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jazz74
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2/14/2010  10:16 AM
i was watching the all star classic games and saw some great all stars from the past but it made me think about how stacked some teams were. it was amazing that the knicks in the 90's and even the early bulls and piston teams did as well as they did. i would say the best team that was stacked was........... the cleveland cavaliers. they had top five position players in two key positions with price and daugherty and the rest of the lineup was good with solid role players like nance, williams and elho. they had all of the talent but they just werent mentally tough. they were so soft which was mind boggling and frustrating because they had multiple all stars each year. i know the bulls made everyone miserable but this team lineup wise had very few weaknesses if any.
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2/14/2010  10:46 AM
The Nets team in the early 90's with Anderson, Coleman, Petrovich, Morris, Bowie and Benjamin had alot of talent but never did anything.
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2/14/2010  11:03 AM
late 90s to early 00s New York Rangers were the epitome of mercanarie$ not giving a ****

as for basketball, I agree with Crush. I'll throw out an honorable mention for the Hakeem Olajuwon/Charles Barkley/Scottie Pippen Rockets

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2/14/2010  11:09 AM
The Wizards of the last few years have to be up there. There is a ton of talent up and down that roster, and really, they've sucked since Jeffries left.

All those Charlotte teams when they had Zo and LJ never went anywhere.

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2/14/2010  3:06 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:The Wizards of the last few years have to be up there. There is a ton of talent up and down that roster, and really, they've sucked since Jeffries left.

All those Charlotte teams when they had Zo and LJ never went anywhere.

they were never that good with jj... they have similar issues to the knicks (have had), build around flawed players who suck at d (arenas/aj).

would have been interesting if petro doesnt get killed and daly doesnt walk, what the nets could have grown into.

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2/14/2010  3:23 PM
The Miami Heat had a TON of talent but kept losing to us.
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2/14/2010  3:49 PM
When I think of underachieving teams, the 90 Sonics will always come to mind. Way too many talented players not to win one title, let alone to only make one final appearance which also represented their only conference final appearance. I still don't know how George Karl can sleep at night.
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2/14/2010  3:51 PM
The Mavericks of the mid-'90s springs to mind. J Kidd, Mashburn, Jimmy Jackson...

They were awful 'cause they were immature and fighting over that broad Toni Braxton. Dont blame 'em, tho. But she's proven to be a smut.

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2/14/2010  3:53 PM
CrushAlot wrote:The Nets team in the early 90's with Anderson, Coleman, Petrovich, Morris, Bowie and Benjamin had alot of talent but never did anything.

The best player out of that bunch met an untimely demise. I think the rest of those cats were just overrated and selfish.

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2/14/2010  3:54 PM
Pharzeone wrote:When I think of underachieving teams, the 90 Sonics will always come to mind. Way too many talented players not to win one title, let alone to only make one final appearance which also represented their only conference final appearance. I still don't know how George Karl can sleep at night.

that 1st rnd flop against what in reality was a lame denver team... win 60, and fail a lot.

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2/14/2010  3:56 PM
Another team was the Clippers of the early-to-mid 2000's. Had Brand, Andre Miller, Odum...and they stunk.
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2/14/2010  3:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/14/2010  3:58 PM
sidsanders wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:When I think of underachieving teams, the 90 Sonics will always come to mind. Way too many talented players not to win one title, let alone to only make one final appearance which also represented their only conference final appearance. I still don't know how George Karl can sleep at night.

that 1st rnd flop against what in reality was a lame denver team... win 60, and fail a lot.

Yeah, they had that 2 year window to take advantage of the league in Jordan's absence and they couldnt capitalize. Especially '94, because they would have smashed on the Knicks something fierce. They just didnt have an answer for Motumbo, I think.

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2/14/2010  4:02 PM
sebstar wrote:Another team was the Clippers of the early-to-mid 2000's. Had Brand, Andre Miller, Odum...and they stunk.

im likin the 90s sonics for this "title"... they had the talent, wins, and failed. clips are the clips so failure is always an option.

