Basketball is a game of artistry that should be played a certain way...Magic knew that...Bird knew that...Watching Kobe and LeBron play leaves absent the wow factor that comes along with great basketball players...Jordan dominated the ball much in the same way but had that wow factor in his game...He made you want to watch him play...Watching these guys dominate the ball without the pretty no look passes, hitting the dagger three point shot, making the defensive stops, hitting the cutter to the basket, grabbing that huge rebound in crunch time leaves it all empty for me...

Personally, I don't want to spend the next five years watching LeBron jacking three point shots from close to midcourt...Adding no rhythm to the flow of the offense or no style of how to approach beating an opponent in a particular game...He passes the ball yes but is he a dedicated passer, is he willing to make that beautiful pass first than taking that difficult off balance shot...Bird was...Maybe it's my age or the feeling I got watching Bird and Magic last week during the HBO special...Today's stars just aren't playing the game the right way or as yesterday's stars showed us how to play it...Anyone or is it just me???

holfresh wrote:Let me say this from the onset, a LeBron signing completely changes the face of this franchise for the better, pronto...That said, watching this guy a few years has left an empty feeling in my gut...Yesterday, I'm watching him play hitting off balance shots he should not be taking...The announcers going nuts saying it should count as extra points because of the degree of difficulty, I don't get it...

Basketball is a game of artistry that should be played a certain way...Magic knew that...Bird knew that...Watching Kobe and LeBron play leaves absent the wow factor that comes along with great basketball players...Jordan dominated the ball much in the same way but had that wow factor in his game...He made you want to watch him play...Watching these guys dominate the ball without the pretty no look passes, hitting the dagger three point shot, making the defensive stops, hitting the cutter to the basket, grabbing that huge rebound in crunch time leaves it all empty for me...

Personally, I don't want to spend the next five years watching LeBron jacking three point shots from close to midcourt...Adding no rhythm to the flow of the offense or no style of how to approach beating an opponent in a particular game...He passes the ball yes but is he a dedicated passer, is he willing to make that beautiful pass first than taking that difficult off balance shot...Bird was...Maybe it's my age or the feeling I got watching Bird and Magic last week during the HBO special...Today's starts just aren't playing the game the right way or as yesterday's stars showed us how to play it...Anyone or is it just me???

i can't believe you just wrote that.

holfreshnuts wrote:

fixed

Childs2Dudley wrote:

holfresh wrote:u guys have sold ur souls...Used to be a time we hated guys like LeBron...Knicks were about team ball...Look at u now...ready to sell out to the highest bidder...

Wanting to win a championship is selling out? Ok, cool. I guess I'll wait around so the Knicks can draft an unknown college player, develop him and maybe win a championship in 10-15 years. Then I wont be a sell-out.

with the knicks luck, it may be another 30 years before that happens.

I dont want LeBron "Jesus" James here...I dont care who the Knicks get, as long as its not him

Pharzeone wrote:Holfresh isn't the first to point this out. I read where at the HOF dinner a group of them were making similar points. They basically called him a ballhog and doubt that type of basketball will result in a championship. It was an interesting piece. Some of it sounds good, some sound like some old fashion playa hatin. I'll try to find it.

I am not a holfresh fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I can understand where he is coming from.

That does not mean that I would turn away Lebron, but he does do some things (in terms of decision making) which I did not see when I was watching Willis, Clyde, Bradley, and Debuschere (sp?) as a kid.

Perhaps he just needs the right team to shine.

I ain't going to be upset if we get him. I would like to grow my own star, but I am not foolish enough to turn away a guy like James if he falls into our lap.

The idea is not to replecate the Cavs but surround Lebron with the talent to win. How and what Walsh plans to do that is what we don't know. Im sure some of you know already.

Lebron ball is not a thing of beauty and having seen the cavs a few times I will admit it but they are playing a better brand of ball and they do pass pretty good now.