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DJMUSIC
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3/6/2010  10:22 PM
Let someone on this board answer that question
Knicks sux and we all know NY losses dont mean much since its all about Next yr 2010/20211 and July 1,

We all know guys get down. We blame the roster and how putrid team really is.

The blame needs to be placed square where it should be & its the Knicks coaches and their lack of fight
hunger to play for next season.

NO ONE on this team seems mad at a thing, they never seem too down to lose. Even to a NJ team with over 50 losses
and we got March & April basketball left and you're whacked at Garden to these guys.

Anyhow let someone defend Mike D'Antoni that he's this and that a good coach, right for this team
He's terrible and his coach assistants ain't much better. You can at least Defend & GET MAD when
your play and the boos let you know you're team and you're coaching ain't doing the job.

NO Knick team has ever been as horrible in 2nd half of season as this Knick team.
Its parallels Coach Zeke Thomas team whom I believe never lost as many home games in
a row.

All in all team is very bad right now & its like Knicks as good as forfeit rest of games
if they going to show up and play like this to fool the public.

You got to be honest and ask WHOM Wants to come here ? and play this way for this org. and these coaches ? No one seem to have any idea about being tough on that squad and its led by coach D'Antoni since he's most and more concerned about next season than playing
game right way and finishing up season respectably.

Wish he were gone

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3/6/2010  10:26 PM
One year rentals, most of them
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3/6/2010  10:31 PM
I agree about D'Antoni not being a good coach and I think the only reason a player comes is for the money. That means the big three definitely are not coming and I don't think D'Antoni wants Amare. Joe Johnson maybe the free agent the Knicks get after all of the cap clearing/mortgaging of the future moves.
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3/6/2010  10:32 PM
You think any player is gonna blame MDA for this as opposed to our players? WHo has a winning reputation, these players or MDA? Clearly most of the best players have already spent time with MDA and they love him. Lest we forget that he was part of the Olympic team.
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3/6/2010  10:33 PM
nixluva wrote:You think any player is gonna blame MDA for this as opposed to our players? WHo has a winning reputation, these players or MDA? Clearly most of the best players have already spent time with MDA and they love him. Lest we forget that he was part of the Olympic team.

kinda hard for u to defend the guy when he admits himself he's disappointed in the job he's done as our head coach since he's been here.

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3/6/2010  10:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/6/2010  10:34 PM
nixluva wrote:You think any player is gonna blame MDA for this as opposed to our players? WHo has a winning reputation, these players or MDA? Clearly most of the best players have already spent time with MDA and they love him. Lest we forget that he was part of the Olympic team.

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3/6/2010  10:44 PM
nixluva wrote:You think any player is gonna blame MDA for this as opposed to our players? WHo has a winning reputation, these players or MDA? Clearly most of the best players have already spent time with MDA and they love him. Lest we forget that he was part of the Olympic team.

I cant believe that comment, its as much as foolish as a waste of wind of what you've just said.

Face facts Olympic team OR not the coach has been as horrible as Zeke Thomas worst yr and Thomas had worst team roster wise
than this knick team even before Tmac got here.

You want to Defend MDA ? and his Olympics go right ahead.
You want to accept NO D, or Fight ? in this town go ahead it may be your prerogative it aint mine
Team sux and coaching this season sux & I'm going to run my mouth on it whether its liked or not.
JVG or Riley would not accept this with same roster. You always play for something like NJ did tonight.

That 50 loss team is BETTER than knicks this time of year in the season.
If you like that from your coach go right on brother, enjoy him!

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3/6/2010  10:45 PM
I'm just sayin that anyone with a brain isn't gonna believe that MDA is as bad as he's looked here with this team. DW already said that he knows MDA can coach and that he's gonna stick with him. There's never any excuse for horrid performances, but this isn't like MDA has just rolled the ball out and didn't try. The guy has pride and I know this has got to be killing him. I've been in bad situations that I couldn't fix and had to just endure the whole thing until it was over.

I just don't get the hate for the guy. It's not like we haven't see the team play far better in times past. When the players are doing what they've been coached to do, the team has looked good. Just cuz now that we've been in a lame duck type season where players know that this thing is gonna be broken up and have clearly stopped fighting, people wanna drop kick MDA.

I for one want to see this guy coach a good Knick team and see how it looks.

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3/6/2010  10:46 PM
nixluva wrote:I'm just sayin that anyone with a brain isn't gonna believe that MDA is as bad as he's looked here with this team.

Just you admitting that he has "looked terrible" is the first step.

The next step is to admit that he has "been terrible".

