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CrushAlot
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3/12/2010  11:35 PM
Nate 5-6 for 3's, 5 assists and 4 steals in Celts win. Darko, 12 pts and 5 rebs. in loss. Hughes reportedly will be signing with the Bobcats. Hill and Jeffries off.
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3/13/2010  12:18 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/13/2010  12:18 AM
Hey can we make a topic about Jerome James, Malik Rose and the crew too? I really want to know what every former Knick is up to. It really matters to me.
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3/13/2010  1:03 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Nate 5-6 for 3's, 5 assists and 4 steals in Celts win. Darko, 12 pts and 5 rebs. in loss. Hughes reportedly will be signing with the Bobcats. Hill and Jeffries off.

keep the updates coming Crush.

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3/13/2010  2:17 AM
Regardless of how Nate performs, At the time of the trade, Walsh undersold Nate. 1st rd pick should have been coming back. Yes, Walker looks decent, but back then Nate was the better talent.
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3/13/2010  2:40 AM
i'm OK w/the trade... Donnie's mistake was waiting a year to trade Nate... MDA's fault mostly for devaluing him this season w/that moronic 14 game benching... i actually like how Walker's been playing... he's actually been outperforming Nate in Boston.
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3/13/2010  2:50 AM
TMS wrote:i'm OK w/the trade... Donnie's mistake was waiting a year to trade Nate... MDA's fault mostly for devaluing him this season w/that moronic 14 game benching... i actually like how Walker's been playing... he's actually been outperforming Nate in Boston.

Agreed, but at the time of the trade, Walsh should not have assumed that would happen.
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3/13/2010  3:30 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:Hey can we make a topic about Jerome James, Malik Rose and the crew too? I really want to know what every former Knick is up to. It really matters to me.

No filler in trades mentioned here...

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3/13/2010  9:21 AM
Stephon Marbury Update:

Former NBA All-Star Stephon Marbury has failed to help his new team, Shanxi Zhongyu, to qualify for the CBA play-offs. Marbury has made good numbers in China (23.1 points, 9.4 assists and 6.2 rebounds), but it's not happy with the cold weather of Shanxi province, and has demanded $2 million to continue next year. Marbury is earning $25K a month right now, since signing for the Chinese team a month and a half ago.

http://www.sbnation.com/2010/3/9/1364895/stephon-marbury-china-2-million

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3/13/2010  9:24 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/13/2010  9:27 AM
Renaldo Balkman Update:

Nuggets' Renaldo Balkman Hoping to Turn Around Tough Season
3/04/2010 9:33 PM ET By Chris Tomasson

DENVER -- At least, Denver Nuggets forward Renaldo Balkman got into a game Wednesday.

Balkman, who has endured a trying season, stepped on the floor for six minutes of fourth-quarter garbage time in the Nuggets' 119-90 win over Oklahoma City -- his first action since Dec. 8.

He signed a three-year, $5 million contract extension last October, locking Balkman up through 2012-13. But he has barely seen the court this season, having microscopic averages of 1.3 points and 2.0 rebounds while getting into just nine games.

It's a season that has included Balkman dealing with legal issues following an arrest on Aug. 22, 2009 in his hometown of Tampa, Fla., on suspicion of drunk driving. He pleaded no contest Jan. 21 to a reduced charge of reckless driving, was fined $500 and $383 in court costs but received a withholding of judification, which means he was not technically convicted of the misdemeanor.

Two weeks after resolving that issue, Balkman got hit in a Feb. 4 practice while posting up guard Ty Lawson. He went down with back spasms and was carted off in a wheelchair/stretcher device.

"I went to the hospital for a couple of hours,'' said Balkman, diagnosed with back strain. "I thought it was real bad.''

His teammates were worried.

"We didn't know quite what had happened,'' said guard Arron Afflalo. "So it was an unfortunate incident. We're glad he's back.''

Balkman missed 11 games before Wednesday, when he scored two points and took advantage of his on-court time to misfire on a trio of three-point attempts. He sat out 41 other games this season due to a coach's decision or being inactive.

Last season, Balkman had some moments for the Nuggets, including a six-game stretch in March during which he averaged 11.5 rebounds. That remained on the minds of Denver's brass when the fourth-year man got a contract extension just before last fall's deadline, preventing him from becoming a restricted free agent next summer.

But Denver head coach George Karl, never enamored with Balkman's practice habits, hasn't used him much this season when he is healthy. Minutes that previously might have gone to Balkman have been given to newly acquired forwards Joey Graham and Malik Allen.

"It is what it is,'' Balkman said. "I do what I do on the court to try to make a difference. ... I just got to get back in the gym, and got to do what I can to get back on the court.''

But at least Balkman said his back -- while still "a factor and not going to get better overnight'' -- is improving. And his legal situation has been resolved.

"That's in the past,'' Balkman said of the case. "I don't think about that.''

Renee Muratti, assistant state's attorney for Florida's Hillsborough Country, said withholding of judification means Balkman was "not technically convicted,'' and the misdemeanor doesn't remain on his record even if it can be seen when documents are viewed. Balkman's co-counsel, Robert Sparks, said his client didn't even get a point on his driver's record.

