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oohah
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2/22/2010  10:55 PM
The explanation of Mike D'Antoni's friction with Nate Robinson was that Nate engaged in too many antics, specifically that Robinson did not know how to comport himself professionally during a game.

Eddie House is well known for exuberant trash talk, celebrating etc. He was doing it during the game today with Kurt Thomas.

Will D'Antoni have a different standard for House's behavior? Will D'Antoni discipline him? Will House chill out?

Inquiring minds want to know!

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2/22/2010  11:03 PM
It really is a clash of two qualities in a player for him. He seems to love the one dimensional three point shooter but can't tolerate and will not control the player that doesn't live up to the level of professionalism that he expects them to exhibit but does not communicate to them. There maybe a silent message of less minutes over the next few games given by the coach.
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2/22/2010  11:07 PM
I noticed that too Oohah. I was waiting for Breen to bash him like he did with Nate. But as I knew he would just laugh it off because he is a fan of House.
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2/22/2010  11:12 PM
just as long as Eddie doesn't joke around w/Dwight Howard before the game, he should be straight.
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2/22/2010  11:14 PM
Or shoot at the other teams basket.
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2/22/2010  11:14 PM
Olbrannon wrote:Or shoot at the other teams basket.

Didn't Al do something like that tonight?

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2/22/2010  11:19 PM
Did he? I don't have video and didn't see. I watched a really entertaining basketball game instead.
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2/22/2010  11:30 PM
Pharzeone wrote:
Olbrannon wrote:Or shoot at the other teams basket.

Didn't Al do something like that tonight?

yeah, he did.. I was kinda waiting for a reaction, but none came whatsoever. Guess pringles was in a good mood maybe?

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2/22/2010  11:32 PM
skeng wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:
Olbrannon wrote:Or shoot at the other teams basket.

Didn't Al do something like that tonight?

yeah, he did.. I was kinda waiting for a reaction, but none came whatsoever. Guess pringles was in a good mood maybe?

somebody tell Al the trade deadline has passed already... no use trying to get traded out of here now.

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2/23/2010  12:17 AM
TMS wrote:
skeng wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:
Olbrannon wrote:Or shoot at the other teams basket.

Didn't Al do something like that tonight?

yeah, he did.. I was kinda waiting for a reaction, but none came whatsoever. Guess pringles was in a good mood maybe?

somebody tell Al the trade deadline has passed already... no use trying to get traded out of here now.

Al was the one who lost the game today. But we had no other option at center (LOL) after Lee (another center - big LOL) get 4th.
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2/23/2010  3:34 AM
i don't think Al lost the game tonight... we lost cuz the offense in the 4th quarter was Eddie House catch & shoot... that was it... absolutely nothing else, no plays being called other than Eddie running off screens, catching & firing... that was about as pitiful a game plan as i've seen all year.
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2/23/2010  10:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/23/2010  10:19 PM
Well, tonight I saw House fraternizing with the other team, which was one of Robinson's big transgressions, I saw him take some bad rushed shots, I saw him yell and act out on the court....again

But in the little interview, D'Antoni describes House as a guy who gets the team into it or something like that. Breen also was clinging to House's nuts for his "Energy" but he always dissed Robinson for his lack of control.

Double-talking, double-standards, and duplicitous.

oohah

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2/23/2010  10:21 PM
"how dare you call me duplicitous! i place a hex on you! dizgraziale!"

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2/23/2010  10:31 PM
oohah wrote:Well, tonight I saw House fraternizing with the other team, which was one of Robinson's big transgressions, I saw him take some bad rushed shots, I saw him yell and act out on the court....again

But in the little interview, D'Antoni describes House as a guy who gets the team into it or something like that. Breen also was clinging to House's nuts for his "Energy" but he always dissed Robinson for his lack of control.

Double-talking, double-standards, and duplicitous.

oohah

I have a problem with how you guys are framing this now. You guys seem to be making this about MDA and really the issues he had with some of our players that act up was the same with other coaches and those same players. Nate had issues with MULTIPLE coaches, not just this one. So what does that say about how LB and Isiah got angry with Nate for the same crap?

House also had been playing for winning situations in PHX and Boston and when you WIN, just about anything is forgivable. Look at how Lebron carries on at times. It's all crazy, but that's how it goes. You win and you get away with a lot more.

