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2/8/2010  7:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2010  7:31 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/new_starting_point_mwFKCo6AKZ7LJFNFGvudVN

Like most, I'm just as frustrated with our pg situation. I would rather see Nate ride it out at the point for a few more games, but I cant really disagree when MDA says that Nate is a shooting guard. Like AI, he is better when he's looking to get his.

It took a while but its good than MDA admitted that he needs to communicate better. I personally never thought that was as big a deal as some made it, but for him to concede to the players is a good gesture, I guess.

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2/8/2010  7:43 AM
I don't get it....is Duhon the point guard of the future??? If the Knicks re-sign him they would have to do it for at least half of what they signed him for the first time...and they need to get a real starter....If they are thinking any other way then this is some real Bull****.
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2/8/2010  8:09 AM
Duhon will be a coach one day; and as we are more concern about Knicks now, Mike is looking at life from other prespectives.
Any guru wants to have his followers.
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2/8/2010  8:10 AM
This makes no sense. Nate Robinson was doing a good job. Mike D'Antoni and his flip flopping and love for Chris Duhon is so dumb.
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2/8/2010  8:31 AM
iSergio wrote:This makes no sense. Nate Robinson was doing a good job. Mike D'Antoni and his flip flopping and love for Chris Duhon is so dumb.

Nate Robinson was scoring well. Nate Robinson wasn't running any offense and it has hurt us at the start of games.

Duhon, for all he stinks, can run at least SOME semblance of an offense.

I tell you what I did like: Benching Chandler's lazy ass and playing Duhon at the 1 and Nate at the 2. That worked very well. Maybe even consider starting Duhon and Nate. Sure we'd be small but when are we not. Chandler is not a SG.

Combos of Duhon-Nate and Nate-Hughes could work for us better than anything else we've had.

I also liked benching Lee and his atrocious defense for Hill who got after it for a while there. Do this more. I'm tired of Lee and his double doubles giving up triple triples on the other end.

Harrington also needs to sit his achey breaky self down. He's just too banged up.

Get hughes in there more again.


In the end this team is trash and is going to be feeling the schedule woes soon enough. But in the meantime make the adjustments. Duhon-Nate, Nate-Hughes - as the 1-2 rotations. Bring in Chandler as the 3 he is off the bench.

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2/8/2010  9:09 AM
Are we keeping Nate long term, beyond this season?

Would it be so wrong to give him another game or two at the starting PG position to see if he could improve and fall into a rhythm?

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2/8/2010  9:11 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2010  9:14 AM
Did I not say D'Antoni is as transparent as a glass window. We lose to the Bucks and Cleveland and Robinson gets yanked. It is foolishness like this that the team tunes him out.
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2/8/2010  9:20 AM
The problem is not Duhon..the problem is we dont have a legitimate PG backing him up.

Duhon cant play 35+ min a game. If the Knicks want any chance of making it to the playoffs THIS SEASON, they need another PG that can run the offense.

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2/8/2010  9:38 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2010  9:39 AM
"It was typical coach-talking-to-his-captain type talk, trying to see what we could do to get this team back to where we were," Duhon told The Post. "What I see we could do differently, what he and I need to do better. There was a lot of brain-storming trying to find solutions."

Not surprisingly, the communication issue came up, with D'Antoni agreeing he needs to talk to the players more often and get their thoughts -- even during a game.
Players have complained publicly and privately D'Antoni doesn't communicate enough individually to guys and define their roles -- with Larry Hughes, Eddy Curry, Robinson, Al Harrington and Darko Milicic headlining the list.

"It's tough being head coach," Duhon said. "We as players think that we can do it, but we really can't. But the main thing is communicating with him more when the game is going on."
Duhon said the coach wants him in particular to be in his ear -- a clear sign how much D'Antoni trusts Duhon's judgment.
"If I'm not even in the game, just watching it from his point of view, trying to make adjustments, helping him out," Duhon said. "Being kind of another assistant coach out there, try this, try that. We need more interaction with him so he can have a better feel. He can't see everything."