There have been erroneous reports Balkman received a two-game suspension earlier this season, but Sparks said his client received no penalties from the NBA or the Nuggets, something not disputed by league and team officials. Had Balkman been convicted of driving under the influence, he was at risk to receive a two-game suspension similar to the one Sacramento forward Andres Nocioni was handed by the NBA earlier this week.

"(Any penalty assessed) would have been a travesty of justice,'' said Sparks, who said his client had refused a breathalyzer after being stopped. "There was no evidence Mr. Balkman was impaired or driving under the influence.''

Now, Balkman can concentrate on trying to help the Nuggets down the stretch even if it will be difficult to get many opportunities. Still, it was just one year ago Saturday he pulled down 14 rebounds at Utah.

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3/13/2010  9:34 AM
Nate was so much in demand nobody tendered him a contract when restricted knowing we likley would not match. He was given a nice one year deal and still ever the fool.

Bill Walker can play. Anyone happy about that?

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3/13/2010  9:39 AM
^^^How many deals did Lee get???
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3/13/2010  10:25 AM
Nalod wrote:Nate was so much in demand nobody tendered him a contract when restricted knowing we likley would not match. He was given a nice one year deal and still ever the fool.

Bill Walker can play. Anyone happy about that?

Happy?! We love to torture ourselves here. Didn't you get the memo?

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3/13/2010  11:24 AM
Nalod wrote:Nate was so much in demand nobody tendered him a contract when restricted knowing we likley would not match. He was given a nice one year deal and still ever the fool.

Bill Walker can play. Anyone happy about that?

I don't care what other teams thought. Nate is a good as hell player and there's no way you only get back a player who doesn't see an ounce of court time and Eddie House. The only reason we traded him was b/c D'Antoni couldn't stand him.

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3/13/2010  1:21 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Nate was so much in demand nobody tendered him a contract when restricted knowing we likley would not match. He was given a nice one year deal and still ever the fool.

Bill Walker can play. Anyone happy about that?

I don't care what other teams thought. Nate is a good as hell player and there's no way you only get back a player who doesn't see an ounce of court time and Eddie House. The only reason we traded him was b/c D'Antoni couldn't stand him.

Couldn't agree w/u more Allanfan
MDA and these thrashing losses he set himself up for it
Good for him, he's puke when it comes to judge of talent & needs here in nba these days.

He let us all know few seasons back with SUNs .. Steve Kerns wanted to bring in a defensive assistant staff or 2
MDA was against it. Explained all these deals & MDA moves. If you have heart and try to play some D you're not
a MDA type. Reason why we only see Toney Douglas now and then, only reason he's playing cause MDA got no choice.

MDA dont even recognize he's got a defender type in Douglas but I guess defense is too boring for him
MDA talks a good game when it comes to D, but he and his coaches staff are for the birds and useless

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3/13/2010  4:15 PM
BasketballJones wrote:Stephon Marbury Update:

Former NBA All-Star Stephon Marbury has failed to help his new team, Shanxi Zhongyu, to qualify for the CBA play-offs. Marbury has made good numbers in China (23.1 points, 9.4 assists and 6.2 rebounds), but it's not happy with the cold weather of Shanxi province, and has demanded $2 million to continue next year. Marbury is earning $25K a month right now, since signing for the Chinese team a month and a half ago.

http://www.sbnation.com/2010/3/9/1364895/stephon-marbury-china-2-million

HOLY CRAP! what a royal FUGGUP by Donnie! Marbury can still ball!

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3/13/2010  4:20 PM
DJMUSIC wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Nate was so much in demand nobody tendered him a contract when restricted knowing we likley would not match. He was given a nice one year deal and still ever the fool.

Bill Walker can play. Anyone happy about that?

I don't care what other teams thought. Nate is a good as hell player and there's no way you only get back a player who doesn't see an ounce of court time and Eddie House. The only reason we traded him was b/c D'Antoni couldn't stand him.

Couldn't agree w/u more Allanfan
MDA and these thrashing losses he set himself up for it
Good for him, he's puke when it comes to judge of talent & needs here in nba these days.

He let us all know few seasons back with SUNs .. Steve Kerns wanted to bring in a defensive assistant staff or 2
MDA was against it. Explained all these deals & MDA moves. If you have heart and try to play some D you're not
a MDA type. Reason why we only see Toney Douglas now and then, only reason he's playing cause MDA got no choice.

MDA dont even recognize he's got a defender type in Douglas but I guess defense is too boring for him
MDA talks a good game when it comes to D, but he and his coaches staff are for the birds and useless

in some ways i agree w/u that MDA is only playing Walker to justify him dumping Nate for a journeyman & 2nd round talent, but u can't really complain about the results... i was skeptical about this trade too when it went down but it's worked out for us IMO... Walker looks to be a keeper, & that's all u can really ask for out of this whole mess... we probably could have gotten better value had Nate been featured this season rather than benched for 14 games, but it is what it is... i won't lay blame at DW's feet for MDA's actions as a head coach other than for hiring him to begin with, but i doubt he envisioned this guy would be alienating players like this when he got here.

hopefully JR Giddens can show himself to be a keeper in the coming weeks too if or when he ever gets back on the hardwood.