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2/23/2010  10:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/23/2010  10:39 PM
House aint won shyt. KG, Pierce, Rondo, and Allen won. His stupid ass was just along for the ride.

Pringles man was picking on the lil' guy Nate as a way to scapegoat an easy target for the failures of the team. Makes him look dumb when he looks the other way, when his boy House commits the same "atrocities" that he castigated Nate for.

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2/23/2010  10:41 PM
nixluva wrote:House also had been playing for winning situations in PHX and Boston and when you WIN, just about anything is forgivable. Look at how Lebron carries on at times. It's all crazy, but that's how it goes. You win and you get away with a lot more.

That is some pretty nice rationalizing a double-standard Nix!

I think I see your point: House is soooo good that the behavior he exhibits that is no different from Robinson's should be treated differently. House is the guy who made Phoenix and and Boston good, not Steve Nash, Marion, Stoudemire, Allen, Garnett, Pierce, Rondo.

Yeah, it was HOUSE!!

I guess if Robinson had been lucky enough to be a 9th man some on good teams, then D'Antoni would let him get away with anything!!!

See how ridiculous you sound?

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2/23/2010  10:51 PM
oohah wrote:
nixluva wrote:House also had been playing for winning situations in PHX and Boston and when you WIN, just about anything is forgivable. Look at how Lebron carries on at times. It's all crazy, but that's how it goes. You win and you get away with a lot more.

That is some pretty nice rationalizing a double-standard Nix!

I think I see your point: House is soooo good that the behavior he exhibits that is no different from Robinson's should be treated differently. House is the guy who made Phoenix and and Boston good, not Steve Nash, Marion, Stoudemire, Allen, Garnett, Pierce, Rondo.

Yeah, it was HOUSE!!

I guess if Robinson had been lucky enough to be a 9th man some on good teams, then D'Antoni would let him get away with anything!!!

See how ridiculous you sound?

oohah

DUDE you've got me all wrong here. I'm playing devils advocate for why there may be a different view of certain guys. I don't agree that anyone should be allowed to act like an ass but I realize that when you're considered a winner or are playing in a winning situation things get overlooked that don't get overlooked on losing situations. I never said that HOuse himself was a winner or the reason his teams won. But he was a part of teams that won.

Plus the fact that some guys get labelled and it sticks, like Nate. He will have to live his rep down. House hasn't gotten near the same flack for trash talk or celebrations and to be honest Nate is far more egregious in how he carries on.

Just remember the things Nate has done in the past that really got under the skin of management. Remember the Denver fight and how Nate acted? I could go on and on and find similar events that marked Nate. By comparison House hasn't had near the same stigma attached to him.

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2/23/2010  10:51 PM
The sad thing is that Nate Robinson is probably a better shooter than Eddie House.
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2/23/2010  10:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/23/2010  10:55 PM
nixluva wrote:DUDE you've got me all wrong here. I'm playing devils advocate for why there may be a different view of certain guys. I don't agree that anyone should be allowed to act like an ass but I realize that when you're considered a winner or are playing in a winning situation things get overlooked that don't get overlooked on losing situations. I never said that HOuse himself was a winner or the reason his teams won. But he was a part of teams that won.

Plus the fact that some guys get labelled and it sticks, like Nate. He will have to live his rep down. House hasn't gotten near the same flack for trash talk or celebrations and to be honest Nate is far more egregious in how he carries on.

Just remember the things Nate has done in the past that really got under the skin of management. Remember the Denver fight and how Nate acted? I could go on and on and find similar events that marked Nate. By comparison House hasn't had near the same stigma attached to him.

Stop playing devil's advocate for minute. D'Antoni should be smarter than that. D'Antoni knows both of these guys. Eddie House is a well known ass by the way, and he is pretty egregious, you just haven't had the displeasure of watching him on the regular yet.

You remember farther back than most of us when it comes to the Knicks. The other night during the celebration, Clyde said the best thing about Red Holzman is that he had one set of rules for every player, from the star to the last guy on the bench.

I too have the same philosophy: Treat all your men with equal fairness.

oohah

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2/23/2010  10:58 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:The sad thing is that Nate Robinson is probably a better shooter than Eddie House.

House is a better pure shooter, but House, far too often rushes his shots at the slightest hint of day light as if he'll never get an open look again.

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