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earthmansurfer
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3/29/2010  5:25 PM
We already have enough salary cap for 2 max's. There has got to be players making close to what Curry makes that teams are looking to unload for an expiring (Curry). I have a feeling we will look into this this summer. Also, the bonus with Curry is that he might not play and insurance will foot the bill.

I really doubt we are JUST going to sign players outright. We have a lot of flexibility regarding trades due to our cap space and the ASSet of Curry's expiring contract, not to mention other players. We also have Lee as an asset, though I want him to stay.

I think we might be in for a shock this summer after we sign that first guy. And if that first guy is Bron, then we might even move Chandler... If we don't sign that first guy, there is always baseball.

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3/29/2010  6:31 PM
Curry's contract needs to expire here. He is the ticket for the 2011 FA market. We should be able to sign another max FA if we only sign 1 this year.
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3/29/2010  6:39 PM
his contract may be used in a bosh + hedo s&t...
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3/29/2010  8:48 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:We already have enough salary cap for 2 max's. There has got to be players making close to what Curry makes that teams are looking to unload for an expiring (Curry). I have a feeling we will look into this this summer. Also, the bonus with Curry is that he might not play and insurance will foot the bill.

I really doubt we are JUST going to sign players outright. We have a lot of flexibility regarding trades due to our cap space and the ASSet of Curry's expiring contract, not to mention other players. We also have Lee as an asset, though I want him to stay.

I think we might be in for a shock this summer after we sign that first guy. And if that first guy is Bron, then we might even move Chandler... If we don't sign that first guy, there is always baseball.

If we sign 'Bron, we SHOULD trade Chandler for pieces we need (e.g., Rubio's rights).
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3/29/2010  8:49 PM
djsunyc wrote:his contract may be used in a bosh + hedo s&t...

How would this work?
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3/29/2010  9:47 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/29/2010  9:48 PM
IMO Curry's expiring can probably be traded for guys like Arenas, Brand, Rashard Lewis... if you add another asset & New Orleans is desperate enough to unload salary, then possibly u might be able to land an Emeka Okafor, or maybe Andre Iguodala if you threw in someone like Wilson... but i wouldn't trade for any of those guys other than Okafor tho... these are all the types of contracts we've been acquiring all through the Layden & Isiah years & hasn't gotten this franchise anywhere.
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3/29/2010  11:45 PM
Big fat asset!!! Waste of space....
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3/30/2010  10:05 AM
Moonangie wrote:
djsunyc wrote:his contract may be used in a bosh + hedo s&t...

How would this work?

curry + gallo/chandler for bosh + hedo

curry cancels out hedo's deal and the knicks are under the cap to send back an exception for bosh.

but personally, if bosh leaves toronto, i don't see him in ny.
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3/30/2010  10:19 AM
Moonangie wrote:
djsunyc wrote:his contract may be used in a bosh + hedo s&t...

How would this work?

In Toronto Dreamland that's where. Then we're stuck with a drunk drug addicted loser for four more years in Hedo who got his contract and hasn't given a crap about his job since.

But how would it work? It can't if we get two max players this summer. If we got 1 max player we could use curry to S&T for Bosh/Hedo and absorb the extra 17M in salary that comes with that deal in our second max slot.

Why would we do that? We would if we got LBJ, Bosh, Hedo as the third sidekick and pray he starts giving a crap again.

I still say we try to get 1max (or near max) and retain Lee this season and go after that third big name the following summer.

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3/30/2010  10:20 AM
djsunyc wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
djsunyc wrote:his contract may be used in a bosh + hedo s&t...

How would this work?

curry + gallo/chandler for bosh + hedo

curry cancels out hedo's deal and the knicks are under the cap to send back an exception for bosh.

but personally, if bosh leaves toronto, i don't see him in ny.

No F'in way.

Gallo and Chandler for Bosh alone = NO F'IN WAY. And you want us to take Hedo and his bum lazy drunk high ass with it?

LMFAO. You're right. You have gone pure Raptor fan/troll on us these days!

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3/30/2010  10:23 AM
the "/" means "or"...
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3/30/2010  10:23 AM
Cosmic wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
djsunyc wrote:his contract may be used in a bosh + hedo s&t...

How would this work?

In Toronto Dreamland that's where. Then we're stuck with a drunk drug addicted loser for four more years in Hedo who got his contract and hasn't given a crap about his job since.

But how would it work? It can't if we get two max players this summer. If we got 1 max player we could use curry to S&T for Bosh/Hedo and absorb the extra 17M in salary that comes with that deal in our second max slot.

Why would we do that? We would if we got LBJ, Bosh, Hedo as the third sidekick and pray he starts giving a crap again.

I still say we try to get 1max (or near max) and retain Lee this season and go after that third big name the following summer.

where's the drunk drug addicted info coming from?
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3/30/2010  10:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/30/2010  10:35 AM
djsunyc wrote:his contract may be used in a bosh + hedo s&t...

