You better believe it

That said, I don't have a problem with those who seek it out. To each his/her own. And with a star player, who is going to make waaaaaay more in marketing dollars, it's a not brainer to take less and make your team look better. Your products will sell even more. Sometimes taking one step backwards first, is the best method.

Oh, To prove you point you might not want to start with a sick cult member...

Cosmic wrote:Here we go again with the misinformation.

Knicks can offer 5 years at 10% raises and a starting salary of 16.5M

Cavs can offer 6 years at 12.5% raises and a starting salary of 17.5M

See the difference? It's the SIXTH YEAR. It's an entirely extra year. It's not 30M more over an identical length contract.

So stop with this foolish BS.

You compare 5 years to 5 years and you get your proper difference between the two choices. It's under 10M difference.

And LeBron if he signs here I think it would be a HIGH chance he signs for 3 years. Then he can be extended on a bird rights contract and get his 12.5% raises starting the 4th year.

So just STOP with this "30M MORE" bull****. It's wrong. It's misinformation. It's posted to sound good. And BRIGGS you're acting more and more like a fan that wants the team to fail so you can bitch and moan.

This is getting old. Are you a Knick fan or are you a part of the GKF/Opt/Bluest Troll Troop?

What--what exactly is misinformation about truth? Can the Raptors offer Chris Bosh a contract that would be worth more than 30mm than the Knicks can offer?[only one answer YES]--that's the whole gig Cosmic--that's why they made this rule--it gives the home team a big advantage and rightfully so.
I was entertained by the Knicks last night but I am a realist--you are the one misinformed--there is one question would you give up 30+mm to play somewhere else--I know that there is a smowball's chance in hll that I would NOT--why would i give up something like 34mm $ when I could be traded the following year--it's business and there are only 1-2 chances at best to score. Maybe Lebron or Kobe could take that hit--no one else. Like I mentioned--how many ads does David Lee have after playing for NY for 4 years--I saw him on Sesame Street. He makes no more in endorsements than Carl Landry and he's a young good-looking white all star with a good personality. That type of money is only there for very few choice players. Deal with honesty and reality Cosmic.

BRIGGS wrote:

Cosmic wrote:Here we go again with the misinformation.

Knicks can offer 5 years at 10% raises and a starting salary of 16.5M

Cavs can offer 6 years at 12.5% raises and a starting salary of 17.5M

See the difference? It's the SIXTH YEAR. It's an entirely extra year. It's not 30M more over an identical length contract.

So stop with this foolish BS.

You compare 5 years to 5 years and you get your proper difference between the two choices. It's under 10M difference.

And LeBron if he signs here I think it would be a HIGH chance he signs for 3 years. Then he can be extended on a bird rights contract and get his 12.5% raises starting the 4th year.

So just STOP with this "30M MORE" bull****. It's wrong. It's misinformation. It's posted to sound good. And BRIGGS you're acting more and more like a fan that wants the team to fail so you can bitch and moan.

This is getting old. Are you a Knick fan or are you a part of the GKF/Opt/Bluest Troll Troop?

What--what exactly is misinformation about truth? Can the Raptors offer Chris Bosh a contract that would be worth more than 30mm than the Knicks can offer?[only one answer YES]--that's the whole gig Cosmic--that's why they made this rule--it gives the home team a big advantage and rightfully so.
I was entertained by the Knicks last night but I am a realist--you are the one misinformed--there is one question would you give up 30+mm to play somewhere else--I know that there is a smowball's chance in hll that I would NOT--why would i give up something like 34mm $ when I could be traded the following year--it's business and there are only 1-2 chances at best to score. Maybe Lebron or Kobe could take that hit--no one else. Like I mentioned--how many ads does David Lee have after playing for NY for 4 years--I saw him on Sesame Street. He makes no more in endorsements than Carl Landry and he's a young good-looking white all star with a good personality. That type of money is only there for very few choice players. Deal with honesty and reality Cosmic.

Briggs- I think last nights game epitomized the difference in strategy being pursued by Dolan/Walsh, and the strategy being advocated by many here, like yourself.

Granted, T Mac's first game with the Knicks and first in ages.

But you have a starphuck strategy vs. a team that has sucked but accumulated its franchise player through the draft, and assembled a supporting cast the same way.

In 1 second, I would trade their roster for ours.

If we miss Lebron, we're going to probably suck for the next several years. The Knick Franchise is becoming a joke.

Even if we add Lebron and lets say Bosh, we're capped out, and have to depend on Walsh to find vet min. salary guys to fill the roster out.

Anthony Roberson!

And we know Walsh does not do a great job of evaluating such scrap heap talent.

And then, we have no picks to add players to Bosh/Lebron. So as far as those too can take a roster of scrubs, that is what we have to look forward to for the next several years until they both opt out and go elsewhere!

misterearl wrote:briggs said

"he's a young good-looking white all star with a good personality."

(cough)

briggs, you are conveniently forgetting

the most marketable basketball player

of all time

happens to be black

both of them

Proves the money is not there except for the absolute elite of the game-- Kobe and LeBron. David Lee is a unique player playing in NY who cant get an ad for Jimmy's Pizza on 43rd street.

BRIGGS wrote:

misterearl wrote:briggs said

"he's a young good-looking white all star with a good personality."

(cough)

briggs, you are conveniently forgetting

the most marketable basketball player

of all time

happens to be black

both of them

Proves the money is not there except for the absolute elite of the game-- Kobe and LeBron. David Lee is a unique player playing in NY who cant get an ad for Jimmy's Pizza on 43rd street.

Marketing using bbal players is targeting the consumers who are watching basketball.
If Lee will be hockey player he will be in some commercials like "Not tough enough to drive Tachoma?" or "Home Depot will help you with you home inmrovement project"
To start with I will put him in Cobe-Lebron pupet comemrcials dressed as General Lee.

Cosmic wrote:I'm not explaining it to you twice, BRIGGS, go back and read the post I already put in this thread and stop being dense.

It's not 30M more. So just STOP.

It's 30mm more + my friend--anyway you want to view it. 5 years 70mm versus 6 years 104mm. I guess you can guarantee that a player will make an additional 30mm once his 5 year contract is up. I'm not the dense one here my man.

Marv wrote:

BasketballJones wrote:What if LeBron blows out his knee before the contract is up? He might not get signed again at that level. He's better off with the longer contract for more $, right?

that won't be a problem. a little rubbing will take of it.

LOL!!!!