Cartman718 wrote:We are 5.5 games out of 8th place.

There are only 32 games left
If the Heat wins half of their games, they'll be at 39 wins.

They'll probably own all kinds of tie-breakers against us, which means we'd have to go 21-11 the rest of the way.

Lets count our sureshot losses for the remainder of the season

@Boston, @Cleveland, @Toronto, @San Antonio, @Boston, Denver, @Utah, Boston, @Orlando, @Toronto

To me, there's no denying these losses, simply because with Boston we will be overmatched at most positions. With Toronto, we are overmatched at PF, C, SG positions. With San Antonio, Parker, Popovich and the Spurs will run rings around us. Denver is a very resilient team and Utah and Orlando and Cleveland are unbeatable at home.

that's 10 losses right there. Add in a couple of our mystery losses to lottery teams and we are mathematically eliminated

I think the KNicks might beat Toronto once. And no loss is a "mystery loss" for this team.

oohah

oohah wrote:
I think the KNicks might beat Toronto once. And no loss is a "mystery loss" for this team.

oohah

BLASPHEMY!!!

Cosmic wrote:1) Still a chance to reduce salary. Trade deadline is next Thursday. We will play everyone we can possibly trade in an effort to dump 2011 salary.

2) Until mathematically eliminated no team ever gives up. We won't. Unfortunately even knowing we're way out of the race we won't be mathematically eliminated until APRIL. So, don't expect some major change in how or who we play.

And this stupid thinking is why we ended up with the 6th and 8th pick every year and not the 1st or 3rd or 4th pick. As if wins when you're not making the Playoffs mean anything. Instead of having a stud like Derrick Rose or Tyreke Evans, we end up with Channing Frye or Danilo Gallinari and Jordan Hill. Argh!!

oohah wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:We are 5.5 games out of 8th place.

There are only 32 games left
If the Heat wins half of their games, they'll be at 39 wins.

They'll probably own all kinds of tie-breakers against us, which means we'd have to go 21-11 the rest of the way.

Lets count our sureshot losses for the remainder of the season

@Boston, @Cleveland, @Toronto, @San Antonio, @Boston, Denver, @Utah, Boston, @Orlando, @Toronto

To me, there's no denying these losses, simply because with Boston we will be overmatched at most positions. With Toronto, we are overmatched at PF, C, SG positions. With San Antonio, Parker, Popovich and the Spurs will run rings around us. Denver is a very resilient team and Utah and Orlando and Cleveland are unbeatable at home.

that's 10 losses right there. Add in a couple of our mystery losses to lottery teams and we are mathematically eliminated

I think the KNicks might beat Toronto once. And no loss is a "mystery loss" for this team.

oohah

Cosmic wrote:1) Still a chance to reduce salary. Trade deadline is next Thursday. We will play everyone we can possibly trade in an effort to dump 2011 salary.

2) Until mathematically eliminated no team ever gives up. We won't. Unfortunately even knowing we're way out of the race we won't be mathematically eliminated until APRIL. So, don't expect some major change in how or who we play.

are you kidding me? until mathematically eliminated??? why do people think miracles can happen with the knicks.....because we are due for one or something? WE ARE ALREADY MATHEMATICALLY ELIMINATED, probabilities are math too! lets assume for a second that we are due for a miracle and we actually get one.....are you better off having a miracle happen and the knicks squeaking into the playoffs or are you better off playing the youngins and developing them? as i said elsewhere in this thread, unless Walsh makes a major trade by the deadline, there is no point in playing the vets anymore. they've just shown why they shouldn't be here next year.

Knicks' Walsh doubtful he can clear more cap space
MARC BERMAN

Last Updated: 10:46 AM, February 10, 2010

Donnie Walsh acknowledged last night it will be nearly impossible for the Knicks to clear more 2010 cap space by the Feb. 18 trade deadline.

Walsh is trying to make a deal in the next eight days -- with acquiring a point guard and Houston's exiled Tracy McGrady their chief priorities.

Walsh -- who won't go to All-Star weekend, feeling he can get more trade work done in New York -- said the chance of clearing more 2010 cap room by trading Jared Jeffries does not look good.

Walsh said if a deal is made, it's likely going to an exchange of expiring contracts.

McGrady's $23 million expiring deal would have to be matched in combining the expiring pacts of a collection of Knicks, including Larry Hughes, Nate Robinson and Al Harrington.

McGrady is the "upgrade in talent" coach Mike D'Antoni hopes is acquired by Feb. 18, but the Rockets have insisted the Knicks give up one of their rookies -- Jordan Hill or Toney Douglas -- in a package and have no interest in Jeffries' long-term contract.

Walsh recently took up Chicago-based trainer Tim Grover's invitation to watch McGrady work out in Chicago. T-Mac has been working out in Chicago since just after Christmas.

The Knicks have had internal discussions about Memphis' third-string point guard Marcus Williams, the ex-Net first-rounder whom Walsh loved coming out of UConn. But the organization isn't convinced Williams is a definite upgrade.

Other PGs with expiring deals on the Knicks' radar include Portland's Steve Blake, Luke Ridnour, Carlos Arroyo, Chucky Atkins and D.J. Augustin, on the block in Charlotte.

The Knicks will have a decision on Robinson, whose contract is expiring and has trade value. They shopped him in December during his 14-game banishment. D'Antoni does not view him as a point guard anymore after his two-game starting audition and could want to swap him for a legit PG. D'Antoni views Chris Duhon as the lone PG on the roster.

"It's real simple strategy," Walsh said. "You get a good player who doesn't hurt you in the summer and helps you now, you consider it. Depending on who you have to give up, I think there's good players who will be available."

The Knicks would love to deal Jeffries and the two years left on his pact. That would give them the room to sign a maximum free agent and still have room to re-sign David Lee or add another prominent free agent.

The Knicks won't take a player with a long-term deal unless he is a bona fide All-Star.

"I'm thinking of finances a lot and it seems like everyone's thinking of finances," Walsh said. "That's what I've been discovering. That's going to make it a little harder."

Asked if the most likely trade is an exchange of players on the last year of their deals, Walsh said, "That's what it looks like."

Regarding their PG woes, D'Antoni said, "This summer we tried to address that situation. We knew there was a little bit of a hole there and hopefully we could get around it. Every once in a while it rears its ugly head."

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