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WOODMANnYk
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1/5/2004  9:46 PM
Portland trades:SG Ruben Patterson (6.8 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 1.6 apg in 22.6 minutes)

SF Rasheed Wallace (17.2 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 2.9 apg in 38.8 minutes)
Portland receives: PG Frank Williams (4.9 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 2.4 apg in 13.8 minutes)
SF Shandon Anderson (8.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 1.2 apg in 25.5 minutes)
SF Keith Van Horn (16.9 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.7 apg in 35.1 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +6.2 ppg, +0.7 rpg, and +0.8 apg.


New York trades:PG Frank Williams (4.9 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 2.4 apg in 13.8 minutes)
SF Shandon Anderson (8.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 1.2 apg in 25.5 minutes)
SF Keith Van Horn (16.9 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.7 apg in 35.1 minutes)
New York receives: SG Ruben Patterson (6.8 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 1.6 apg in 23 games)
SF Rasheed Wallace (17.2 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 2.9 apg in 31 games)
Change in team outlook: -6.2 ppg, -0.7 rpg, and -0.8 apg.
TRADE ACCEPTED
1)By acquiring Moochie, Williams becomes expendable. John Nash of Portland is a former NJ nets GM who drafted Van Horn and loves his game.
2)Van Horn with his pristine self will improve the image of the JailBlazers.
3)Stoudimire is already in the trading block so Portland is already looking for another PG.
4)Knicks payroll with the blockbuster trade has now hit 91mm. With Wallace, thats 17mm off the cap if you dont sign him back..
Knicks now have a legit post-up player in Rasheed who'll play the 3.

Pg.Marbury Sg.Houston C.Mutumbo Pf.Thomas Sf.Wallace
Backups: Penney pg,sg,sf. Sg.Patterson, C.Doleac,PF.Sweetney & Othella Harrington, Pg.Mooochie who will occasionally play pg and Marbury Sg. just like Bibby and Bobbie jackson from SAC.

Portland has pg Williams/Stoudamire Sg.Derek A./McInnis, Center is Dale D. PF. Randolph and Sf VanHorn.

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1/5/2004  9:49 PM
What's the trade ID?
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1/5/2004  9:59 PM
Something like that could be nice, but i don't know if Portland would be willing to take on the large contracts, plus i don't know how well Wallace would fit into the current team. I basically see the blockbuster deals ending, and someone like Williams and/or Harrington being dealt. I would gladly deal Williams for a draft pick, as well as Harrington, because we definitely need some flexability in the future.
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1/5/2004  10:12 PM
I dont like Patterson.. I cant see him being a Knick...

IMO, Knicks should calm down and get a decent center..
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1/5/2004  10:21 PM
they have a more than decent center already. We're never getting shaq or duncan
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1/5/2004  10:31 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

What's the trade ID?

You have been assigned Trade ID number 1385512
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1/5/2004  10:35 PM
Posted by Knixkik:

Something like that could be nice, but i don't know if Portland would be willing to take on the large contracts, plus i don't know how well Wallace would fit into the current team. I basically see the blockbuster deals ending, and someone like Williams and/or Harrington being dealt. I would gladly deal Williams for a draft pick, as well as Harrington, because we definitely need some flexability in the future.

In terms of Large contracts, Kemp's buyout from 2 yrs ago for 14.5mm comes off.
Wesley persons 7.7mm comes off.
Sabonis's 3mm comes off along with 3 others players. Thats about 26mm off the Portland's payroll. I didn't even remove Rasheed's yet.
I'm sure Portland can take a couple of contracts since 26mm is coming off their cap after the season..

You can take a look @ http://hoopshype.com/salaries/portland.htm
You'll see Portland's financial situationas a team..
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1/5/2004  10:38 PM
Sounds like a great idea to me.
If portland pulls the trigger on that, I will just die!


Do you understand that we will win a ****ing championship with that team. But we would need Pat Riley to come in and coach us.
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1/5/2004  10:38 PM
Sounds like a great idea to me.
If portland pulls the trigger on that, I will just die!


Do you understand that we will win a ****ing championship with that team. But we would need Pat Riley to come in and coach us.
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1/5/2004  10:38 PM
Sounds like a great idea to me.
If portland pulls the trigger on that, I will just die!


Do you understand that we will win a ****ing championship with that team. But we would need Pat Riley to come in and coach us.
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1/5/2004  10:40 PM
Posted by metra:

I dont like Patterson.. I cant see him being a Knick...

IMO, Knicks should calm down and get a decent center..

I don't like him either but in order to take back, you must also give a little..

Hey at least Shandon's contract which is 30.4mill til 2006-07 gets removed for Patterson's 17.5mm remaining with a player's opt out in 2006-2007 ..
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1/5/2004  10:45 PM
True, but they def need a backup to Deke. The guy can only play 30min max and no one guarantees he'll do good. His last two nights were exceptional (although last game he only had blocks, not many boards) but he's not consistent. I havent checked if there are any good back up C/big PF's available.

This trade only appeals to me because Rasheed adds taste to the team which the Knicks desperately lack (but Marbury will bring it back, hopefully). That and the fact that KVH isnt fit to be a Knick, someone should put him on Utah.
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1/6/2004  1:28 AM
Well I was close!!! There is a trade thats reporting:

On Tuesday, January 06, 2004

The WFAN 660 radio station in New York has reported that Isaiah Thomas is talking to the Blazers on landing Rasheed Wallace in exchange for Keith Van Horn, Frank Williams, and Michael Doleac. More to follow as it develops.

posted by John @ 12:41 AM
http://knicks.realgm.com/
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1/6/2004  1:41 AM
Oh yeah, baby! I like the sound of this one! Knicks fans are gonna have to keep their sneakers on to keep up with Zeke's power moves! This cat is making deals happen a mile a minute...

Messiah Thomas


Making MIRACLES HAPPEN!!!


[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 01/06/2004 01:46:39]
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1/6/2004  3:44 AM
Wow... what an aggressive trade. The Knicks' depth in the frontcourt will really be tested if this trade goes through--- hahaha, I'd even consider re-signing Amaechi.

The trade potentially would clear up cap space... but would it make us a better team?
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1/6/2004  7:45 AM
Tech I'm glad at least you are thinking about chemistry too ! Portland had all the talent in the world and all they did was make the papers and go to the playoffs. If this last trade goes down how many ego's would we have flaring up? Who would be the go to guy at crunch time. Has marbury been asked what is it like playing with Houston or KVH oops Wallace. How long will it take the team to mesh and learn what the coach system ? KT, Wallace,= timebombs!
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1/6/2004  11:22 AM
I am glad some of us have "FAITH", even in the face of the doubters.

Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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1/6/2004  12:17 PM
stop it Hypocrite. These are possibilites not waxed in stone.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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1/6/2004  12:56 PM
Posted by playa2:

stop it Hypocrite. These are possibilites not waxed in stone.

LOL Let the rest of the postas on this board say who the biggest hypocrite in this forum is. You just shot yourself in the head going there. LMAO!
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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1/6/2004  1:44 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

I am glad some of us have "FAITH", even in the face of the doubters.

LISTEN TO YOU, THIS IS WHAT I WAS SAYING WHEN TEAM WAS HEALTHY WHEN FRANK STARTED AT THE POINT and we won 3 blowouts. Look at you now,straight up phoney.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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