrote:the spurs defense stopped it 3 times

The Spurs just have their number and were the BEST defensive team in the league. Some teams are a bad matchup for a team and I think they really had the key to how to stop the Suns. It doesn't mean that we'll face the same situation here with our team. We can win playing this style. I'd sign up for a couple of ECF appearances right now.

One thing i'd like to know is how do you beat teams to the tune of 62 wins if you aren't playing any D? What was Kobe so upset about if the Suns weren't playing D and trying to get up into their man? How can any team be great defensively with Nash and Amare right up the middle of the defense? Amare can talk crap about no focus on D, but I don't see any of the other players taking it easy on D as he did year after year. There seemed to be a clear desire to want to defend when Bell, Marion, Diaw and KT were playing.

How come Amare seemed to miss the meeting they all went to? It's a copout when a player says he didn't know about playing D, cuz of his coaches. I mean really!!! You think they had practices with 100% offense and never mentioned how they were going to try and defend teams? Then how come they were never a bad defensive team? Surely that team would be in the bottom half of the league with no emphasis on D at all.

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nixluva wrote:
TMS wrote:the spurs defense stopped it 3 times

The Spurs just have their number and were the BEST defensive team in the league. Some teams are a bad matchup for a team and I think they really had the key to how to stop the Suns. It doesn't mean that we'll face the same situation here with our team. We can win playing this style. I'd sign up for a couple of ECF appearances right now.

One thing i'd like to know is how do you beat teams to the tune of 62 wins if you aren't playing any D? What was Kobe so upset about if the Suns weren't playing D and trying to get up into their man? How can any team be great defensively with Nash and Amare right up the middle of the defense? Amare can talk crap about no focus on D, but I don't see any of the other players taking it easy on D as he did year after year. There seemed to be a clear desire to want to defend when Bell, Marion, Diaw and KT were playing.

How come Amare seemed to miss the meeting they all went to? It's a copout when a player says he didn't know about playing D, cuz of his coaches. I mean really!!! You think they had practices with 100% offense and never mentioned how they were going to try and defend teams? Then how come they were never a bad defensive team? Surely that team would be in the bottom half of the league with no emphasis on D at all.

defense wins championships... i run down the list of every team that's won a title in modern times & there isn't one that didn't play terrific team defense to my knowledge... there hasn't been a single team that runs a gimmick offense like D'Antoni's that has ever won a championship ring as far as i am aware.

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4/1/2010  5:07 PM
nixluva wrote:
TMS wrote:the spurs defense stopped it 3 times

The Spurs just have their number and were the BEST defensive team in the league. Some teams are a bad matchup for a team and I think they really had the key to how to stop the Suns. It doesn't mean that we'll face the same situation here with our team. We can win playing this style. I'd sign up for a couple of ECF appearances right now.

One thing i'd like to know is how do you beat teams to the tune of 62 wins if you aren't playing any D? What was Kobe so upset about if the Suns weren't playing D and trying to get up into their man? How can any team be great defensively with Nash and Amare right up the middle of the defense? Amare can talk crap about no focus on D, but I don't see any of the other players taking it easy on D as he did year after year. There seemed to be a clear desire to want to defend when Bell, Marion, Diaw and KT were playing.

How come Amare seemed to miss the meeting they all went to? It's a copout when a player says he didn't know about playing D, cuz of his coaches. I mean really!!! You think they had practices with 100% offense and never mentioned how they were going to try and defend teams? Then how come they were never a bad defensive team? Surely that team would be in the bottom half of the league with no emphasis on D at all.

Take a look at Don Nelson. We know he doesn't preach defense and he made it to the playoffs with the Dallas and Golden State. If you have enough talent you can do serious damage during the season and first round of the playoffs. Problem is you will get exposed in the higher rounds and you need serious talent at dam near every starting position.

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4/1/2010  5:24 PM
TMS wrote:
nixluva wrote:
TMS wrote:the spurs defense stopped it 3 times

The Spurs just have their number and were the BEST defensive team in the league. Some teams are a bad matchup for a team and I think they really had the key to how to stop the Suns. It doesn't mean that we'll face the same situation here with our team. We can win playing this style. I'd sign up for a couple of ECF appearances right now.

