Holding on to Hill and the picks and letting Curry/Jeffries expire next year would have given them flexibility, but now they are all in and past the point-of-no-return. I expect a big time squad next year that will challenge for the Atlantic Division.

Play time is over with these clowns.

kam77 wrote:In terms of attracting free agents we do have several key assets:

1. We got one of the top3 coaches that players want to play for in the whole league.
2. We have the most roster flexibility in the league.
3. Geography

MS wrote:If you were a free agent would you rather play in New York or Miami. Anyone who says otherwise is nuts.

If you were Lebron and had to decide between NY or Chicago? Rose (Allstar) Noah, Deng, Gibson, draft selection, etc. Chicago.

Amare can reup and play with Nash so he is going too.

We are getting Joe Johnson at 17 million. Which is a joke. That's the only guy outside of Rudy Gay that would have serious interest here. Johnson is a nobody in turns of star power and he wants his due.

Mike is not a selling point after these two seasons. And Donnie not having depth in the front court really hurt the knicks with these two terrible trades

Has history taught us nothing? NOBODY wants to go to Chicago. Ever been there in the winter? Summers are amazing. Winter? SUCKS. No nightlife, and 5 degrees with 30mph winds every day.

If I am Lebron I am going to NY, because he wants to make a billion $ and thats where my business partners will be. Certainly not in Cle. I want to get my brand in with the wall street crowd, own a house in the hamptons and see my boy CC play from my luxry suite.

The team? I'm good enough to take Lee, Chandler, Gallo and TMac deep into the playoffs. Donnie will get us some deadline help w/ Curry's contract.

Thats what Lebron is thinking. Thats a fact

Cosmic wrote:What's wrong with using geography as a selling point?

How is 35M in cap space, McCurry's 11M expiring, David Lee in S&T, Chandler, Gallo, Douglas... not assets?

And, good point, fishmike. Why do people keep saying "Bron won't go to a 30 win team." When he's presently carrying a 30 win team on his shoulders to 60 wins?

Do you know how many teams have large 2011 expirings that are infinitely better players?

Jamal Crawford
Erick Dampier
Tayshaun Prince
Troy Murphy
Mike Dunleavy
Dan Gadzuric
Nick Collison
Jason Richardson
Samuel Dalmbert

So what are we really going to get for Eddy Curry?

Cosmic wrote:What's wrong with using geography as a selling point?

How is 35M in cap space, McCurry's 11M expiring, David Lee in S&T, Chandler, Gallo, Douglas... not assets?

And, good point, fishmike. Why do people keep saying "Bron won't go to a 30 win team." When he's presently carrying a 30 win team on his shoulders to 60 wins?

Pharzeone wrote:

fishmike wrote:

MS wrote:If you were a free agent would you rather play in New York or Miami. Anyone who says otherwise is nuts.

If you were Lebron and had to decide between NY or Chicago? Rose (Allstar) Noah, Deng, Gibson, draft selection, etc. Chicago.

Amare can reup and play with Nash so he is going too.

We are getting Joe Johnson at 17 million. Which is a joke. That's the only guy outside of Rudy Gay that would have serious interest here. Johnson is a nobody in turns of star power and he wants his due.

Mike is not a selling point after these two seasons. And Donnie not having depth in the front court really hurt the knicks with these two terrible trades

if I was Bosh I am already in Miami.

Has history taught us nothing? NOBODY wants to go to Chicago. Ever been there in the winter? Summers are amazing. Winter? SUCKS. No nightlife, and 5 degrees with 30mph winds every day.

If I am Lebron I am going to NY, because he wants to make a billion $ and thats where my business partners will be. Certainly not in Cle. I want to get my brand in with the wall street crowd, own a house in the hamptons and see my boy CC play from my luxry suite.

The team? I'm good enough to take Lee, Chandler, Gallo and TMac deep into the playoffs. Donnie will get us some deadline help w/ Curry's contract.

