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playa2
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2/24/2010  12:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/24/2010  12:10 PM
Danilo Gallinari continues to be lost in the mix. He had just eight shot attempts (two makes) on Monday, last night 5 attempts with just 1 make. Last 4 games he shooting 32% or so. Is it the rookie wall, is it his arm ?

last 3 games he's scored 5,5 and 7 points. Someone give me some 411 on his play.

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2/24/2010  12:10 PM
I don't know anymore. He's really slowed down and taken a back seat.

I don't really know the reason. Perhaps he's just not all that good. Perhaps he's hitting a wall in terms of fatigue. Perhaps his back and arm bother him enough to make him slow down.

I just don't know and I don't know how to get a good read on it anymore.

I do know he is overweight by about 15 pounds. That to me is evident and he is slow. I do know he is lacking aggression. Is that personality or is that due to fatigue and nagging physical problems.

I don't know.

I think it's getting to the point where we won't know until the next year. Then if he looks like this next pre-season and beyond? Well, we got a bust.

But, to say it one more time, I just don't know.

I do know I don't like anything I have seen in recent weeks from him and it's got me concerned.

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2/24/2010  12:23 PM
I'm seeing a lack of confidence and aggression. He's had some clear paths to the basket but passed the ball back out instead of trying to finish and draw contact at the rim. He's been hesitant on his jumper and lazy in not pump faking guys running at him and driving around them as he should. I can't figure out why.
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2/24/2010  12:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/24/2010  12:30 PM
He needs to move in from 30 feet and be more aggressive. How does a player succeed when he sets up 30 feet from the basket? He's got to move without the ball--being aggressive getting the ball--setting up in the post--driving to the basket. the 3 point shot is a horrible thing for this kid. If I was the coach I would say no 3s until you take 6-7 2's--when you move without the ball--when you drive the ball to the basket when you set up in the post--good things will happen. If you set up 30 feet from the basket and hope to see pass--you wont be anything but a specialist--it's that simple. Its up to Danillo--either he is a pssy who wants to hide out 30 feet from the basket or he wants to get into the game. MDA is a horrible influence on this kid in terms of his game. Isnt a coach supposed to put you in position to succeed and get the most out of you--is that the case here?
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2/24/2010  12:30 PM
I'm concerned. Danilo Gallinari is down to 41% shooting for the season, which is awful for a spot-up shooter. Which is all Gallo is at this time.
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2/24/2010  12:46 PM
MDA sucks at player development. Gallo has to do like Chandler did earlier in the season and pull aside one of their assistants to work on his game on his own time. MDA is not concern about it. I agree with you Briggs, the head coach is a horrible influence on these young guys. Listening to T-Mac last night, he sounded more concern about their correct development than the head coach and the guy hasn't even been here a full week yet.
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2/24/2010  12:50 PM
i think he's hit the rookie wall - this is the longest season he's ever played.

also, i think he's struggling to find his role in the new system.

you guys with your overreactions. he'll be fine.

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2/24/2010  12:53 PM
What does it mean to be a Gallo supporter?

His 8 games in Feb have been bad. Fewer shot attempts, lower %, etc etc.

He has been very active on defense. I dont see anything wrong with him physically. How about that dunk the other night?
Dude takes 2 dribbles from the top of the 3 point line and ends up slamming it Bogut's face.

Rookie wall? League adjusting to him? All possible.

Take it year by year. Does anyone doubt he will get better? Most of the non-supporters said the dude will be lucky to play, bad back, still legs, bla bla bla...

I guess now we can just talk about the 21 year old player we have and how he's going to get better and help this team become a winner.

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2/24/2010  12:54 PM
Kool-aid drinker here. I have had the same thoughts on Gallo lately. Truth is, I don't see much difference in his positioning on the court, he seems to be spending a significant amount of time on the perimeter. Now, I have seen him in the post a couple more times, but he doesn't look altogether comfortable there. More than before, I have seen him pass up shots that he would have taken. I am not sure if his confidence is wiped out or if he has some lingering injury issues with his forearm. I'd like to see him shooting more. I am curious what he looks like in practice. I hope one of Hahn's articles addresses this.
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2/24/2010  1:07 PM
I think the arm injury messed up his rhythm and now that we traded for McGrady and House, I think Gallo is going through an adjustment period on how to fit in.

He is a very unselfish player and I think that is hurting him right now because he is taking a back seat and watching the new guys shoot the ball. Gallo is a very accurate shooter but he needs a few shots to get going and lately, he has only been taking a few shots throughout the entire game.

I think he'll be fine though, he is a smart player and I think he'll adjust.

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2/24/2010  1:15 PM
s3231 wrote:I think the arm injury messed up his rhythm and now that we traded for McGrady and House, I think Gallo is going through an adjustment period on how to fit in.

