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nychamp
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3/12/2010  5:57 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2010/03/12/2010-03-12_knicks_hope_all_isnt_lost.html

"If Walsh can't land either James or Dwyane Wade but ends up with Johnson, another option is luring Toronto's Chris Bosh in a sign-and-trade. Sources claim the Raptors would be open to such a deal if it included David Lee."

Get it done, Donnie! Article also claims that Joe Johnson to NY is a done deal, a wink-wink deal as a fallback for no Lebron/Wade:

"There is a growing sentiment among opposing team executives that at the very least the Knicks will sign Atlanta's Joe Johnson, whose agent, Arn Tellem, orchestrated the Tracy McGrady trade to the Knicks and has been friends with Walsh for 20 years. It's called a 'wink-wink deal,' and even though it is against NBA rules, the practice does exist and is nearly impossible to police.

'I think that's a done deal,' said one Eastern Conference GM."
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3/12/2010  7:43 AM
I'd be stoked on both accounts...

I'm a bigger Joe Johnson fan than most

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babyKnicks
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3/12/2010  8:12 AM
Yes and yes.
Joe Johnson
Chandler
gallo
bosh

is a really good team.

And if somehow, someway, we can secure Durant or melo in 2011 after curry is off the books, I say title run.

I'd like to see a sign and trade involving curry and I'd **** myself

Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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3/12/2010  8:15 AM
Toney Douglas/Sergio
Joe Johnson
Chandler
gallo
bosh

bench? Would we resign tmac? I am a huge Joe Johnson fan. Love him with dantoni.

And at this stage sign and trade lee to Phoenix works as well fr Amare

Let's go Knicks. That's amare
SupremeCommander
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3/12/2010  8:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/12/2010  8:30 AM
babyKnicks wrote:Toney Douglas/Sergio
Joe Johnson
Chandler
gallo
bosh

bench? Would we resign tmac? I am a huge Joe Johnson fan. Love him with dantoni.

And at this stage sign and trade lee to Phoenix works as well fr Amare

Chandler/Curry for Steve Nash? Resign TMac?

Nash
Johnson
TMac
Gallo
Bosh

pinch me, I know I'm dreaming

DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
crzymdups
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3/12/2010  8:54 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
babyKnicks wrote:Toney Douglas/Sergio
Joe Johnson
Chandler
gallo
bosh

bench? Would we resign tmac? I am a huge Joe Johnson fan. Love him with dantoni.

And at this stage sign and trade lee to Phoenix works as well fr Amare

Chandler/Curry for Steve Nash? Resign TMac?

Nash
Johnson
TMac
Gallo
Bosh

pinch me, I know I'm dreaming

just don't pinch tmac's knee... i don't think he can hold up for a full season - i think if we sign him we'll get a lot of what we have right now - some games of brilliance some games where he's hurting too much to perform.

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3/12/2010  9:01 AM
Johnson and Bosh would be a good duo if we can't get LeBron. Would hope Johnson would come for less than the max so we could keep TMac.

TMac would essentially be a 6th man or pseudo PG.
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3/12/2010  9:13 AM
Durant is already saying he wants to be extended in OK.

Anyone forget the Rubio fantasy?
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3/12/2010  9:37 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/12/2010  9:39 AM
if bosh + joe johnson both want the max in a S&T, then the knicks will also have to trade gallo, chandler, douglar, or eddy in one of those deals to make it work.

using lee does not help in that regard...besides, lee would have to want to go to toronto. he's an UFA also.
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3/12/2010  9:45 AM
djsunyc wrote:if bosh + joe johnson both want the max in a S&T, then the knicks will also have to trade gallo, chandler, douglar, or eddy in one of those deals to make it work.

using lee does not help in that regard...besides, lee would have to want to go to toronto. he's an UFA also.

thank you, dj. Knick fans generally think everyone operates on their level of management. I thought this was about signing FAs outright. Donnie will behind Morey in S&T scenarios using Knick assets.

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3/12/2010  10:05 AM
David Lee is a Unrestricted FA. LOL at us S&T him to Toronto.
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3/12/2010  10:14 AM
djsunyc wrote:if bosh + joe johnson both want the max in a S&T, then the knicks will also have to trade gallo, chandler, douglar, or eddy in one of those deals to make it work.

or any one of the scrubs we own options on.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
djsunyc
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3/12/2010  10:21 AM
kam77 wrote:
djsunyc wrote:if bosh + joe johnson both want the max in a S&T, then the knicks will also have to trade gallo, chandler, douglar, or eddy in one of those deals to make it work.

or any one of the scrubs we own options on.

well it would have to be in the neighborhood of $3 mil so whatever adds up to that.
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3/12/2010  10:26 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/12/2010  10:27 AM
djsunyc wrote:
kam77 wrote:
djsunyc wrote:if bosh + joe johnson both want the max in a S&T, then the knicks will also have to trade gallo, chandler, douglar, or eddy in one of those deals to make it work.

or any one of the scrubs we own options on.

well it would have to be in the neighborhood of $3 mil so whatever adds up to that.


we own $100 million in capholds. It's not gonna be a problem.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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3/12/2010  10:48 AM
Pharzeone wrote:
djsunyc wrote:if bosh + joe johnson both want the max in a S&T, then the knicks will also have to trade gallo, chandler, douglar, or eddy in one of those deals to make it work.

using lee does not help in that regard...besides, lee would have to want to go to toronto. he's an UFA also.

thank you, dj. Knick fans generally think everyone operates on their level of management. I thought this was about signing FAs outright. Donnie will behind Morey in S&T scenarios using Knick assets.

I dont get it. We have max cap space 2x. Why do we need to S&T?

Tor would get something in return and Bosh would get his 6th year, but thats about it. We dont NEED to S&T to make that happen.

Also... Bosh is a hell of a player, but is he better enough than Lee to justify the money difference? Bosh will cost $17mm. Lee might only cost $9.5 (that would be 6 years $74mm). The $7-$8mm difference between Bosh and Lee could really get us another good player. We have seen guys like Artest and Ariza sign MLE contracts last year. I think $7-$8mm extra would be huge.

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3/12/2010  10:50 AM
"Sources say the 6-11 Bosh will sign back Toronto"
RIP Crushalot😞
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3/12/2010  11:10 AM
BRIGGS wrote:"Sources say the 6-11 Bosh will sign back Toronto"
once again the sources are wrong. He's only 6'10
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3/12/2010  12:11 PM
AnubisADL wrote:David Lee is a Unrestricted FA. LOL at us S&T him to Toronto.

LOL at who?

That's exactly what can be done and it's probably a significant possibility because a sign and trade would allow Lee to maximize his contract value in terms of years and overall value.
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3/12/2010  12:15 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:David Lee is a Unrestricted FA. LOL at us S&T him to Toronto.

LOL at who?

That's exactly what can be done and it's probably a significant possibility because a sign and trade would allow Lee to maximize his contract value in terms of years and overall value.

David Lee isn't going to Toronto man. You seriously think Colangelo wants a front court of David Lee and Bargnani?

These fake source by NY media is getting tired. Everyone is always rumored to be heading to the Knicks every year.

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3/12/2010  12:18 PM
fishmike wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:"Sources say the 6-11 Bosh will sign back Toronto"
once again the sources are wrong. He's only 6'10

At the time of the measurement sources say Bosh was due for a hair cut

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