And this is not just about wins. this is on many levels.

oohah

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3/6/2010  10:53 PM
i dont hate the coach, he is doing a bad job though. this team looks un-prepared, poorly coached many games. dude hasnt helped wc/dg/td at all. that is the most egregious error (both the coaches and FO). the guys who are gonna be here needed to get better, and either havent really or dont/didnt play. if the last 2 years were just biding time, shouldnt guys who were gonna be here have been built up in that time frame?
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3/6/2010  10:55 PM
DJMUSIC wrote:JVG or Riley would not accept this with same roster.

neither of them would have stuck around to coach this mess of a team either... but i agree, if the teams they coached ever played w/this complete lack of heart & intensity, they'd have these guys running drills til their legs falled off.

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3/6/2010  11:01 PM
Don't go on like the whole Roster is entire Walsh and his cap $ savings plan
This guy D'Antoni has more input to whom comes and goes than everyone thinks.

Folks can give him Olympic credit and Phoenix Sun-land credit for all the 50 win and success stories he had overseas

Few can give him credit for this season
Last season he got a pass & this yr he is getting a pass sort of
however the teams play is unacceptable and for coach to quit, his players quit

That aint acceptable. You cant talk of getting better the way MDA says and play and coach and
show nothing to fans in fight and anger the way teams come to your Gym and embarrass you and laugh

Nope no no
its unacceptable to this knick fans and I'd bet unacceptable to all of NY Knick followers
Its not about winning, not even the chance earlier at playoffs. ITs about respect for the knick logo
and how you go about your business in NY and how the knicks are losing.

None of this cant even be pinned on Tmac whom matured and I like what he brings to team
But rest of their attitudes need to be thrown in the ocean. Gallo had a great post game interview he was angry
and spoke of respect and defense. Something MDA doesnt show and MDA post game comments are all you need to know
about this season.

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3/6/2010  11:02 PM
sidsanders wrote:i dont hate the coach, he is doing a bad job though. this team looks un-prepared, poorly coached many games. dude hasnt helped wc/dg/td at all. that is the most egregious error (both the coaches and FO). the guys who are gonna be here needed to get better, and either havent really or dont/didnt play. if the last 2 years were just biding time, shouldnt guys who were gonna be here have been built up in that time frame?

Not to defend MDA but the statement that I bolded is what we've been saying about this team for 7 years now. Brown, Isiah, MDA, its all been the same.

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3/6/2010  11:05 PM
Let me add
I've never seen a coach so consumed with AMOUNT of shots and 3 point shots you can get off
that is MDA philosophy even when he had good teams and better rosters

All in all I dont understand it, its like he saying the best DEFENSE is a GOOD OFFENSE
and that is all that counts. That is reason coach Nate McMillan on Olympic team says
MDA confided he dont like big men in NBA cause they slow down the game ..too much

This is your NBA Knickerbocker coach.

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3/6/2010  11:05 PM
nixluva wrote:I'm just sayin that anyone with a brain isn't gonna believe that MDA is as bad as he's looked here with this team. DW already said that he knows MDA can coach and that he's gonna stick with him. There's never any excuse for horrid performances, but this isn't like MDA has just rolled the ball out and didn't try. The guy has pride and I know this has got to be killing him. I've been in bad situations that I couldn't fix and had to just endure the whole thing until it was over.

I just don't get the hate for the guy. It's not like we haven't see the team play far better in times past. When the players are doing what they've been coached to do, the team has looked good. Just cuz now that we've been in a lame duck type season where players know that this thing is gonna be broken up and have clearly stopped fighting, people wanna drop kick MDA.

I for one want to see this guy coach a good Knick team and see how it looks.


The guy has coached an equivalent of three full seasons without Nash. His record is 88-167. For the three years he hasn't had Nash he has won at a rate of .34%. That means he loses 66% of his games. I now believe that Steve Nash was totally deserving of his two mvps and I think he must be a Messier type leader on and off the court. How else could a guy who doesn't communicate expectations to his players, doesn't coach or value defense, doesn't game plan for opponents, doesn't make adjustments during a game, and is totally inept coaching in the final two minutes of a game win like he did in Phoenix?
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oohah wrote:
nixluva wrote:I'm just sayin that anyone with a brain isn't gonna believe that MDA is as bad as he's looked here with this team.

Just you admitting that he has "looked terrible" is the first step.

The next step is to admit that he has "been terrible".

And this is not just about wins. this is on many levels.

oohah

This year has been terrible no question. I just don't see much sense in going over the top as it seems most fans do when things go this bad. DW basically sucked the middle out of the team and it's killing us but i'm not gonna call for the coaches head when i've seen what this guy can do if you give him talented players that care. I'm gonna wait for this summers moves and see what we have next year. DW isn't gonna fire him so why even get into this?