He is a very unselfish player and I think that is hurting him right now because he is taking a back seat and watching the new guys shoot the ball. Gallo is a very accurate shooter but he needs a few shots to get going and lately, he has only been taking a few shots throughout the entire game.

I think he'll be fine though, he is a smart player and I think he'll adjust.

Word. s3231 summed it up nicely here. He is off-rhythm right now, and an injection of new blood hasn't helped matters. He certainly doesn't lack skills or aggression (i.e., that slam was bonafide posterization). Remember that it's his rookie year. He will be fine. WIsh he wouldn't be bricking shots as of late, but he has a sweet stroke and he'll get his legs back. It almost looks as if he's releasing too quickly on some shots, and on others it looks like he hesitates a split second while deciding what to do (i.e., shoot, pass, drive).

I am not worried about him. The team is very unsettled right now. We can't expect them to gel with so much in flux.

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2/24/2010  1:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/24/2010  1:38 PM
fishmike wrote: How about that dunk the other night?
Dude takes 2 dribbles from the top of the 3 point line and ends up slamming it Bogut's face.

From your description, Gallinari must have had another dunk against the Bucks that I did not see.

Because the dunk I saw, Gallinari dribbled down the lane, saw that nobody was guarding the rim and did a two-handed finger-tip slam-dunk on nobody.

Nice dunk, but more impressive from an agility standpoint than from an athleticism point of view. The nicest thing was that he did not settle or kick the ball out because 9 times out of ten when he gets within 8 feet of the basket he is looking all pass and no shot.

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2/24/2010  1:49 PM
Danilo Gallinari continues to be lost in the mix. He had just eight shot attempts (two makes) on Monday, last night 5 attempts with just 1 make. Last 4 games he shooting 32% or so. Is it the rookie wall, is it his arm ?
last 3 games he's scored 5,5 and 7 points. Someone give me some 411 on his play.

Since T-Mac came into town you knew either Gallo or Chandler would get lost in the mix and looks like Gallo is it.

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2/24/2010  2:04 PM
Gallo needs a week off. He looks tired. But he still has his game smarts and his 1 v 1 D has been very good in most cases. He was playing Rondo most of the time he was in last night. I created a thread about Gallo playing C for the rest of the season. Although he is small, I think he would do a decent job defending and offensivley, he would then be going against a 4 or 5 not a 3.

As for plays being called for him, I am not sure what is going on. I would think MDA would want to make Gallo shine as much as possible. The better Gallo looks, the more likely a star is to come this summer.

Up until the deals last week, Gallo had the highest BB IQ on the team. Now I think its T-MAC and maybe SROD above him but no one else.

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2/24/2010  2:09 PM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Gallo needs a week off. He looks tired. But he still has his game smarts and his 1 v 1 D has been very good in most cases. He was playing Rondo most of the time he was in last night. I created a thread about Gallo playing C for the rest of the season. Although he is small, I think he would do a decent job defending and offensivley, he would then be going against a 4 or 5 not a 3.

As for plays being called for him, I am not sure what is going on. I would think MDA would want to make Gallo shine as much as possible. The better Gallo looks, the more likely a star is to come this summer.

Up until the deals last week, Gallo had the highest BB IQ on the team. Now I think its T-MAC and maybe SROD above him but no one else.

If his BB IQ was as high as you proclaim he would be noticeable in a certain stat area. For example, he would he either be a top scorer or a top assist guy on this team. He is neither. His BB IQ seems to be average and it was one of the exaggerated parts about his game. Now is not the time to keep quoting selling points on the pick but to actually develop his game.

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2/24/2010  2:27 PM
oohah wrote:
fishmike wrote: How about that dunk the other night?
Dude takes 2 dribbles from the top of the 3 point line and ends up slamming it Bogut's face.

From your description, Gallinari must have had another dunk against the Bucks that I did not see.

Because the dunk I saw, Gallinari dribbled down the lane, saw that nobody was guarding the rim and did a two-handed finger-tip slam-dunk on nobody.

Nice dunk, but more impressive from an agility standpoint than from an athleticism point of view. The nicest thing was that he did not settle or kick the ball out because 9 times out of ten when he gets within 8 feet of the basket he is looking all pass and no shot.

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there were two guys in the paint standing there. I think if anything else they were shocked he made that move. I thought they were out of position because they expected him to pull up for a 10 foot jumper. Instead he jumped right to the rin and dunked it with two hands. Point is the non-supporters make him out to be some soft euro trash that just sits outside the arc. He isnt and doesnt. Does he need to be more aggressive? More involved? A big yes to both. Is that a knock on him or his game? Sounds like part of the maturation process. Dude's 21. I like what I see potential wise. Do you?
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2/24/2010  2:29 PM
Cosmic wrote:I don't know anymore. He's really slowed down and taken a back seat.

I don't really know the reason. Perhaps he's just not all that good. Perhaps he's hitting a wall in terms of fatigue. Perhaps his back and arm bother him enough to make him slow down.