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2/14/2010  4:05 PM
sidsanders wrote:
sebstar wrote:Another team was the Clippers of the early-to-mid 2000's. Had Brand, Andre Miller, Odum...and they stunk.

im likin the 90s sonics for this "title"... they had the talent, wins, and failed. clips are the clips so failure is always an option.

I disagree. At least the Sonics achieved a Conference title and had a couple of 60 win seasons. They just got upset one year in a 5 game series. They weren't going to be the Bulls in '96.

Teams like the Mavs and Clips had talent to at least make noise and didnt do a damn thing.

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2/14/2010  4:12 PM
sebstar wrote:
sidsanders wrote:
sebstar wrote:Another team was the Clippers of the early-to-mid 2000's. Had Brand, Andre Miller, Odum...and they stunk.

im likin the 90s sonics for this "title"... they had the talent, wins, and failed. clips are the clips so failure is always an option.

I disagree. At least the Sonics achieved a Conference title and had a couple of 60 win seasons. They just got upset one year in a 5 game series. They weren't going to be the Bulls in '96.

Teams like the Mavs and Clips had talent to at least make noise and didnt do a damn thing.

Not just one year. The Late show beat them as well when they had the best record overall in the 1st round. The underdog beat them every year except in 96. I think everyone forgets how much talent was on that team.

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sebstar wrote:
sidsanders wrote:
sebstar wrote:Another team was the Clippers of the early-to-mid 2000's. Had Brand, Andre Miller, Odum...and they stunk.

im likin the 90s sonics for this "title"... they had the talent, wins, and failed. clips are the clips so failure is always an option.

I disagree. At least the Sonics achieved a Conference title and had a couple of 60 win seasons. They just got upset one year in a 5 game series. They weren't going to be the Bulls in '96.

Teams like the Mavs and Clips had talent to at least make noise and didnt do a damn thing.

sea had 2 1st round flops though, and a number of times they had home court and couldnt get to the conf finals. i look at the clips and if they fail, it doesnt shock me. mavs 1st round fail made sense cuz of matchups a bit, though still awful. but sea had the nuggets and lakers back 2 back fails in the 1st round.

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2/14/2010  4:21 PM
Yeah, I hear what ya'll are saying. I guess its just semantics about underachieving from my end.
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2/14/2010  4:22 PM
sidsanders wrote:
sebstar wrote:
sidsanders wrote:
sebstar wrote:Another team was the Clippers of the early-to-mid 2000's. Had Brand, Andre Miller, Odum...and they stunk.

im likin the 90s sonics for this "title"... they had the talent, wins, and failed. clips are the clips so failure is always an option.

I disagree. At least the Sonics achieved a Conference title and had a couple of 60 win seasons. They just got upset one year in a 5 game series. They weren't going to be the Bulls in '96.

Teams like the Mavs and Clips had talent to at least make noise and didnt do a damn thing.

sea had 2 1st round flops though, and a number of times they had home court and couldnt get to the conf finals. i look at the clips and if they fail, it doesnt shock me. mavs 1st round fail made sense cuz of matchups a bit, though still awful. but sea had the nuggets and lakers back 2 back fails in the 1st round.

I can't recall the second round loss but I know it was bad one year too. Was it to the T-Wolves? I seem to remember that one. I remember Bill Walton going nuts about how is this happening, again? In that deep funny voice of his.

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2/14/2010  4:33 PM
The Suns team that Barkley was on with KJ, Majerle, Chambers, etc. that we brawled with had an insane amount of talent.
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2/14/2010  5:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/14/2010  5:44 PM
The Portland Trailblazers when they loaded up on all that talent. I don't even recall the exact year when they were at their peak.

Was it 0203?

That team's BENCH was better than half the league's starting five!

Of course, the NBA was all in the Lakers butt so I still say Portland got screwed that year (and so did the Kings) in the interest of the league wanting to make Kobe/Shaq the new face of the league.

Which well, makes me wonder why I watch these games beyond the same way I watched the WWF in the 80s....knowing it was rigged.

I guess it's just entertainment in the end.

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