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from alan hahn:

The Plan sounded pretty simple in May 2008, when Donnie Walsh sat across a table from Mike D'Antoni in Scottsdale and outlined the gory details. He would be paid handsomely for the trouble of being the figurehead in a slash-and-burn strategy that would get the Knicks under the salary cap by 2010. Two years of potential misery for the hope of attracting a superstar, or perhaps two, to be part of what could be the greatest rebuild since the Celtics landed KG.

When you're still trembling with anger over a bitter divorce with the Suns and brimming with the desire to avenge, you're willing to take on anything. Especially if it pays as well as the Knicks were willing to pay.

But D'Antoni found himself already overwhelmed by the job by the end of last season. He was rejuvenated some in September, as evidenced by his trademark ebullience, which prompted him to declare Danilo Gallinari "the best shooter I've ever seen." The darts started flying at that point.

By now, they're torpedoes. And each impact is another blow that threatens to sink this ship before it has even set sail.

"I haven't had a good year, that's for sure," D'Antoni said at practice on Tuesday. "What's fair is fair."

Most of the criticism is valid. We've outlined several issues with the coaching this season, but none is greater than this: D'Antoni failed to stay true to himself. Check the archives, we criticized D'Antoni on this last season as well. He came in as the coach of SSOL. He came in with the spread offense, the up-tempo.

By the middle of last season, especially after the impact of the Nov. 21 salary-dumping trades that ravaged the lineup, D'Antoni was so worried about the playoffs that he surrendered his system and sold-out. He let players such as Al Harrington and Nate Robinson dominate the ball and play one-on-one with the hopes that one of them would have a big night and it would be enough to win on most nights.

We saw that strategy fail many times before with Jamal Crawford, etc. And we saw it fail miserably again with Harrington and Robinson, etc. Injuries than took a toll and it all fell apart. And what was left was that the head coach had let go of the wheel.

The greater issue was Chris Duhon's performance as a starter and the Knicks tried to address that in the summer by going after point guards, from Jason Kidd to Andre Miller to Ramon Sessions, etc. The 2010 Plan took precedence, so Duhon was given the ball back for another year. And that blew up right in D'Antoni's face with a 1-9 start.

His reaction was to slow down the offense because Duhon couldn't run it as fast as it needs to be played. Slowing it down meant a greater need for defense, so D'Antoni went with a gimmick -- a 2-3 zone. You could say this desperate move worked out in one way: Jared Jeffries' value skyrocketed.

And in December, it started to click. Robinson was benched and the rotation had some rhythm. That is until Eddy Curry was ready to play. Once again, D'Antoni made a desperate move. He thrust Curry into the rotation for cameo minutes (worried about showcasing him for a trade) and as a result it sandbagged the chemistry on the court and, when he then yanked Curry, he wound up with yet another grumbling player.

Curry should have been worked in as a pick-and-roll player within the system. There was no reason to suddenly force-feed a post-up situation. It looked completely foreign to the rest of the team. But he shouldn't have been yanked, either. It was going to take time, but D'Antoni, again worried about the playoffs, was afraid he didn't have time.

In reality, he had all the time he wanted. Walsh gave him that time when he hired him in May 2008.

Then came Jan. 1, when D'Antoni tossed Robinson back into the lineup to replace a slumping Larry Hughes. It worked for one night, but the long-term impact was devastating on many levels.

D'Antoni is ripped by "experts" for such cliche things: not fouling up three, not communicating his every decision with players, for not emphasizing defense. But the real criticism - what sums all of it up - is that D'Antoni coached scared. Worried about losing when the expectations were so low to begin with.

His lack of self-confidence was never more evident than in February, when his body language showed a coach on the verge of surrender. No one ever said a word to Al Harrington about dominating the ball. No one challenged all-star David Lee to give up his body on defense and then be a leader and call out teammates who didn't stay with their man, which caused him to have to use fouls to protect the basket. That's how it's supposed to go. Lee to the bench with early foul trouble and then someone gets an earful because an important player is now out of the game. Lee bailed out his teammates by doing nothing and, as a result, took all the blame instead. Weak.

Mostly, D'Antoni failed to hit the breaks as the wheels were obviously falling off and announce that the veterans had their chance and now it was time for the future. That Danilo Gallinari and Wilson Chandler would be featured and whoever didn't buy into that wouldn't play. We knew it was a matter of time before Duhon would be unceremoniously dumped once a new point guard arrived, and that happened when Sergio Rodriguez pulled on a Knicks uniform. D'Antoni couldn't rely on Toney Douglas to handle the job because Douglas wasn't ready to do it. But he should have been playing so that he would have been ready.

