N.O. (Shin) is notoriously cheap and they are in the luxury tax w/ Peja's $15mm next year. This would give them two young wing guys, and chop $15mm off their books for next year. I forget where the luxury tax line kicks in but it might save them $20-$30mm next year. Thats a lot of scratch. Then you still have enough money to resign Lee, dont have to resign Chandler and have $25mm in expiring contracts coming off the books next year.

If we whiff on FAs could be a good way to use the cap space. Gets us a PG. Guy is legit

TMS wrote:Collison is signed for another 3 seasons at rookie scale dollars... they ain't trading him just to dump 1 year of Peja's contract... not every GM is as myopic as Donnie Walsh.

"Hello? Mr. Morey?"

TheGame wrote:THat deal would not work under the CBA. CHandler makes like $2-3 mil and Walker makes 1 mil. How could we trade them for Peja and Collison? We would have to throw in Curry, which would then make the deal pointless for NO, unless Peja has more than one year left on his deal.

It just one example of how cap space can give you a lot of flexibility

TheGame wrote:

fishmike wrote:

TheGame wrote:THat deal would not work under the CBA. CHandler makes like $2-3 mil and Walker makes 1 mil. How could we trade them for Peja and Collison? We would have to throw in Curry, which would then make the deal pointless for NO, unless Peja has more than one year left on his deal.

it works perfectly under the CBA. We are under the cap this summer. You only have to match salaries when both teams are over the salary cap. The Knicks can absorb the great salaries because they will be that far under the cap.

It just one example of how cap space can give you a lot of flexibility

You are right. I would do that deal as a last resort if collison looks good for the rest of theyear.

TMS wrote:

fishmike wrote:

TMS wrote:Collison is signed for another 3 seasons at rookie scale dollars... they ain't trading him just to dump 1 year of Peja's contract... not every GM is as myopic as Donnie Walsh.

your right. Why would any owner want to take $18mm and put it right into his pocket for an asset thats redundant anyway. You know whow else is signed for 3 years? Chris Paul.

Collison is a good player but he's not John Wall. He's got a lot more value to us than he does to the Hornets.

feel free & point out the last time a GM dumped as promising a young prospect as Darren Collison just to dump a contract... u keep ragging on people for being willing to trade down 10 spots to dump Zach Randolph's contract, but dumping young assets altogether makes perfect sense to u somehow... go figure.

Any other questions?

fishmike wrote:sorry.. I mean Ronnie Brewer. Jazz are 41-21, competing for a title this year and gave up their best wing defender for a protected future #1. Strange... that money puts them BELOW the tax threshold.

Keep ragging? Because your idea to trade down to dump Zach was dumb? It was. Life goes on. Who cares. Do you actually hold on this stuff? Geeze.

Dumping a contract is easy for you to say.

Your hang Shin, who everyone in the league knows is cheap $18mm for a player who will never be anything more than a backup so long as the Chris Paul the face of his franchise is still on the team. Its just good business, both for him and for us. Not every owner is Mark Cuban. Most of them actually care about money. Thats a boatload of cash.

um... getting rid of a player for a future 1st round pick is just a tad different than a straight salary dump of assets to unload salary.

& i keep holding onto this stuff because you've done a complete flip flop on your entire argument against trading down in the draft to dump salary, & you continue to take pot shots at people who were in favor of trading down to dump Zach & yet you complete support Donnie's decision to dump a ton more assets to unload Fishlips... doesn't make a bit of sense to me

my position made a ton more sense than yours trying to make reason of this moronic trade Donnie Walsh just pulled off for a prayer's chance at signing Lebron this summer, let's face it... i have never once been an advocate of straight giving up assets to dump salary... trading down 10 slots in the lottery to dump $33 million of an albatross contract is just a tiny wee bit different than giving up a #8 lottery selection & draft rights to 2 future picks to dump a $7 million dollar contract fish.