guess this should be expected, but wow...

tmac may stil wind up on the knicks, as has been reported elsewhere

TMS wrote:i would much much rather trade the assets involved in the rumored T-Mac deal for Amare instead if i had a choice... at least we'd be getting back a player who's been healthy this season & has produced at a high level... he'd be 1 of the top FA's this summer besides so we could give him a trial run & he can give NY a trial run to see if he wants to stay here longterm... just dunno if Phoenix would be up for it & take Fishlips' contract off our hands in the process tho.

Doesn't seem like D'Antoni wants Amare.

Knicks get Amare and J James
Bulls get Harrington
Suns get Tyrus Thomas, Wilson Chandler, and Mobley contract

C Amare
PF Lee
SF Gallo
SG McGrady
PG Duhon

Why not?

joec32033 wrote:

PresIke wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

PresIke wrote:jesus, there are so many threads with false or not complete info it's crazy...

guess this should be expected, but wow...

tmac may stil wInd up on the knicks, as has been reported elsewhere

There is nothing incomplete or false in my info. Jamison IS a Cav. Amare isn't. There is talk about trying to get the Knicks TMac but if you completely read the article, it said that the Kings and Rockets have a deal in place in case the Knicks fall through. I haven't posted rumor. I posted my opinion.

Make sure your own posts are perfectly 100% supportable before you start knocking those you don't deem supportable enough.

sorry, you're just wrong, my friend. the title of the post is and what you wrote reads:

So now that the givens have been annihilated...

-No TMac to NY

I dunno how more false this can be since nothing has been officially announced, and if they are still discussing tmac to ny, how on earth does that 'annhilate" these so-called "givens" which aren't even givens, or even close to guaranteed to happen, because all the notions you listed were never givens in the first place?

you yourself just wrote that tmac is not coming to ny, when not one single one of us can confirm this statement with any kind of validity...

so, in the end, these are not facts, nor givens...

end of story.

peace.

There is a plan in place to trade him to the Kings. TMac to NY is far from a certainty and at this point one team has a deal in place to acquire him and it is not the Knicks.

You can't prove me wrong with the same reasoning you say I can't prove you wrong. But fact remains the Knicks do not have a deal in place to acquire him and another team does.

There are plenty of other threads to argue semantics. If you like start a thread in the off topic.

okay, but i wasn't arguing that tmac to ny was a certainty, but saying that:

No TMac to NY

is not a statement based in fact, just yet, although it might become true by the end of today, sure.

and that i am not clear at all at how the other things you posted were "givens" since we are talking about speculation, yet even more the case with jamison to cleveland, which was not a big rumor like tmac to the knicks or amare to cleveland.

You can't prove me wrong with the same reasoning you say I can't prove you wrong.

honestly, i don't understand what you are trying to argue here. i am not saying tmac to ny is going to happen, i'm saying with no kind of certainty can any of us say he is NOT going to be on the knicks by the end of today, which is what i was saying is wrong with your statement. i don't need to prove you wrong, just to point to the facts. your statements and the reality of the current situation do not fit together, that's all.

this isn't about semantics, it's about how you made strong statements, and a thread title, that are both blatantly not backed by evidence.

PresIke wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

PresIke wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

PresIke wrote:jesus, there are so many threads with false or not complete info it's crazy...

guess this should be expected, but wow...

tmac may stil wInd up on the knicks, as has been reported elsewhere

There is nothing incomplete or false in my info. Jamison IS a Cav. Amare isn't. There is talk about trying to get the Knicks TMac but if you completely read the article, it said that the Kings and Rockets have a deal in place in case the Knicks fall through. I haven't posted rumor. I posted my opinion.

Make sure your own posts are perfectly 100% supportable before you start knocking those you don't deem supportable enough.

sorry, you're just wrong, my friend. the title of the post is and what you wrote reads:

So now that the givens have been annihilated...

-No TMac to NY

I dunno how more false this can be since nothing has been officially announced, and if they are still discussing tmac to ny, how on earth does that 'annhilate" these so-called "givens" which aren't even givens, or even close to guaranteed to happen, because all the notions you listed were never givens in the first place?

you yourself just wrote that tmac is not coming to ny, when not one single one of us can confirm this statement with any kind of validity...

so, in the end, these are not facts, nor givens...

end of story.

peace.

There is a plan in place to trade him to the Kings. TMac to NY is far from a certainty and at this point one team has a deal in place to acquire him and it is not the Knicks.

You can't prove me wrong with the same reasoning you say I can't prove you wrong. But fact remains the Knicks do not have a deal in place to acquire him and another team does.

There are plenty of other threads to argue semantics. If you like start a thread in the off topic.

okay, but i wasn't arguing that tmac to ny was a certainty, but saying that:

No TMac to NY

is not a statement based in fact, just yet, although it might become true by the end of today, sure.

and that i am not clear at all at how the other things you posted were "givens" since we are talking about speculation, yet even more the case with jamison to cleveland, which was not a big rumor like tmac to the knicks or amare to cleveland.

You can't prove me wrong with the same reasoning you say I can't prove you wrong.

honestly, i don't understand what you are trying to argue here. i am not saying tmac to ny is going to happen, i'm saying with no kind of certainty can any of us say he is NOT going to be on the knicks by the end of today, which is what i was saying is wrong with your statement. i don't need to prove you wrong, just to point to the facts. your statements and the reality of the current situation do not fit together, that's all.

this isn't about semantics, it's about how you made strong statements, and a thread title, that are both blatantly not backed by evidence.

Pres, exactly how late were you to this trade deadline thing? Amare to Cleveland was supposed to happen for a lot of reason that came out over the past 3 days or so. McGrady was supposed to be traded to the Knicks. And he gets traded to the Kings. There is speculation he may get to NY for the same package that was offered to Houston with another player coming here, but he is Kings property.

No one else seems to have a problem with the title or anything else in this thread. If it causes you so much grief you have to type dissertations in the emotional distress it is causing you why are you posting in it?

BasketballJones wrote:

PresIke wrote:this isn't about semantics, it's about how you made strong statements, and a thread title, that are both blatantly not backed by evidence.

Ha ha ha! As if that mattered! lol.

I'm shocked...

...shocked...

kind of.

joec32033 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:i said in another thread, but if i were the kings i would offer Tmac and their maybe a #1 for JRich/Amar'e. if donnie can get either Tmac or Amar'e with the rotted potatoes in our bare cupboard, i will be impressed.

The dude who first reported that TMac to NY was being finalized says the Knicks have no interest in Amare.

Maybe Arn Tellem can help him out too....

i'm saying the kings should bypass the knicks completely and acquire amar'e

crzymdups wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:i said in another thread, but if i were the kings i would offer Tmac and their maybe a #1 for JRich/Amar'e. if donnie can get either Tmac or Amar'e with the rotted potatoes in our bare cupboard, i will be impressed.

The dude who first reported that TMac to NY was being finalized says the Knicks have no interest in Amare.

Maybe Arn Tellem can help him out too....

i'm saying the kings should bypass the knicks completely and acquire amar'e