But D'Antoni wouldn't give up the season. So he kept gambling and kept making desperate moves. He sank deeper and deeper into debt until he was laying shirtless on the Strip in a daze, wondering how he could have lost it all.

That moment came as he glared at LeBron James and Delonte West dancing on the court after one of many highlight plays against his lifeless Knicks.

Exactly four months to the day when The Plan that Walsh outlined for him was about to engage, D'Antoni looked as alone as a coach could look on a basketball court.

Really, this man -- like many fans -- had no idea what he got himself into. The money might have been less, but the safer bet would have been to take the Chicago Bulls job. In hindsight, he would have had Derrick Rose and also salary cap space in 2010.

Would the Knicks have been better off, as well? Keep in mind that Walsh's other option in 2008 was Mark Jackson, who had no prior experience as a head coach. Would Jackson have kept Stephon Marbury, played an out-of-shape Eddy Curry and squeezed actual defense out of a lineup with Marbury, Curry, David Lee, Zach Randolph and Jamal Crawford?

Would Jackson have had the Knicks playing well enough to where Crawford and Randolph actually had trade value to make those cap-clearing trades on Nov. 21, 2008? Don't answer that with today's knowledge. Answer that with how you felt about those players before the 2008-09 season and be totally honest with yourself.

Where would the Knicks be? It's something to waste your time with between now and July 1, but usesless all the same. Perhaps Jackson would have brought Patrick Ewing in as part of his coaching staff. That would be wonderful. Would it have made Eddy Curry care more? Would Jackson have gotten through to Marbury like Isiah couldn't (remember, there was a time Marbury viewed Isiah as a mentor).

Be careful what you wish, Fixers. They've been playing this game for almost a decade here, since Jeff Van Gundy walked out the door on Dec. 8, 2001 with a 10-9 record.

Lenny Wilkens, Larry Brown, Isiah Thomas and now Mike D'Antoni. There does come a time when the blame goes solely on the players and the lack of real talent.

That's what The Plan is supposed to change.

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3/3/2010  2:17 PM
No **** Sherlock.
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3/3/2010  2:20 PM
Alan Hahn trying to cover his own ass as well. Pretty pathetic tactic from a journalist.
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3/3/2010  2:24 PM
crawford & zach were traded 11 games into the season - hardly enough games to say d'antoni *turned* them into valuable assets.
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3/3/2010  2:33 PM
The timing is great for this piece. After multiple media outlets start to take off the kid's glove with D'Antoni and see his job performance as it stands on its own merit and question whether he is the right guy to go forward with this team no matter what happens in the summer. Only now does this guy do some soul searching.
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3/3/2010  2:39 PM
yea man... I have been saying since I defended Don Chaney's coaching job.

This will be a very interesting post season. A humbled MDA is a positive. Walsh is a guy who historically gets the guys his coaches want. I think this is where a lot of things go wrong. To many egomaniac coaches think they can work with a player who simply isnt talented enough. I bed MDA thought he could get Duhon to run his offense and he simply wasnt good enough.

Walsh either needs to get MDA the PG he needs or build a different kind of team

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3/3/2010  2:47 PM
D'Antoni's failure stems from Dudu's poor play. MDA offense relies heavily on the PG.
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NYKBocker wrote:D'Antoni's failure stems from Dudu's poor play. MDA offense relies heavily on the PG.
that just shows you how ill prepared we were to compete. If you success lives and dies (it did) with Chris Duhon's play you can be suprised to be a .300 team back to back years
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fishmike wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:D'Antoni's failure stems from Dudu's poor play. MDA offense relies heavily on the PG.
that just shows you how ill prepared we were to compete. If you success lives and dies (it did) with Chris Duhon's play you can be suprised to be a .300 team back to back years

?? Chris Duhon was MDA's choice. That was the guy he wanted to run his offense. That's the guy who he stated fits his offense the best. The pure point, with the high BB IQ, pass first pg and perimeter defender.

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3/3/2010  4:35 PM
Maybe Alan Hahn should try coaching.

He couldn't be any worse at it than he is as a journalist turned blogger.


D'Antoni's failure is a result of the mutual plan between Walsh/Mike that the roster would need to be torn down and then rebuilt starting in 2010.

Confusing where this stuff comes from or why. The plan has been there since day 1. Everything we have done is about "the plan". And the plan is only half done. We finished tearing down the roster best we could (sans Curry). Now we're waiting for the day where we can start phase 2: Build a new team.

Not so sure what's so hard to comprehend here but it sure does seem challenging to a great many.