One thing i'd like to know is how do you beat teams to the tune of 62 wins if you aren't playing any D? What was Kobe so upset about if the Suns weren't playing D and trying to get up into their man? How can any team be great defensively with Nash and Amare right up the middle of the defense? Amare can talk crap about no focus on D, but I don't see any of the other players taking it easy on D as he did year after year. There seemed to be a clear desire to want to defend when Bell, Marion, Diaw and KT were playing.

How come Amare seemed to miss the meeting they all went to? It's a copout when a player says he didn't know about playing D, cuz of his coaches. I mean really!!! You think they had practices with 100% offense and never mentioned how they were going to try and defend teams? Then how come they were never a bad defensive team? Surely that team would be in the bottom half of the league with no emphasis on D at all.

defense wins championships... i run down the list of every team that's won a title in modern times & there isn't one that didn't play terrific team defense to my knowledge... there hasn't been a single team that runs a gimmick offense like D'Antoni's that has ever won a championship ring as far as i am aware.

Thats such a overrated statement, I do believe you have to play defense no matter what,and I do believe that with the right group of guys and the right system your gonna win period. you can be a good defense team and a great offensive team and still win.

Take a look at the packers , we had the #1 defense in the nfl going into that first rnd against arizona and that turned into a classic shoot out and a loss.

The suns weren't a awful defensive team, they just put up so many points in a hurry that when you look at the final score and you see 120-108 right away you think...wow these guys give up a 108 point son a regular, but hey they score 120 on a regular, so how is that a bad thing

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I do believe that with the right group of guys and the right system your gonna win period.

the question is does MDA preach the right system to win championships... he already had the absolute perfect team to run his system in Phoenix & still couldn't get it done... so what makes u think he'll be able to do it in NY?

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4/1/2010  5:43 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
TMS wrote:
nixluva wrote:
TMS wrote:the spurs defense stopped it 3 times

The Spurs just have their number and were the BEST defensive team in the league. Some teams are a bad matchup for a team and I think they really had the key to how to stop the Suns. It doesn't mean that we'll face the same situation here with our team. We can win playing this style. I'd sign up for a couple of ECF appearances right now.

One thing i'd like to know is how do you beat teams to the tune of 62 wins if you aren't playing any D? What was Kobe so upset about if the Suns weren't playing D and trying to get up into their man? How can any team be great defensively with Nash and Amare right up the middle of the defense? Amare can talk crap about no focus on D, but I don't see any of the other players taking it easy on D as he did year after year. There seemed to be a clear desire to want to defend when Bell, Marion, Diaw and KT were playing.

How come Amare seemed to miss the meeting they all went to? It's a copout when a player says he didn't know about playing D, cuz of his coaches. I mean really!!! You think they had practices with 100% offense and never mentioned how they were going to try and defend teams? Then how come they were never a bad defensive team? Surely that team would be in the bottom half of the league with no emphasis on D at all.

defense wins championships... i run down the list of every team that's won a title in modern times & there isn't one that didn't play terrific team defense to my knowledge... there hasn't been a single team that runs a gimmick offense like D'Antoni's that has ever won a championship ring as far as i am aware.

Thats such a overrated statement, I do believe you have to play defense no matter what,and I do believe that with the right group of guys and the right system your gonna win period. you can be a good defense team and a great offensive team and still win.

Take a look at the packers , we had the #1 defense in the nfl going into that first rnd against arizona and that turned into a classic shoot out and a loss.

The suns weren't a awful defensive team, they just put up so many points in a hurry that when you look at the final score and you see 120-108 right away you think...wow these guys give up a 108 point son a regular, but hey they score 120 on a regular, so how is that a bad thing

why compare a diff sport/playoff system to the nba? the nba, you can mess up 3 games in a row and still have a chance to advance, you screw up 1 time in the nfl and you are done (playoffs that is).

for the bold part -- teams that make an effort to _play d/emphasize d_ MAY not have as hard a time turning up the defensive pressure as needed compared to ones that dont emphasize d.

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4/1/2010  6:00 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
TMS wrote:
nixluva wrote:
TMS wrote:the spurs defense stopped it 3 times

The Spurs just have their number and were the BEST defensive team in the league. Some teams are a bad matchup for a team and I think they really had the key to how to stop the Suns. It doesn't mean that we'll face the same situation here with our team. We can win playing this style. I'd sign up for a couple of ECF appearances right now.

