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BasketballJones
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The house plans to vote on the health care bill tomorrow (Sunday).

Do you think it will pass?

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BasketballJones
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3/21/2010  4:56 PM
Looks like it's gonna pass.
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3/21/2010  5:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/21/2010  5:25 PM
BasketballJones wrote:Looks like it's gonna pass.

I thought you were here to post facetious comments? Did you log into the wrong site?

RIP Crushalot😞
BasketballJones
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3/21/2010  6:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/21/2010  6:57 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:Looks like it's gonna pass.

I thought you were here to post facetious comments? Did you log into the wrong site?

I thought you were here to post multiple Jordan Hill threads. Did you log into the wrong site?

https:// It's not so hard.
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3/21/2010  7:40 PM
BasketballJones wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:Looks like it's gonna pass.

I thought you were here to post facetious comments? Did you log into the wrong site?

I thought you were here to post multiple Jordan Hill threads. Did you log into the wrong site?

I've already completed that mission.

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BasketballJones
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3/21/2010  7:42 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:Looks like it's gonna pass.

I thought you were here to post facetious comments? Did you log into the wrong site?

I thought you were here to post multiple Jordan Hill threads. Did you log into the wrong site?

I've already completed that mission.

"Mission Accomplished."

https:// It's not so hard.
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3/21/2010  11:04 PM
I hope not.
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3/22/2010  9:21 AM
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3/22/2010  10:42 AM
Marv wrote:

lol

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3/22/2010  11:32 AM
Marv wrote:

That's an instant classic. Great find. Send it to Leno immediately (not that I watch the punk, but I know he does a bit on absurd headlines).

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3/22/2010  3:11 PM
Hearing these conservatives caterwauling about this bill, one thing is really clear: They have completely confused liberty and freedom with greed and selfishness.

This bill doesnt solve a whole hell of a lot, but the journey of a thousand miles has to start somewhere. I'm tired of hearing people in Canada laugh at us as they visit the dentist and doctor 20 + times a year.

The air of elitism and ignorance is overpowering.

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3/22/2010  4:14 PM
what a douchebag.

March 22, 2010
Texas Congressman: I made 'baby killer' remark
Posted: March 22nd, 2010 04:03 PM ET

From CNN's Charles Riley


Texas Republican Randy Neugebauer admitted to yelling ‘baby killer’ during Sunday’s health care debate.

Washington (CNN) – A Texas Republican acknowledged on Monday that he was the person who yelled "baby killer" during Sunday's House debate on health care reform.
Rep. Randy Neugebauer said he shouted out "'it's a baby killer' in reference to the agreement reached by the Democratic leadership" on compromise language that emphasized federal funds would not be used to pay for abortions.
Michigan Rep. Bart Stupak was on the House floor talking about the issue at the time of Neugebauer's outburst. Stupak was the leader of a group of anti-abortion rights Democrats who refused to back health care reform unless their concerns were addressed.
In a statement released by his office, Neugerbauer said that his comments have been misconstrued.
"Last night was the climax of weeks and months of debate on a health care bill that my constituents fear and do not support," he said. "In the heat and emotion of the debate, I exclaimed the phrase 'it's a baby killer' in reference to the agreement reached by the Democratic leadership. While I remain heartbroken over the passage of this bill and the tragic consequences it will have for the unborn, I deeply regret that my actions were mistakenly interpreted as a direct reference to Congressman Stupak himself.
"I have apologized to Mr. Stupak and also apologize to my colleagues for the manner in which I expressed my disappointment about the bill. The House Chamber is a place of decorum and respect. The timing and tone of my comment last night was inappropriate."
–CNN's Brianna Keilar contributed to this report

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/22/texas-congressman-i-made-baby-killer-remark/?hpt=T1&fbid=cUJIS2OiIGo

djsunyc
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3/22/2010  4:37 PM
you said the same thing to kg:

sebstar
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3/22/2010  8:23 PM
And here we go...


http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201003220081

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3/23/2010  5:01 AM
This is a joke. This is a bunch of history whores overextending the country. Implementing this system will probably cost another $ trillion+. While I'm in favor of greater equality, I am not in favor of putting an even greater burden on stat governments and an even greater burden on business (in terms of money paid into healthcare).

