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holfresh
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2/20/2010  11:18 PM

If the Knicks don't get free agents this offseason they can wait until next year or the year after...

Really?????...U mean we swapped next years pick and gave up 2012 for naught???...

Are these guys on drugs...Do they think we are stupid???
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2/20/2010  11:24 PM
EXACTLY.

If they don't use all that cap space in 2010 on excellent players at salaries that make sense then we gave up Hill and picks for nothing because Jeffries would have come off the cap in 2011 anyway! When I hear stuff like that from Walsh and some of the announcers (and media types) I can't help but think we are surrounded by morons.

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2/20/2010  11:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/20/2010  11:26 PM
We have to spend this summer even if we do nothing more than to make the 8th seed for the next 3 yrs.
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2/20/2010  11:28 PM
holfresh wrote:
If the Knicks don't get free agents this offseason they can wait until next year or the year after...

Really?????...U mean we swapped next years pick and gave up 2012 for naught???...

Are these guys on drugs...Do they think we are stupid???

Maybe Walsh thinks New York is filled with Houston Rockets fans.

oohah

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2/20/2010  11:28 PM
AnubisADL wrote:We have to spend this summer even if we do nothing more than to make the 8th seed for the next 3 yrs.

cuz of dolan?

GO TEAM VENTURE!!!!!
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2/20/2010  11:31 PM
2 wrongs don't make a right.
It's precisely this kind of thinking that allows opposing GM's take advantage of us.
If we can't get any top tier free agents, how does overpaying 2nd tier agents to use up our cap help us???
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2/20/2010  11:36 PM
knickstorrents wrote:If we can't get any top tier free agents, how does overpaying 2nd tier agents to use up our cap help us???


Don't ask why. Simply put: That is what will happen if the Knicks don't get the top 3 free agents. History and current moves point toward it being true.

oohah

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2/20/2010  11:36 PM
knickstorrents wrote:2 wrongs don't make a right.
It's precisely this kind of thinking that allows opposing GM's take advantage of us.
If we can't get any top tier free agents, how does overpaying 2nd tier agents to use up our cap help us???

The point is why are we giving future picks???...Bro opposing GM's have been having their way with us the last 10 years..
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2/20/2010  11:40 PM
ItalianStallion wrote:EXACTLY.

If they don't use all that cap space in 2010 on excellent players at salaries that make sense then we gave up Hill and picks for nothing because Jeffries would have come off the cap in 2011 anyway! When I hear stuff like that from Walsh and some of the announcers (and media types) I can't help but think we are surrounded by morons.

he's just paving the way for possible failure this summer in landing the players he clearly is aiming for... he's putting it out there that he never once said it was about Lebron, Wade or Bosh this summer because he knows damn well there's a good chance we don't get any 1 of them... this was a huge gamble move & he better hope for his sake it works out, because most Knicks fans aren't so stupid to buy this "flexibility" BS he's dishing out now after making this trade... the Knicks already had flexibility before they made the deal & they had their draft picks to boot... this trade was all in for Lebron James, end of story.

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2/20/2010  11:45 PM
Walsh and Mike are same villains as Laden and Isiah.
They are all involved in conspiracy to destroy NY Knicks and make a fun from NY bbal fans.
The "Secret protocols of NY Knicks haters" was signed and the organization was funded by Boston and LA fans.
Since then the UK knights are fighting desperately and without success with refs, MJ, Reji Miller, Isiah, Dolan, Laden, Walsh, Mike D’Antony and countless other.
And the battle rage on!!!
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2/20/2010  11:45 PM
No doubt. But hopefully Donnie had information we lack prior to making these moves. He's not a moron. Guess we have a few months to mull it over before we know the outcome. Call me crazy, but I am excited and believe something great is on the way to the Garden.
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2/20/2010  11:49 PM

I don't think they have any clue as to the rage that will ensue if they don't produce this summer...
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2/20/2010  11:50 PM
holfresh wrote:
I don't think they have any clue as to the rage that will ensue if they don't produce this summer...

Just imagine, all the dudes who have put all their belief in this "plan" immediately blowing their collective tops!

oohah

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2/20/2010  11:53 PM
Maybe Walsh got assurances from Dolan that he and MDA are safe if they "strike out". Who knows with this organization.
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2/20/2010  11:53 PM
Maybe Walsh got assurances from Dolan that he and MDA are safe if they "strike out". Who knows with this organization.
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2/20/2010  11:59 PM
oohah wrote:
holfresh wrote:
I don't think they have any clue as to the rage that will ensue if they don't produce this summer...

Just imagine, all the dudes who have put all their belief in this "plan" immediately blowing their collective tops!

oohah

This will be really cool.
So you see eather way we cannot lose.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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2/21/2010  12:55 AM
Allen/Lee/McGrady all on the biggest one year deals we can handle? Sergio at the vet min. Promise Tyshaun Taylor we'll buy a pick for him.

Question is where do we find a warm body to play some defense? Bring Balkster back?

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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2/21/2010  8:11 AM
the problem with most knick gm's since 1973 is they traded 1st rd picks for washed up players..see my thread
NY Knicks trades since 1973..most included tradind away 1st rd picks..when 1st rd picks is the way to build an organization..look at the team that played the knicks last night ok sonics..they are good cause they built thru the draft
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2/21/2010  8:28 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/21/2010  10:33 AM
AnubisADL wrote:We have to spend this summer even if we do nothing more than to make the 8th seed for the next 3 yrs.

And that is the major danger with all this. All you guys that are so happy about cap space don't realize that cap space don't mean squat unless you can sign franchise caliber talent. If we miss out on Lebron, Bosh, and Wade, which is far more likely than less likely, then we are going to be stuck overypaying for second-tier players (with no high draft picks for the next 2 years). If you think Walsh is going to just sit on his hands, then you don't understand the pressure he will be under to sign someone. As others noted, if we just hold onto our cap space, then we traded Hill, our 2012 pick, and the 2011 pick swap for nothing because Jeffries was going to fall off the cap anyway. There is no way Walsh is going to do that. He is going to sign someone and is probably going to have to overpay for them, which is going to leave us in an even worse mess than if we had simply cut Jeffries, traded Hill and Douglas for a future picks. If we had done that, we would have created probably an extra $5-$6 mill in cap space (but we would still have our own picks plus whatever we got for Hill and Douglas). Instead, for the privilege of getting $9.4 mill in cap space, we lose our 2012 pick and have give Houston our pick if we suck, which will definitely be the case if we don't sign Lebron, Bosh, or Wade. Walsh may prove to be an even worse GM than IT before it is all over.

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2/21/2010  10:01 AM
ItalianStallion wrote:EXACTLY.

If they don't use all that cap space in 2010 on excellent players at salaries that make sense then we gave up Hill and picks for nothing because Jeffries would have come off the cap in 2011 anyway! When I hear stuff like that from Walsh and some of the announcers (and media types) I can't help but think we are surrounded by morons.

The question is - do you want to be a player for Lebron or not? Only having the ability to sign him was not enough to get him here. Being able to sign 2 increases the chances we will get him.

As far as I am concerned, it was the right move, it cost us a lot, but at least we are really involved this time instead of a joke.

"If at first you don't succeed, then maybe you just SUCK." Kenny Powers
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