One thing i'd like to know is how do you beat teams to the tune of 62 wins if you aren't playing any D? What was Kobe so upset about if the Suns weren't playing D and trying to get up into their man? How can any team be great defensively with Nash and Amare right up the middle of the defense? Amare can talk crap about no focus on D, but I don't see any of the other players taking it easy on D as he did year after year. There seemed to be a clear desire to want to defend when Bell, Marion, Diaw and KT were playing.

How come Amare seemed to miss the meeting they all went to? It's a copout when a player says he didn't know about playing D, cuz of his coaches. I mean really!!! You think they had practices with 100% offense and never mentioned how they were going to try and defend teams? Then how come they were never a bad defensive team? Surely that team would be in the bottom half of the league with no emphasis on D at all.

defense wins championships... i run down the list of every team that's won a title in modern times & there isn't one that didn't play terrific team defense to my knowledge... there hasn't been a single team that runs a gimmick offense like D'Antoni's that has ever won a championship ring as far as i am aware.

Thats such a overrated statement, I do believe you have to play defense no matter what,and I do believe that with the right group of guys and the right system your gonna win period. you can be a good defense team and a great offensive team and still win.

Take a look at the packers , we had the #1 defense in the nfl going into that first rnd against arizona and that turned into a classic shoot out and a loss.

The suns weren't a awful defensive team, they just put up so many points in a hurry that when you look at the final score and you see 120-108 right away you think...wow these guys give up a 108 point son a regular, but hey they score 120 on a regular, so how is that a bad thing


I think what is bad about D'Antoni is that he does not coach a complete game. You can't expect to have any success with a marginal roster if you only focus on one aspect of the game. An opposing coach came out this year and said that D'Antoni doesn't watch tapes of upcoming opponents to prepare his team and make adjustments. He said that the Knicks would not be ready for the new plays they had been running on offense for several weeks because D'Antoni doesn't watch game tapes. It was never refuted. Ex Players have said D'Antoni didn't coach defense. Grant Hill said that the Suns practices with D'Antoni sometimes went as long as 20 minutes. You can't coach or game plan for opponents in 20 minutes.
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4/1/2010  6:53 PM
TMS wrote:
I do believe that with the right group of guys and the right system your gonna win period.

the question is does MDA preach the right system to win championships... he already had the absolute perfect team to run his system in Phoenix & still couldn't get it done... so what makes u think he'll be able to do it in NY?


How is Raja Bell, Diaw, KT and no Amare the perfect team to run his system? The only thing that really stood out on that team was Nash & Marion and he still found a way for those players to excel and win and get to the WCF's. If they didn't play any D, there's no way you get thru the tough Western Conf with that team. JUST CUT THE CRAP AND GIVE THE MAN HIS CREDIT!!! Make the case that that team was a great team!!!
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4/1/2010  7:20 PM
Last years Champion (Lakers) were a middle of the pack defensive team if my memeory serves me correctly. I believe they were 14 or 15th defensively. MDA's Suns were never the worse teams defensively, usually around 15 and 16th in the league. You dont need to be a defensive juggernaut to win a chip, just need to get key stops down the stretch of games. And it doesn't hurt to have to have the best player in the league on your team aswell.

Talk all you want about the Spurs stopping the Suns, but at the end of the day Duncan was always the best payer on the court despite Nash's awards. The best payer usually wins.

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4/1/2010  7:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/1/2010  7:47 PM
nixluva wrote:
TMS wrote:
I do believe that with the right group of guys and the right system your gonna win period.

the question is does MDA preach the right system to win championships... he already had the absolute perfect team to run his system in Phoenix & still couldn't get it done... so what makes u think he'll be able to do it in NY?


How is Raja Bell, Diaw, KT and no Amare the perfect team to run his system? The only thing that really stood out on that team was Nash & Marion and he still found a way for those players to excel and win and get to the WCF's. If they didn't play any D, there's no way you get thru the tough Western Conf with that team. JUST CUT THE CRAP AND GIVE THE MAN HIS CREDIT!!! Make the case that that team was a great team!!!

i was referring to his '05 team of Nash, Amare, Marion, Joe Johnson, Barbosa, Jim Jackson, Q Rich, Jake Voskuhl, Bo Outlaw & Caparkaba that got completely smoked in the WCF by the Spurs... if u don't consider that the perfect team to run his system i challenge u to come up with something better that's even remotely realistic.

please spare me the CUT THE CRAP nonsense & stop taking such a personal affront every time we have these discussions... it's getting highly annoying.

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