I dont care if Amare Stoudemire and Lebron James walk through the door---BAD TRADE.

Marv wrote:i wanted to play him - i wanted to keep him. but if we get lebron and another major player i promise you i won't give TWO FUCKS about jordan hill.

We already had cap space for Lebron. Do you think he called up the Knicks and said get rid of Hill and two 1's so we can get another SF even if he wanted to come here. Must be VERY careful with big players.

BRIGGS wrote:Why doesnt one of the writers ask MDA why he couldnt see the talents in Douglas and Hill? Why did he not commit to play them even when we were so bad so early? We might just be lucky at this point that we didnt get swindled on Douglas--how do you really know what you have until you see it in consistent action? How can you make an informed decision that way?

Can a writer find out who actually made this deal--who was the guy behind it--I just dont believe Walsh did this.

This trade hurts. As much as I'd like to have Bosh (or even Amare) here, where are we going to get a defensive presence in the middle (who can also score and rebound)?

I said it on another board, the reporters need to start calling D'Antoni on this after every game.

I hope Hill has a monster game against us and want to see the look on D'Antoni's face, but do feel sorry for the fans.

BasketballJones wrote:Too bad D'Antoni had a personal vendetta against Jordan Hill.

Markji wrote:

Marv wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Marv wrote:i wanted to play him - i wanted to keep him. but if we get lebron and another major player i promise you i won't give TWO FUCKS about jordan hill.

We already had cap space for Lebron. Do you think he called up the Knicks and said get rid of Hill and two 1's so we can get another SF even if he wanted to come here. Must be VERY careful with big players.

i am truly assuming that the only reason donnie made that deal was because lebron did get the maessage to him. either he has someone specific that he's in cahoots with (bosh, amar'e, johnson) or he got the message to donnie to just get a second established stud and he'll come.

otherwise i cannot fathom donnie making that trade.

I'm hoping with you that is the case. (LBJ + another max FA). However, in the pit of my stomach I get the feeling that Dolan forced the deal against Donnie's advice.

I saw the interview with Walsh immediately after the deal was announced. The main thing I noticed was that Walsh wasn't jumping up and down with joy. He looked tired and he he didn't sound happy. More like he was just accepting the deal and rationalizing the cap space gained.

Dolan really sounds like a little Napolean. If Dolan fcked the trade up--he should be man enough to stand up and say so. But he is of a superior intellect!!

Two reasons I dont want Lebron to come here--Dolan and MDA. MDA has proven nothing zero--his comments that he had no idea what TD could do last night were almost mind boggling as was his decisions to sit Hill all year. Why should the idiot owner or the over rated coach be rewarded? I have kind of ignored Dolan since he has been here but he is an egotistical spoon fed goon. I cant imagine any female in the world screaming out his name other than Jim where is the credit card honeyy!!!!

rp wrote:TMS just in the backroom with all this talk

lol... hey u know i was high on Jordan Hill from jump but if we sign Lebron & Bosh this summer i'll be with Marv, i won't really care that we gave him up in this trade.

but i will agree w/BRIGGS on the point he's making... if we had the sense to actually play this kid when we had him, his value would have been much higher & we likely don't have to give up every one of those assets we did to dump Fishlips' contract... it's just a bad use of our young assets & resources when u pull off moves like that T-Mac trade, unless like Marv suggested, Donnie already has an under the table promise that Lebron & another big name FA are on their way to NY in July... even then, why were our rookies so horribly managed this season? that just doesn't make any sense to me at all... u can plainly see that both these kids can play at a high level if just given the chance... it's a damn good thing Donnie didn't have to include Toney Douglas in that trade as well, otherwise we'd be watching that kid playing that awesome defense for the Rockets while we wait & twiddle our thumbs for July 1st to come around.

Marv wrote:i wanted to play him - i wanted to keep him. but if we get lebron and another major player i promise you i won't give TWO FUCKS about jordan hill.

how come Marv can say "TWO FUCKS" and I can't?

TMS wrote:

sebstar wrote:The '09 draft was just a complete waste of an asset. Horribly botched. Walsh and Pringles boy should be held accountable for that.

not completely botched, at least we had enough sense to hold onto Toney Douglas... kid looks like a player & i love his defensive intensity... love that pick.

we completely flugged up the #8 pick tho, no doubt about it... we take a talented guy who could have filled the hole in our frontcourt, give him no playing time & end up dumping him to get rid of $7 mil in cap this summer... bad asset management.

Well remember the trade was to involve both Hill and Douglas if the Knicks didn't part with their pick. So I don't know where they will be drafting the following years to determine if it was worth it. Morey was a shark and Donnie was nice and bloody. If the Knicks get into a bidding war with Houston for Bosh's services via S&T then Walsh will get thrash by the sporting community as a whole.