This is in violation of the 10th Amendment. The Federal Government is mandating state expenditure. New Jersey just clipped its education budget by just $900 million due to budget constraints and New Jersey is one of the wealthier states in the country.

This is bull****. This is robbing Peter to pay Paul. I want these ****ing politicians to take their thumbs out of their asses and stop pandering to history and its landmarks. I hope the DEMOCRAT from Tennessee is successful in leading the charge against this bull**** and proving this system is illegal.

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3/23/2010  7:17 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:This is a joke. This is a bunch of history whores overextending the country. Implementing this system will probably cost another $ trillion+. While I'm in favor of greater equality, I am not in favor of putting an even greater burden on stat governments and an even greater burden on business (in terms of money paid into healthcare).

This is in violation of the 10th Amendment. The Federal Government is mandating state expenditure. New Jersey just clipped its education budget by just $900 million due to budget constraints and New Jersey is one of the wealthier states in the country.

This is bull****. This is robbing Peter to pay Paul. I want these ****ing politicians to take their thumbs out of their asses and stop pandering to history and its landmarks. I hope the DEMOCRAT from Tennessee is successful in leading the charge against this bull**** and proving this system is illegal.

so you are saying we don't need health care for everyone? are we the only first world nation without some sort of health care for everyone? it is needed and tho it needs more money, it is money by tax increase of those making $250,0000 a year, 10% of this population. i do agree with education and that is why i didnt vote for that crook christie but that is also a case in point with the conservative way of budgeting: instead of getting rid of the countless administrative positions they get rid of education programs and teaching positions. well, that is another issue and we will see nj's education rank, which was 8th in the nation, which was the highest we have been in awhile, slide back to the way it was in the early 90's and they will still blame teachers.

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3/23/2010  7:20 AM
Marv wrote:what a douchebag.

March 22, 2010
Texas Congressman: I made 'baby killer' remark
Posted: March 22nd, 2010 04:03 PM ET

From CNN's Charles Riley


Texas Republican Randy Neugebauer admitted to yelling ‘baby killer’ during Sunday’s health care debate.

Washington (CNN) – A Texas Republican acknowledged on Monday that he was the person who yelled "baby killer" during Sunday's House debate on health care reform.
Rep. Randy Neugebauer said he shouted out "'it's a baby killer' in reference to the agreement reached by the Democratic leadership" on compromise language that emphasized federal funds would not be used to pay for abortions.
Michigan Rep. Bart Stupak was on the House floor talking about the issue at the time of Neugebauer's outburst. Stupak was the leader of a group of anti-abortion rights Democrats who refused to back health care reform unless their concerns were addressed.
In a statement released by his office, Neugerbauer said that his comments have been misconstrued.
"Last night was the climax of weeks and months of debate on a health care bill that my constituents fear and do not support," he said. "In the heat and emotion of the debate, I exclaimed the phrase 'it's a baby killer' in reference to the agreement reached by the Democratic leadership. While I remain heartbroken over the passage of this bill and the tragic consequences it will have for the unborn, I deeply regret that my actions were mistakenly interpreted as a direct reference to Congressman Stupak himself.
"I have apologized to Mr. Stupak and also apologize to my colleagues for the manner in which I expressed my disappointment about the bill. The House Chamber is a place of decorum and respect. The timing and tone of my comment last night was inappropriate."
–CNN's Brianna Keilar contributed to this report

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/22/texas-congressman-i-made-baby-killer-remark/?hpt=T1&fbid=cUJIS2OiIGo

however, you will still see idiots voting for an idiot like this. we have some stupid americans, i swear.

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3/23/2010  8:21 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/23/2010  8:25 AM
jazz74 wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:This is a joke. This is a bunch of history whores overextending the country. Implementing this system will probably cost another $ trillion+. While I'm in favor of greater equality, I am not in favor of putting an even greater burden on stat governments and an even greater burden on business (in terms of money paid into healthcare).