Thats what Lebron is thinking. Thats a fact

Jordan did just fine in Chicago to market himself. Mickey D was able to track him to his suburbs without any problem. Tiger before the mess was doing more than ok living outside of Orlando. If you have something that people want they'll find you wherever you are.

Chicago has no nightlife?? Lebron isn't a nightlife type of guy and besides Chi town can go toe to toe with NY as far as nightlife. Particularly the nightlife that Lebron would be interested in. And you just described NY's four seasons. I hope Walsh's selling points are better.

Last time we had money Allan Houston left Grant Hill to come here. Maybe JJ is Houston part II. Who knows. Point is people around here like to pretend they have it figured out. They dont. Lebron will go where Lebron wants to go. Knicks have a potentially good situation to offer a pair of stars in this league.

We aren't a 25 win team at the moment. And please don't mention Toney Douglas is an asset. He is a scrub right now that can't get minutes at 23 years old.

Lebron could go to LA to play with Gordon, Kaman, Griffin and Davis. Better market, better weather, and taking Kobe's shine is something I am sure he would love to do.

After the McGrady trade, I completely disagree with that notion.

The additional cap is huge because it either allows us to re-sign our own all-star in David Lee or allows LeBron to bring one of his buddies over to NY.

We're not just selling LeBron on NY anymore, we're selling him on the idea of bringing another superstar with him to build a dynasty. We've never seen anything like this happen before. From a business perspective, coming to NY makes a ton of sense for LeBron. After the McGrady trade, it also is starting to make sense from a basketball perspective. That right there is HUGE.

We can one up Cleveland and offer LeBron a better FUTURE supporting cast. If the Cavs can't get it done this season, they may not have the assets or cap to give LeBron a title for another 3-4 seasons.

fishmike wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:Fish my point was people knew about Jordan before the summer of 1991. I doubt people outside of basketball even know in the hell Scottie is. Jordan and Lebron both transcends the NBA. Allan Houston took NY's money for his desire to play along side Ewing and he felt he wasn't appreciated in Detroit. I think everyone understands that nothing is written in stone but someone can make the point pro and con about the chances of Lebron coming to NY.

I half agree. If Lebron trancends the sport and most of all Cle why dont his shoes sell? Are you aware that a) his Nike contract is up and b) he's been regarded as a disappointment because his shoes have not sold?

Of course its all speculation.

nobody's shoes sell. it's a recession - nobody is dropping $125+ on kicks.

Cosmic wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

Cosmic wrote:What's wrong with using geography as a selling point?

How is 35M in cap space, McCurry's 11M expiring, David Lee in S&T, Chandler, Gallo, Douglas... not assets?

And, good point, fishmike. Why do people keep saying "Bron won't go to a 30 win team." When he's presently carrying a 30 win team on his shoulders to 60 wins?

Do you know how many teams have large 2011 expirings that are infinitely better players?

Jamal Crawford
Erick Dampier
Tayshaun Prince
Troy Murphy
Mike Dunleavy
Dan Gadzuric
Nick Collison
Jason Richardson
Samuel Dalmbert

So what are we really going to get for Eddy Curry?

Expiring players are that. Expiring. They're contracts not players.

That's why teams trade for them. Cause it gets them out of financial trouble.

Teams are known to trade decent players for an expiring piece of meat. It happens.

So, Curry is indeed a value in that. And not for nothing but half your list is full of trash anyway, come'on. Sixers been trying to dump Stupid Sam for years with no luck. Dallas trying to dump Dumpier for years with no luck literally days after Cuban got drunk and gave him 91M dollars.

Exactly my point. Those players can at least contribute to a team. Curry is utterly useless.

Curry can only help us acquire long term garbage.

The Cav's acquired Jamison for pennies because he is 34 with 2 yrs and 20-30 million left on his deal. Plus alot of teams were angling for 2010 cap space. Next year all those teams that missed out will be looking to improve.