What D'Antoni sees is his Robinson starting point guard experiment as a failure.

D'Antoni said he now firmly views Robinson is better suited as a shooting guard off the bench. The Knicks were slaughtered 44-24 in the first quarter against the Cavaliers on Saturday, though Robinson led them back with a scorching 23-point second half. The Knicks were a Duhon 3-pointer from tying with two minutes left.
Robinson and Duhon shared the backcourt in the fourth quarter when the Knicks made their comeback from 23 points down. That will be a combination D'Antoni will look to use to close games. With D'Antoni classifying Robinson as a shooting guard, Hughes will likely see only backup point guard duty, if he plays at all.
"Starting is not that big a deal," Duhon said. "It's more who finishes. My job is to find a way out of the slump I've been in and go back to being myself."
Duhon shot 2 of 6 in Cleveland but had 8 assists. He's been in a shooting rut for five weeks, coinciding with the Knicks on the verge of tumbling out of the playoff race, a season-low 12 games under .500.

Source: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/new_starting_point_mwFKCo6AKZ7LJFNFGvudVN

So D'Antoni just came to the realization Robinson is a SG? Welcome to last year D'Antoni. Obviously D'Antoni isn't that stupid and now he can say "see we lost, we need Duhon". Duhon not starting showed us David Lee is making Duhon look good because Lee gets his stats with or without Duhon.


Above is Duhon career stats. Duhon needs to realize he isnt in a slump. Duhon has played the same way his entire career. Last year was the fluke Duhon, you are a backup plain and simple.

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2/8/2010  9:42 AM
Duhon is the best point guard the Knicks have.
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2/8/2010  9:47 AM
I think D'antoni and Duhon have something going on when the doors are closed. What a joke this is..
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2/8/2010  9:49 AM
nate's a great spark. he's not a starting point. no better at it now than he was 4 years ago. it's no conspiracy, guys.
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2/8/2010  9:50 AM
and duhon is?????
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2/8/2010  9:58 AM
Marv wrote:nate's a great spark. he's not a starting point. no better at it now than he was 4 years ago. it's no conspiracy, guys.

says the man who's a member of duhon's online fan club...

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2/8/2010  10:08 AM
i feel like duhon is the best point guard the team has... but if we're going to give nate a look... why not more than 2 games?

i think the real issue on the team is that there are two offenses on the team - the duhon/dlee pick and roll and the nate/harrington shoot-out. wilson and gallo seem to get table scraps in both. i'd like to see if we could run more set plays for wilson and gallo... let gallo handle the ball more. it also seems like it's time to play jordan hill and toney douglas.

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2/8/2010  10:08 AM
djsunyc wrote:
Marv wrote:nate's a great spark. he's not a starting point. no better at it now than he was 4 years ago. it's no conspiracy, guys.

says the man who's a member of duhon's online fan club...

you get a hat. AND swizzle sticks.

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2/8/2010  10:10 AM
sebstar wrote:and duhon is?????

no, but you lose nate doing what he does best when he's trying to be a 1.

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2/8/2010  10:15 AM
the dnp's to starting (for 2 games) and then back to subbing is similar behavior to larry brown's year.
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2/8/2010  10:20 AM
djsunyc wrote:the dnp's to starting (for 2 games) and then back to subbing is similar behavior to larry brown's year.

Now we can see why Hughs called D'Antoni's rotation "a joke".

Of course D'Antoni's pet only gets demoted for 2 games in a back to back.

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2/8/2010  10:26 AM
EnySpree wrote:I don't get it....is Duhon the point guard of the future??? If the Knicks re-sign him they would have to do it for at least half of what they signed him for the first time...and they need to get a real starter....If they are thinking any other way then this is some real Bull****.

Our future PG isnt here yet. Thats the problem. Duhon is our best option at the point for the time being.

Duhon back in SL, Nate back to the pine.

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