I think Toronto is realizing the Hedo deal was bad. A Curry/Lee trade for Bosh and Hedo would help both teams, if we also got Lebron.

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3/30/2010  10:51 AM
Marv wrote:
Cosmic wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
djsunyc wrote:his contract may be used in a bosh + hedo s&t...

How would this work?

In Toronto Dreamland that's where. Then we're stuck with a drunk drug addicted loser for four more years in Hedo who got his contract and hasn't given a crap about his job since.

But how would it work? It can't if we get two max players this summer. If we got 1 max player we could use curry to S&T for Bosh/Hedo and absorb the extra 17M in salary that comes with that deal in our second max slot.

Why would we do that? We would if we got LBJ, Bosh, Hedo as the third sidekick and pray he starts giving a crap again.

I still say we try to get 1max (or near max) and retain Lee this season and go after that third big name the following summer.

where's the drunk drug addicted info coming from?

Dude's been spotted in bars nightly and he always has this tired lazy mess of a look about him. Add in his recent horrible, purposefully horrible, play, and his comments "Oh well season's over in 10 games anyway." <----team actually still in the playoff hunt! --- and it doesn't take much to realize this guy is MESSED UP.

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3/30/2010  11:40 AM
the most you can hope for is the Knicks buy a draft pick or two from teams that either dont want the cap hold or dont need to add the 3 year contract associated with a later first rounder. Than package those picks with Curry for someone like Diaw. That would save the Knicks $2mm this year and the BoobCats $9mm next year.

If we paid $3mm for a late first rounder and $2mm for a 2nd rounder and $3mm to the Cats in 'cash considerations' it could cost us $8mm in cash to trade Curry but thats one scenario I could envision

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3/30/2010  12:32 PM
How about this trade. This Saves NO 34 plus millions exchanges on young asset for another and allows them to make a free agent signing in the future.

Eddy Curry
Wilson Chandler


Emeka Okafor (3 years at 34 remaining)
Darren Collison

Let's say we get Lee to take 10 million a year. That leaves 7 million to spend. How much money could Ginobli make in NY from say Nike and a couple of additional sponsors. I think $3 million is very realistic a year considering his international ties and new york diversity. So let's say we give him a 3 year deal at $21 million? The Spurs are not contenders anymore and can't really do anything via trade thanks to the Jefferson deal.

Collison-Douglas
Manu
James
Gallo
Lee-Okafur

Would we be able to pull something like that off?
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3/30/2010  1:05 PM
I dont see that. OK4 is a good player and Collison is a very good player. They are getting Chandler back (who will need to be resigned) and fat Eddie. They can do better.

I do think if they are losing next Feb that we could get Ok4 for Eddie's expiring. Maybe give them a couple 2nd rounders or such

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3/30/2010  1:20 PM
Marv wrote:
Cosmic wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
djsunyc wrote:his contract may be used in a bosh + hedo s&t...

How would this work?

In Toronto Dreamland that's where. Then we're stuck with a drunk drug addicted loser for four more years in Hedo who got his contract and hasn't given a crap about his job since.

But how would it work? It can't if we get two max players this summer. If we got 1 max player we could use curry to S&T for Bosh/Hedo and absorb the extra 17M in salary that comes with that deal in our second max slot.

Why would we do that? We would if we got LBJ, Bosh, Hedo as the third sidekick and pray he starts giving a crap again.

I still say we try to get 1max (or near max) and retain Lee this season and go after that third big name the following summer.

where's the drunk drug addicted info coming from?

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3/30/2010  2:21 PM
MS wrote:How about this trade. This Saves NO 34 plus millions exchanges on young asset for another and allows them to make a free agent signing in the future.

Eddy Curry
Wilson Chandler


Emeka Okafor (3 years at 34 remaining)
Darren Collison

Let's say we get Lee to take 10 million a year. That leaves 7 million to spend. How much money could Ginobli make in NY from say Nike and a couple of additional sponsors. I think $3 million is very realistic a year considering his international ties and new york diversity. So let's say we give him a 3 year deal at $21 million? The Spurs are not contenders anymore and can't really do anything via trade thanks to the Jefferson deal.

Collison-Douglas
Manu
James
Gallo
Lee-Okafur

Would we be able to pull something like that off?

we won't get Collison unless we're willing to give up Gallo... i don't see either team doing it at this point... Gallo is MDA's pet project & Collison is CP3's heir apparent.

i think u could get possibly Okafor for Curry & another asset (cash? Walker or Giddens or 2nd round pick?) but that would depend on how desperate NO is to unload salary... if they draft a C in this year's bigman laden draft, i can see them being open to the idea of dumping Okafor's contract.

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3/30/2010  3:52 PM
Dealing with NO is how do they sell it to the fans.

keeping CP3 would have to sacrifice.

You deal with NO from a position of stregth. And Gallo ain't going nowhere.

Peja's contract is whats killing them!
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