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Pharzeone wrote:
fishmike wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:D'Antoni's failure stems from Dudu's poor play. MDA offense relies heavily on the PG.
that just shows you how ill prepared we were to compete. If you success lives and dies (it did) with Chris Duhon's play you can be suprised to be a .300 team back to back years

?? Chris Duhon was MDA's choice. That was the guy he wanted to run his offense. That's the guy who he stated fits his offense the best. The pure point, with the high BB IQ, pass first pg and perimeter defender.

his choice out of what options? come on now. we needed a guy who'd accept a two year deal. that alone made it slim pickins.

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3/3/2010  4:40 PM
i just hope this season makes d'antoni realize they need some size. i'm not optimistic it will though.
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eViL wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:
fishmike wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:D'Antoni's failure stems from Dudu's poor play. MDA offense relies heavily on the PG.
that just shows you how ill prepared we were to compete. If you success lives and dies (it did) with Chris Duhon's play you can be suprised to be a .300 team back to back years

?? Chris Duhon was MDA's choice. That was the guy he wanted to run his offense. That's the guy who he stated fits his offense the best. The pure point, with the high BB IQ, pass first pg and perimeter defender.

his choice out of what options? come on now. we needed a guy who'd accept a two year deal. that alone made it slim pickins.

It wasn't slim pickings. That's creative revisionist history. He always like Duhon and got Coach K's blessing. Walsh was on Duhon like white on rice on July 2. He wanted Roberson for the longest and got him. He got the guys he wanted.

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Pharzeone wrote:
eViL wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:
fishmike wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:D'Antoni's failure stems from Dudu's poor play. MDA offense relies heavily on the PG.
that just shows you how ill prepared we were to compete. If you success lives and dies (it did) with Chris Duhon's play you can be suprised to be a .300 team back to back years

?? Chris Duhon was MDA's choice. That was the guy he wanted to run his offense. That's the guy who he stated fits his offense the best. The pure point, with the high BB IQ, pass first pg and perimeter defender.

his choice out of what options? come on now. we needed a guy who'd accept a two year deal. that alone made it slim pickins.

It wasn't slim pickings. That's creative revisionist history. He always like Duhon and got Coach K's blessing. Walsh was on Duhon like white on rice on July 2. He wanted Roberson for the longest and got him. He got the guys he wanted.

um. no.

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3/3/2010  4:49 PM
could not find one guy on this list that would have taken a 2-year deal that we passed up.

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crzymdups wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:
eViL wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:
fishmike wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:D'Antoni's failure stems from Dudu's poor play. MDA offense relies heavily on the PG.
that just shows you how ill prepared we were to compete. If you success lives and dies (it did) with Chris Duhon's play you can be suprised to be a .300 team back to back years

?? Chris Duhon was MDA's choice. That was the guy he wanted to run his offense. That's the guy who he stated fits his offense the best. The pure point, with the high BB IQ, pass first pg and perimeter defender.

his choice out of what options? come on now. we needed a guy who'd accept a two year deal. that alone made it slim pickins.

It wasn't slim pickings. That's creative revisionist history. He always like Duhon and got Coach K's blessing. Walsh was on Duhon like white on rice on July 2. He wanted Roberson for the longest and got him. He got the guys he wanted.

um. no.

um.. wait let me think about it. Oh yeah, yes.

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Pharzeone wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:
eViL wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:
fishmike wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:D'Antoni's failure stems from Dudu's poor play. MDA offense relies heavily on the PG.
that just shows you how ill prepared we were to compete. If you success lives and dies (it did) with Chris Duhon's play you can be suprised to be a .300 team back to back years

?? Chris Duhon was MDA's choice. That was the guy he wanted to run his offense. That's the guy who he stated fits his offense the best. The pure point, with the high BB IQ, pass first pg and perimeter defender.

his choice out of what options? come on now. we needed a guy who'd accept a two year deal. that alone made it slim pickins.

It wasn't slim pickings. That's creative revisionist history. He always like Duhon and got Coach K's blessing. Walsh was on Duhon like white on rice on July 2. He wanted Roberson for the longest and got him. He got the guys he wanted.

um. no.

um.. wait let me think about it. Oh yeah, yes.

not exactly a plethora of options that summer, phar. peep it.

http://www.sportscity.com/NBA/NBA-Free-Agents-2008/

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3/3/2010  4:57 PM
I don't what anyone would take if you don't offer it to them but I know that wasn't even an option on this team. Because they were on him like white on rice.


Knicks looking to demote Chris Duhon to bench for next season

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2009/04/11/2009-04-11_knicks_looking_to_demote_chris_duhon_to_bench_for_next_season.html#ixzz0h9Y7dFtN


Chris Duhon was an unexcused no-show in February when the Knicks' charter flight returned home from Miami the morning after their loss to Dwyane Wade and the Heat.