I just don't know and I don't know how to get a good read on it anymore.

I do know he is overweight by about 15 pounds. That to me is evident and he is slow. I do know he is lacking aggression. Is that personality or is that due to fatigue and nagging physical problems.

I don't know.

I think it's getting to the point where we won't know until the next year. Then if he looks like this next pre-season and beyond? Well, we got a bust.

But, to say it one more time, I just don't know.

I do know I don't like anything I have seen in recent weeks from him and it's got me concerned.

so let me get this straight cos... You don't know whats wrong with gallo.. right? LOL.. J/k

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2/24/2010  2:30 PM
Pharzeone wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Gallo needs a week off. He looks tired. But he still has his game smarts and his 1 v 1 D has been very good in most cases. He was playing Rondo most of the time he was in last night. I created a thread about Gallo playing C for the rest of the season. Although he is small, I think he would do a decent job defending and offensivley, he would then be going against a 4 or 5 not a 3.

As for plays being called for him, I am not sure what is going on. I would think MDA would want to make Gallo shine as much as possible. The better Gallo looks, the more likely a star is to come this summer.

Up until the deals last week, Gallo had the highest BB IQ on the team. Now I think its T-MAC and maybe SROD above him but no one else.

If his BB IQ was as high as you proclaim he would be noticeable in a certain stat area. For example, he would he either be a top scorer or a top assist guy on this team. He is neither. His BB IQ seems to be average and it was one of the exaggerated parts about his game. Now is not the time to keep quoting selling points on the pick but to actually develop his game.


Let's not get carried away dissing the guys game, cuz he actually does know the game and he's displayed more in the past than he's showing right now, but that doesn't just wipe away how well he's played before this down period. It's really hard to know if this is just some adjustment thing or something to be concerned with physically.

Let's just remember that he's already shown that he can play the game and just like Chan has gone thru his ups and downs, young players can sometimes do that. i wouldn't be overly concerned cuz his real development is gonna come in the off season where most guys actually get to work on their weaknesses, like Lee has every year. We'll see how he comes back next year and get a better sense of who his is as he moves forward.

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2/24/2010  2:31 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/24/2010  2:34 PM
Pharzeone wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Gallo needs a week off. He looks tired. But he still has his game smarts and his 1 v 1 D has been very good in most cases. He was playing Rondo most of the time he was in last night. I created a thread about Gallo playing C for the rest of the season. Although he is small, I think he would do a decent job defending and offensivley, he would then be going against a 4 or 5 not a 3.

As for plays being called for him, I am not sure what is going on. I would think MDA would want to make Gallo shine as much as possible. The better Gallo looks, the more likely a star is to come this summer.

Up until the deals last week, Gallo had the highest BB IQ on the team. Now I think its T-MAC and maybe SROD above him but no one else.

If his BB IQ was as high as you proclaim he would be noticeable in a certain stat area. For example, he would he either be a top scorer or a top assist guy on this team. He is neither. His BB IQ seems to be average and it was one of the exaggerated parts about his game. Now is not the time to keep quoting selling points on the pick but to actually develop his game.

Bingo. I dont think he is a bust but I think he was a little over hyped. Ray Allen was muscling Gallo last night. Old ass 6' 5" Ray Allen.

Gallinari gets mad and wants to force jumpers not take the ball inside.

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2/24/2010  2:35 PM
fishmike wrote:What does it mean to be a Gallo supporter?

His 8 games in Feb have been bad. Fewer shot attempts, lower %, etc etc.

He has been very active on defense. I dont see anything wrong with him physically. How about that dunk the other night?
Dude takes 2 dribbles from the top of the 3 point line and ends up slamming it Bogut's face.

Rookie wall? League adjusting to him? All possible.

Take it year by year. Does anyone doubt he will get better? Most of the non-supporters said the dude will be lucky to play, bad back, still legs, bla bla bla...

I guess now we can just talk about the 21 year old player we have and how he's going to get better and help this team become a winner.


I am with you on this one fish.. I think he is fine physically, I just think maybe a bit fatigued. this is a long season for him. Maybe he is lacking a bit of confidence, but I like what he is doing defensively. as you said, the kid shows flashes... And i don't understand when people keep saying he drives but then passes up a shot.. yes, he often passes up a bad shot to get a wide open teamate. He did it last night with chandler and he bricked. a nice drive and kick.. something our PG's didn't do until sergio got here.. Gallo just plays a different game from these clowns.. but ask some raptors fans, this was a similar problem bargs had earlier, and now rudy fernandez with teh blazers is complaining about not touching the ball... what do these guys have in common? ball dominant players. Blazers with roy, a couple of years ago, toronto was going with the bosh iso, and now the knicks with their group of chuckers...

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Can some staunch supporters tell me what happen to Gallanari

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