This is in violation of the 10th Amendment. The Federal Government is mandating state expenditure. New Jersey just clipped its education budget by just $900 million due to budget constraints and New Jersey is one of the wealthier states in the country.

This is bull****. This is robbing Peter to pay Paul. I want these ****ing politicians to take their thumbs out of their asses and stop pandering to history and its landmarks. I hope the DEMOCRAT from Tennessee is successful in leading the charge against this bull**** and proving this system is illegal.

so you are saying we don't need health care for everyone? are we the only first world nation without some sort of health care for everyone? it is needed and tho it needs more money, it is money by tax increase of those making $250,0000 a year, 10% of this population. i do agree with education and that is why i didnt vote for that crook christie but that is also a case in point with the conservative way of budgeting: instead of getting rid of the countless administrative positions they get rid of education programs and teaching positions. well, that is another issue and we will see nj's education rank, which was 8th in the nation, which was the highest we have been in awhile, slide back to the way it was in the early 90's and they will still blame teachers.

SupremeCommander wrote:While I'm in favor of greater equality, I am not in favor of putting an even greater burden on stat governments and an even greater burden on business

I am not in favor of spending at a huge deficit while we are already at a huge deficit. Like I said, this is robbing Peter to pay Paul. It's bull****. Another $ trillion+ in deficit is not the answer. The federal government mandating states to do **** is not the answer.

Furthermore, this is an ENTIRELY new system. It will not be implimented correctly the first iteration. that will cost more money to fix. I agree that we need healthcare reform. But we need a lot of things and financially we are, uh, strained.

As for education, taking an ax to administrators isn't an answer either. What are we going to do then? Pay healthcare for people that aren't paying in? Give them unemployment? Come on

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3/23/2010  10:48 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
jazz74 wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:This is a joke. This is a bunch of history whores overextending the country. Implementing this system will probably cost another $ trillion+. While I'm in favor of greater equality, I am not in favor of putting an even greater burden on stat governments and an even greater burden on business (in terms of money paid into healthcare).

This is in violation of the 10th Amendment. The Federal Government is mandating state expenditure. New Jersey just clipped its education budget by just $900 million due to budget constraints and New Jersey is one of the wealthier states in the country.

This is bull****. This is robbing Peter to pay Paul. I want these ****ing politicians to take their thumbs out of their asses and stop pandering to history and its landmarks. I hope the DEMOCRAT from Tennessee is successful in leading the charge against this bull**** and proving this system is illegal.

so you are saying we don't need health care for everyone? are we the only first world nation without some sort of health care for everyone? it is needed and tho it needs more money, it is money by tax increase of those making $250,0000 a year, 10% of this population. i do agree with education and that is why i didnt vote for that crook christie but that is also a case in point with the conservative way of budgeting: instead of getting rid of the countless administrative positions they get rid of education programs and teaching positions. well, that is another issue and we will see nj's education rank, which was 8th in the nation, which was the highest we have been in awhile, slide back to the way it was in the early 90's and they will still blame teachers.

SupremeCommander wrote:While I'm in favor of greater equality, I am not in favor of putting an even greater burden on stat governments and an even greater burden on business

I am not in favor of spending at a huge deficit while we are already at a huge deficit. Like I said, this is robbing Peter to pay Paul. It's bull****. Another $ trillion+ in deficit is not the answer. The federal government mandating states to do **** is not the answer.

Furthermore, this is an ENTIRELY new system. It will not be implimented correctly the first iteration. that will cost more money to fix. I agree that we need healthcare reform. But we need a lot of things and financially we are, uh, strained.

As for education, taking an ax to administrators isn't an answer either. What are we going to do then? Pay healthcare for people that aren't paying in? Give them unemployment? Come on

sooo we need two principals making six figures in one school? we need a district that has three superintendents when we could have one to do the job? but instead we cut homework club, tutoring, breakfast programs, bsi teachers, classroom funding, teacher's positions? will that benefit the kids? i teach and i see this in our district of a lower middle class town and we worked hard to get the kids where they are at with these programs and now they will go away. something needs to be done and cutting these programs that benefit the reason we are there for isnt the answer either.