When Stephon Marbury went AWOL in November of 2007, his disappearance became national news. Duhon's error in judgment, however, barely caused a ripple outside of the Knicks organization.

The official word was that Duhon overslept, which is entirely plausible. But the incident did raise additional concerns about Duhon's lifestyle - which were first broached last summer before Duhon joined the Knicks on a two-year, $12 million contract - and whether his affinity for the nightlife is directly linked to the point guard's rapidly declining play during the second half of the season.

As Donnie Walsh and Mike D'Antoni evaluate 2008-09 and begin building next season's team, Duhon's future will be one of the main topics. According to a source, the Knicks will try to upgrade at the position with the idea of making Duhon the backup, which appears to be a more suitable role for him.

A trade is not out of the question since Duhon is entering the final year of his contract. However, Duhon has a strong supporter in D'Antoni, who, on the advice of Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski, lobbied Walsh to sign the point guard last July.

The move paved the way for the Knicks to begin divorce proceedings with Marbury, the incumbent starter who never played a minute this season before negotiating a buyout two months ago.

D'Antoni had enough confidence in Duhon that he anointed him the starting point guard before training camp began and demoted the more accomplished Marbury. For a time, the controversial decision appeared to be the proper move. In the Knicks' first 46 games, Duhon averaged 12.7 points, eight assists and 2.85 turnovers. Plus, the Knicks were in the thick of the playoff hunt, going 21-25 through January.

But as Duhon has fallen off, so too have the Knicks. Since Feb.1, Duhon has averaged 10.1 points, 6.1 assists and 2.87 turnovers while the Knicks have gone 10-24 and managed to go from playoff contender to irrelevant.

Duhon has acknowledged that his body has felt the impact of averaging a career-high 37 minutes per game. Duhon enters tonight's final road game, against the Heat, having already played 2,849 minutes, shattering his previous high of 2,177 set during his rookie season of 2004-05 with Chicago.

Duhon clearly looks a step slower and that became apparent two weeks ago against the Utah Jazz when Deron Williams easily beat him to a loose ball even though Duhon was at least three feet closer to it. Scouts have also noticed that D'Antoni's renowned running game has become a jogging game over the last few months with Duhon running the point.

Once D'Antoni determined that Marbury didn't fit into his plans, the Knicks suffered because they didn't have a suitable backup to limit Duhon's minutes. Nate Robinson is more of a scoring guard whose poor decision-making drives D'Antoni crazy. Signing Anthony Roberson over the summer was a mistake since he was a shooting guard who never found his stroke, and he was eventually traded to the Bulls in the Larry Hughes deal.

This summer the Knicks may explore the possibility of acquiring Steve Nash, the maestro of D'Antoni's "Seven Seconds or Less" offense in Phoenix. According to sources, the Suns want to sign Nash to a contract extension but would honor his request for a trade if he was looking to move on. Whether the Suns would agree to a deal with the Knicks, however, remains to be seen.

There is also talk of the Charlotte Bobcats looking to move Raymond Felton. Philadelphia's Andre Miller would be an ideal fit, but the Sixers are expected to re-sign him.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2009/04/11/2009-04-11_knicks_looking_to_demote_chris_duhon_to_bench_for_next_season.html#ixzz0h9XyzQ1P

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eViL wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:
eViL wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:
fishmike wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:D'Antoni's failure stems from Dudu's poor play. MDA offense relies heavily on the PG.
that just shows you how ill prepared we were to compete. If you success lives and dies (it did) with Chris Duhon's play you can be suprised to be a .300 team back to back years

?? Chris Duhon was MDA's choice. That was the guy he wanted to run his offense. That's the guy who he stated fits his offense the best. The pure point, with the high BB IQ, pass first pg and perimeter defender.

his choice out of what options? come on now. we needed a guy who'd accept a two year deal. that alone made it slim pickins.

It wasn't slim pickings. That's creative revisionist history. He always like Duhon and got Coach K's blessing. Walsh was on Duhon like white on rice on July 2. He wanted Roberson for the longest and got him. He got the guys he wanted.

um. no.

um.. wait let me think about it. Oh yeah, yes.

not exactly a plethora of options that summer, phar. peep it.

http://www.sportscity.com/NBA/NBA-Free-Agents-2008/

The point is he got his man. The guy he wanted to run his offense. Now if that doesn't work out then that is on the coach and the player.

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3/3/2010  5:00 PM
crzymdups wrote:i just hope this season makes d'antoni realize they need some size. i'm not optimistic it will though.

Mike doesn't do half court.

Most "size" plays half court.


The perfect center for Mike would be Mehmet Okur. Or Bargnani. I guess Bosh could work as well.

But those guys don't play "size" they play like shooters.

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