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3/6/2010  11:08 PM
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sidsanders wrote:i dont hate the coach, he is doing a bad job though. this team looks un-prepared, poorly coached many games. dude hasnt helped wc/dg/td at all. that is the most egregious error (both the coaches and FO). the guys who are gonna be here needed to get better, and either havent really or dont/didnt play. if the last 2 years were just biding time, shouldnt guys who were gonna be here have been built up in that time frame?

Not to defend MDA but the statement that I bolded is what we've been saying about this team for 7 years now. Brown, Isiah, MDA, its all been the same.

no doubt... though i note my big concern is that the young players who are under contract are not getting the time or not being well coached. if they are being coached, then the talent we have is poor and the FO is failing on talent acquisition. none of those are good. i dont get how they tried to talk playoffs, when it was clear to me as a fan they didnt have much chance at it. so why they didnt play the young guys and find some keepers (who may be cheap which helps the FA plans) made no sense. we got to see bender/duhon/house/tmac/harrington/etc...

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3/6/2010  11:09 PM
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DJMUSIC wrote:JVG or Riley would not accept this with same roster.

neither of them would have stuck around to coach this mess of a team either... but i agree, if the teams they coached ever played w/this complete lack of heart & intensity, they'd have these guys running drills til their legs falled off.

You got it ! TMS and said it best
If you dont DEFEND you'd never get off bench into a game if it was JVG or P.Riley
NEVER unless you show em' defensive stance

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3/6/2010  11:14 PM
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Uptown wrote:
sidsanders wrote:i dont hate the coach, he is doing a bad job though. this team looks un-prepared, poorly coached many games. dude hasnt helped wc/dg/td at all. that is the most egregious error (both the coaches and FO). the guys who are gonna be here needed to get better, and either havent really or dont/didnt play. if the last 2 years were just biding time, shouldnt guys who were gonna be here have been built up in that time frame?

Not to defend MDA but the statement that I bolded is what we've been saying about this team for 7 years now. Brown, Isiah, MDA, its all been the same.

no doubt... though i note my big concern is that the young players who are under contract are not getting the time or not being well coached. if they are being coached, then the talent we have is poor and the FO is failing on talent acquisition. none of those are good. i dont get how they tried to talk playoffs, when it was clear to me as a fan they didnt have much chance at it. so why they didnt play the young guys and find some keepers (who may be cheap which helps the FA plans) made no sense. we got to see bender/duhon/house/tmac/harrington/etc...

They had to keep trying or at least saying the right things. You have season ticket holders and fans coming to games so you have to try and talk positive. Even if you know it may be hard to actually get it done.

I'll say this. Before we ever traded anyone this year, the start of the season was sent up in flames when Duhon and several other players came out slumping. Remember that Gallo was just getting up to speed and so was Chandler. It took them a while to get going and unfortunately when they were ready, Duhon never really got out of his funk and that was the season right there.

For this team to make the playoffs things had to go nearly perfectly to start the year and give them a chance to win. It just wasn't in the cards but in the end we still had every intention to move contracts and clear cap space, so here we are looking towards the summer.

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3/6/2010  11:21 PM
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nixluva wrote:I'm just sayin..
The guy has coached an equivalent of three full seasons without Nash. His record is 88-167. For the three years he hasn't had Nash he has won at a rate of .34%. That means he loses 66% of his games. I now believe that Steve Nash was totally deserving of his two mvps and I think he must be a Messier type leader on and off the court. How else could a guy who doesn't communicate expectations to his players, doesn't coach or value defense, doesn't game plan for opponents, doesn't make adjustments during a game...in the final two minutes of a game win like he did in Phoenix?

I agree with this 150%
I cant stand Phil Jackson and he got all the players from Bull-land, to LA-laker land
But he is the most BEST Adjustment nba coach ever
the adjustment coach has alot to do with winning and Getting things done, especially in nba playoffs

Riley did it for LA and Miami
Jackson and Popovich for their teams
Even Rudy T' was a decent adjustment coach for Rockets title runs.

D'Antoni does what he does best Gets player whom LIKE him regardless if stars, allstars or regulars
play for him and his system concepts philosophy. He never changes and isnt going to now. Players MDA
dont like is kiss of death MDA will ruin them and chase them outta here !
Can you imagine ? anyone having issue with Shaq ? being dealt to you team ? MDA did and had feuded
with S.Kerns (pres) after the deal though MDA tried to make Shaq seem ok in the public.

If knicks with FA are going to go to next level and be in top 10 NBA East they gotta play defense
something MDA talks about but fails to bring in NBA elite coach assistants to teach that on this knick team.

MDA got his family of brothers and confidants ally's whom all suck up to MDA way of doing things
I'd personally like some of old knicks experience OR not come in here and lead the knicks.
Guy's like Ewing , Oak or similar ..even JVG again wouldnt be worse as far as teaching basics of basketball
defending and rebounding.

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