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3/23/2010  11:04 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/23/2010  11:07 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:This is a joke. This is a bunch of history whores overextending the country. Implementing this system will probably cost another $ trillion+. While I'm in favor of greater equality, I am not in favor of putting an even greater burden on stat governments and an even greater burden on business (in terms of money paid into healthcare).

This is in violation of the 10th Amendment. The Federal Government is mandating state expenditure. New Jersey just clipped its education budget by just $900 million due to budget constraints and New Jersey is one of the wealthier states in the country.

This is bull****. This is robbing Peter to pay Paul. I want these ****ing politicians to take their thumbs out of their asses and stop pandering to history and its landmarks. I hope the DEMOCRAT from Tennessee is successful in leading the charge against this bull**** and proving this system is illegal.

Its not going to add to the deficit. Thats a republican talking point. The same republicans who cared nothing about our national surplus turning into a deficit during the Bush years.

The bill will be funded through taxing rich people by increasing the percentage that they have to pay into medicare and by including dividends as income. Given the extreme wealth inequality in this country, and the moral stigma associated with the "greatest industrialized nation" not providing health care for its citizens, this is a small price to pay.

"We got money for wars, but cant feed the poor" --- 2pac.

Time for America to man up for once.

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3/23/2010  11:08 AM
jazz74 wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
jazz74 wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:This is a joke. This is a bunch of history whores overextending the country. Implementing this system will probably cost another $ trillion+. While I'm in favor of greater equality, I am not in favor of putting an even greater burden on stat governments and an even greater burden on business (in terms of money paid into healthcare).

This is in violation of the 10th Amendment. The Federal Government is mandating state expenditure. New Jersey just clipped its education budget by just $900 million due to budget constraints and New Jersey is one of the wealthier states in the country.

This is bull****. This is robbing Peter to pay Paul. I want these ****ing politicians to take their thumbs out of their asses and stop pandering to history and its landmarks. I hope the DEMOCRAT from Tennessee is successful in leading the charge against this bull**** and proving this system is illegal.

so you are saying we don't need health care for everyone? are we the only first world nation without some sort of health care for everyone? it is needed and tho it needs more money, it is money by tax increase of those making $250,0000 a year, 10% of this population. i do agree with education and that is why i didnt vote for that crook christie but that is also a case in point with the conservative way of budgeting: instead of getting rid of the countless administrative positions they get rid of education programs and teaching positions. well, that is another issue and we will see nj's education rank, which was 8th in the nation, which was the highest we have been in awhile, slide back to the way it was in the early 90's and they will still blame teachers.

SupremeCommander wrote:While I'm in favor of greater equality, I am not in favor of putting an even greater burden on stat governments and an even greater burden on business

I am not in favor of spending at a huge deficit while we are already at a huge deficit. Like I said, this is robbing Peter to pay Paul. It's bull****. Another $ trillion+ in deficit is not the answer. The federal government mandating states to do **** is not the answer.

Furthermore, this is an ENTIRELY new system. It will not be implimented correctly the first iteration. that will cost more money to fix. I agree that we need healthcare reform. But we need a lot of things and financially we are, uh, strained.

As for education, taking an ax to administrators isn't an answer either. What are we going to do then? Pay healthcare for people that aren't paying in? Give them unemployment? Come on

sooo we need two principals making six figures in one school? we need a district that has three superintendents when we could have one to do the job? but instead we cut homework club, tutoring, breakfast programs, bsi teachers, classroom funding, teacher's positions? will that benefit the kids? i teach and i see this in our district of a lower middle class town and we worked hard to get the kids where they are at with these programs and now they will go away. something needs to be done and cutting these programs that benefit the reason we are there for isnt the answer either.

you have anything to say regarding healthcare?

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