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3/13/2010  5:59 PM
C - Jordan Hill - 11.5ppg, 8rpg.
C - Darko Millicic - 5.2ppg, 5.8rpg.
F - Zach Randolph - 20.7ppg, 11.8rpg.
F - Jared Jeffries - 3.4ppg, 3.7rpg.
F - Marcus Landry - 6.5ppg, 1rpg.
G - Jamal Crawford - 17.5ppg, 2.9apg.
G - Stephon Marbury - 23.1ppg, 9.4apg.
G - Nate Robinson - 8.0ppg, 2.6apg.
G - Mardy Collins - 2.4ppg, 0.9apg.

STAR POWER!!!! Just needed the RIGHT COACH!!!!

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2012 Pick - #1 overall pick in 2012. (The Next Shaq)


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Cosmic wrote:C - Jordan Hill - 11.5ppg, 8rpg.
C - Darko Millicic - 5.2ppg, 5.8rpg.
F - Zach Randolph - 20.7ppg, 11.8rpg.
F - Jared Jeffries - 3.4ppg, 3.7rpg.
F - Marcus Landry - 6.5ppg, 1rpg.
G - Jamal Crawford - 17.5ppg, 2.9apg.
G - Stephon Marbury - 23.1ppg, 9.4apg.
G - Nate Robinson - 8.0ppg, 2.6apg.
G - Mardy Collins - 2.4ppg, 0.9apg.

STAR POWER!!!! Just needed the RIGHT COACH!!!!

2011 Pick Swap - #1 overall pick in 2011. (The Next Jordan)
2012 Pick - #1 overall pick in 2012. (The Next Shaq)


Damn you Donnie! You stole our 2009-2010, 2010-2011, 2011-2012 NBA Titles away from us!

i would take jordan hill and our #1's back in a SECOND.

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3/13/2010  6:19 PM
Cosmic wrote:C - Jordan Hill - 11.5ppg, 8rpg.
C - Darko Millicic - 5.2ppg, 5.8rpg.
F - Zach Randolph - 20.7ppg, 11.8rpg.
F - Jared Jeffries - 3.4ppg, 3.7rpg.
F - Marcus Landry - 6.5ppg, 1rpg.
G - Jamal Crawford - 17.5ppg, 2.9apg.
G - Stephon Marbury - 23.1ppg, 9.4apg.
G - Nate Robinson - 8.0ppg, 2.6apg.
G - Mardy Collins - 2.4ppg, 0.9apg.

STAR POWER!!!! Just needed the RIGHT COACH!!!!

2011 Pick Swap - #1 overall pick in 2011. (The Next Jordan)
2012 Pick - #1 overall pick in 2012. (The Next Shaq)


Damn you Donnie! You stole our 2009-2010, 2010-2011, 2011-2012 NBA Titles away from us!

Why are you being so dismissive? Jordan Hill and Darko have been playing well since the trade. Zach randolph is one of the best power forwards in the league. Why include Mardy collins and marbury?

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3/14/2010  2:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/14/2010  2:23 PM
sebstar wrote:
Cosmic wrote:C - Jordan Hill - 11.5ppg, 8rpg.
C - Darko Millicic - 5.2ppg, 5.8rpg.
F - Zach Randolph - 20.7ppg, 11.8rpg.
F - Jared Jeffries - 3.4ppg, 3.7rpg.
F - Marcus Landry - 6.5ppg, 1rpg.
G - Jamal Crawford - 17.5ppg, 2.9apg.
G - Stephon Marbury - 23.1ppg, 9.4apg.
G - Nate Robinson - 8.0ppg, 2.6apg.
G - Mardy Collins - 2.4ppg, 0.9apg.

STAR POWER!!!! Just needed the RIGHT COACH!!!!

2011 Pick Swap - #1 overall pick in 2011. (The Next Jordan)
2012 Pick - #1 overall pick in 2012. (The Next Shaq)


Damn you Donnie! You stole our 2009-2010, 2010-2011, 2011-2012 NBA Titles away from us!

Why are you being so dismissive? Jordan Hill and Darko have been playing well since the trade. Zach randolph is one of the best power forwards in the league. Why include Mardy collins and marbury?

Playing well according to whom? Check their averages since they left. I highly doubt two guys averaging about 5/5 since their trades are players to worry so much about! Is either a game changer? A franchise talent? No, they're not. And that's the point: We're gunning for franchise talents here. Not looking to build a team around fringe NBA talent and hope they pan out. Which is exactly what you do if you want to keep and re-sign Darko and keep Hill. Then we got Lee, Harrington, Gallo, Chandler... wait a second, doesn't this sound exactly like the garbage team we have today? Isn't the point to move away from this? Or do we want to keep winning 30 games a year, picking 8th, and stinking it up forever?

This plan gives us an out of that rut. And that's all I need to know to endorse it to the fullest.

If it fails then in hindsight we can look back and wonder. But not before it's even been given a chance to succeed. No.


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Why include Marbury/Collins and others? This is the "Walsh's rejected players" thread isn't it? Might as well include everyone we dumped.

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