fishmike wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:Let's go easy there. TD is a better defensive player and you can make the case that he's better at scoring the ball at this point in their careers. But Jennings is by far a better playmaker, which is the number one requirement of a point guard, and he's three years younger. I'm going to have to place my chips on Jennings at this point.

I have curbed enthusiasm on both. Douglas is more mature so his learning curve in the NBA isnt as great. He's bigger and stronger than Jennings. He's a more polished BB player. 4 years at Florida. He was a featured scorer and the ACC defensive player of the year. Every year you see 4 year college players slip down because they dont have a 40 inch vert or a 7'4 wingspan but there are a ton of good players in the NBA that werent lotto picks. Hopefully we have 2 when we resign Lee.

Jennings shoots a lot of 3s, but his overall shooting % for the year has been dropping month by month and is now 37%. He does NOT have an NBA. He's 6'1 (maybe) and about 160 pounds. He's got a Jamal Crawford frame minus a couple inches. He's also not the playmaker people here make him out to be. He makes some really good passes and collects his assists but he's setting up guys off his own scoring, much like Marbury used to.

I would say Jennings has more raw talent and potential, but Douglas is a better player right now. Douglas is also clearly dedicated and a work horse.

Douglas definatly has Rondo type potential. For me, thats the hope. I think Jennings has Nash type potential, but has much longer to go before reaching it.

I'm very happy w/ Douglas. We needed to see that Walsh could find players like this and that bodes well. If I had to pick though you have to take Jennings.

Nice points. And, it begs the question, where would this team be if Douglas had gotten minutes this year? I say he might actually be in the top 5 for rookies, (big if), if his numbers could stay at around 20ppg with 5 assists per game and low T.O, not to mention his GREAT D. I'm sure his pg skills will improve. He is just too hard a worker. He needs to learn more to kick it out on those drives, but he is still learning to let go of that scorers mentality. It actually hasn't hurt him much, but did at the end of the last game.

We might really have a pg for next year. When you think about it, he is the perfect pg to have with Lebron. Another scorer that can bring the ball up and greatly slow down the opposing teams pg. That would be two great defensive players on our team...

Could someone do a comparison? Defense, quickness, passing, running team, strength, shooting? what's left?

Who would be more attractive for the top free agents? Does potential win over a proven commodity (in college) and defense?

martin wrote:Haven't seen Jennings play at all this year.

Could someone do a comparison? Defense, quickness, passing, running team, strength, shooting? what's left?

Who would be more attractive for the top free agents? Does potential win over a proven commodity (in college) and defense?

Others will say more than I can but I can at least comment:

Defense - Hands down Douglas is better. Jennings is very quick but doesn't have the body which is required. He will get a fair amount of steals though.
Quickness - Jennings is quicker but Douglas is very quick. I wouldn't weigh this one on it's own too much.
Passing - Jennings is better with better floor vision. I don't think there is any argument here.
Running a team - I would say Jennings is better since he can pass and see's the floor better, but when you consider the whole package Douglas can really do a lot to help his team. Jennings is clearly the more traditional pg and Douglas the combo.
Strength - Douglas hands down and embarrassingly so.
Shooting - See last point.
Maturity - Douglas is more mature but Jennings has proven critics wrong by being pretty good this year.
Basketball IQ - I haven't see Jennings play enough to comment. Douglas clearly has bbiq but he's still learning the pg role.

BRIGGS wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:Weren't you saying Douglas was nothing special when he was drafted?

Yes I did and I was wrong.

Andrew wrote:Kudos to BRIGGS for calling himself out!

first and last time EVER.

earthmansurfer wrote:

martin wrote:Haven't seen Jennings play at all this year.

Could someone do a comparison? Defense, quickness, passing, running team, strength, shooting? what's left?

Who would be more attractive for the top free agents? Does potential win over a proven commodity (in college) and defense?

Others will say more than I can but I can at least comment:

Defense - Hands down Douglas is better. Jennings is very quick but doesn't have the body which is required. He will get a fair amount of steals though.
Quickness - Jennings is quicker but Douglas is very quick. I wouldn't weigh this one on it's own too much.
Passing - Jennings is better with better floor vision. I don't think there is any argument here.
Running a team - I would say Jennings is better since he can pass and see's the floor better, but when you consider the whole package Douglas can really do a lot to help his team. Jennings is clearly the more traditional pg and Douglas the combo.
Strength - Douglas hands down and embarrassingly so.
Shooting - See last point.
Maturity - Douglas is more mature but Jennings has proven critics wrong by being pretty good this year.
Basketball IQ - I haven't see Jennings play enough to comment. Douglas clearly has bbiq but he's still learning the pg role.

Pretty fair analysis, IMO.

Should we make a big deal about their 4 year age gap?

Paladin55 wrote:Should we make a big deal about their 4 year age gap?

for me, potential is only as good as you fill it. One is younger but the other really has not played much PG, so age (perhaps) is not as much a factor.