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DJMUSIC
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1/30/2010  10:18 PM
MSG and Donnie Walsh better call the Rotor rooter man, we aint winning games or putting streaks together against
weaker part of schedule.

NY is fast going down the tubes like draino.
We should at least have a draft pick ? this season 2010 draft is a live sleeper
and we got no picks (Thank you Isiah)


Oh well

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1/30/2010  10:33 PM
You only seem to pop up when we lose...
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1/30/2010  10:39 PM
sebstar wrote:You only seem to pop up when we lose...

That is quite often now Buddy
eh ?

When we lose ?
what do you mean like we're winning ? I do not get your point.

You think we've had some winning streaks recently and that popping up
statement aint true. What are we winning ? I was around here when Knicks
had decent December month where were you ?

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1/30/2010  11:47 PM
This is a weird year. When the Knicks were 1-9 it was because this year didn't matter. December was a much better month but there were many reasons for that. A shorter rotation, favorable schedule, and an adjustment in the offense helped with the December success. I think the January record is a more true reflection of what this years team can do.
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1/31/2010  12:09 AM
CrushAlot wrote:This is a weird year. When the Knicks were 1-9 it was because this year didn't matter. December was a much better month but there were many reasons for that. A shorter rotation, favorable schedule, and an adjustment in the offense helped with the December success. I think the January record is a more true reflection of what this years team can do.

true, agreed
I still say though >65% of time or great
so goes the PG & so goes the Team success

we really dont have a REAL PG
the PG play cant be bad and you be successful unless you're full of a team with hall of famers.

I've never ever seen the knicks PG situation this putrid.
You got Duhon (sux) 1 PG and rest of guards on Knicks roster whom NONE are PGs
what the devil kind of team is that ? this is 2010

You mean to tell me even lousy teams cant have 2-3 real PGs on a team ?
What's up Donnie Walsh/ D'Antonio ? with that ?

What team in league know has NO PG if Chris Duhon went down
And that aint saying alot since duhon is Knicks worst PG starter EVER
It aint even a close contest. Duhon is turning into worst backup too since
his game is no game other that SOFT.

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1/31/2010  2:38 AM
DJMUSIC wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:This is a weird year. When the Knicks were 1-9 it was because this year didn't matter. December was a much better month but there were many reasons for that. A shorter rotation, favorable schedule, and an adjustment in the offense helped with the December success. I think the January record is a more true reflection of what this years team can do.

true, agreed
I still say though >65% of time or great
so goes the PG & so goes the Team success

we really dont have a REAL PG
the PG play cant be bad and you be successful unless you're full of a team with hall of famers.

I've never ever seen the knicks PG situation this putrid.
You got Duhon (sux) 1 PG and rest of guards on Knicks roster whom NONE are PGs
what the devil kind of team is that ? this is 2010

You mean to tell me even lousy teams cant have 2-3 real PGs on a team ?
What's up Donnie Walsh/ D'Antonio ? with that ?

What team in league know has NO PG if Chris Duhon went down
And that aint saying alot since duhon is Knicks worst PG starter EVER
It aint even a close contest. Duhon is turning into worst backup too since
his game is no game other that SOFT.


the knicks had some opportunities to have a quality point guard on the roster but they all had questionable character and I think D'Antoni got Walsh to pass on them. Williams, Tisdale and Jennings all would have been nice additions but they don't fit the mold of the compliant vet who never needs an authority figure to steer them in the right direction.
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1/31/2010  4:04 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:This is a weird year. When the Knicks were 1-9 it was because this year didn't matter. December was a much better month but there were many reasons for that. A shorter rotation, favorable schedule, and an adjustment in the offense helped with the December success. I think the January record is a more true reflection of what this years team can do.

true, agreed
I still say though >65% of time or great
so goes the PG & so goes the Team success

we really dont have a REAL PG
the PG play cant be bad and you be successful unless you're full of a team with hall of famers.

I've never ever seen the knicks PG situation this putrid.
You got Duhon (sux) 1 PG and rest of guards on Knicks roster whom NONE are PGs
what the devil kind of team is that ? this is 2010

You mean to tell me even lousy teams cant have 2-3 real PGs on a team ?
What's up Donnie Walsh/ D'Antonio ? with that ?

What team in league know has NO PG if Chris Duhon went down
And that aint saying alot since duhon is Knicks worst PG starter EVER
It aint even a close contest. Duhon is turning into worst backup too since
his game is no game other that SOFT.


the knicks had some opportunities to have a quality point guard on the roster but they all had questionable character and I think D'Antoni got Walsh to pass on them. Williams, Tisdale and Jennings all would have been nice additions but they don't fit the mold of the compliant vet who never needs an authority figure to steer them in the right direction.

I hear ya

It seems D'Antoni is like the old JVG(gundy) Knick coach when it comes to judging draft talent and needs.
I dont say D'Antoni cant provide feedbacks but this doesnt seem like one of his strengths to know college
players and how they can fit.

If I were Walsh I wouldn't leave it to M. D'Antoni to figure out in a draft whom best talents are.

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1/31/2010  4:10 PM
CrushAlot wrote:the knicks had some opportunities to have a quality point guard on the roster but they all had questionable character and I think D'Antoni got Walsh to pass on them. Williams, Tisdale and Jennings all would have been nice additions but they don't fit the mold of the compliant vet who never needs an authority figure to steer them in the right direction.

Eric Maynor & Darren Collison would have fit that mold nicely, too bad they were scooped up by other teams a few picks before ours... Toney Douglas has all the character & personality traits MDA is looking for & he can score, hopefully his PG skills will improve w/more opportunity... i'm not ready to give up on him yet.

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1/31/2010  4:21 PM
TMS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:the knicks had some opportunities to have a quality point guard on the roster but they all had questionable character and I think D'Antoni got Walsh to pass on them. Williams, Tisdale and Jennings all would have been nice additions but they don't fit the mold of the compliant vet who never needs an authority figure to steer them in the right direction.

Eric Maynor & Darren Collison would have fit that mold nicely, too bad they were scooped up by other teams a few picks before ours... Toney Douglas has all the character & personality traits MDA is looking for & he can score, hopefully his PG skills will improve w/more opportunity... i'm not ready to give up on him yet.

I agree w/You TMS
on Douglas. I Liked him when I seen him few times in college.

His Knick play has improved in 1st season over his summer stint.
MDA needs to find a point in season and play him. I know MDA and Knicks trying desparately to win games and get in 2010 playoffs
but I think NY is running out of time. Plus we (Knicks) aren't good enough to play these bums all the time and win consistently
to improve. Its reason now why we see my man J.Hill whom earn some time and is getting better.

The bums I am referring to are Duhon and Harrington, Bender and Jeffries.
Actually Jeffries has improved his consistency (D) and plays a teeny bit smarter than rest of Knicks whom may be more talented than Jared.

I don't think we'll see any of the Knicks I mentioned here next year 2010/11 but Bender isn't bad. I just think Bender can benefit from
a training camp and help NY even more if he's here next season.

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1/31/2010  4:37 PM
DJMUSIC wrote:
TMS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:the knicks had some opportunities to have a quality point guard on the roster but they all had questionable character and I think D'Antoni got Walsh to pass on them. Williams, Tisdale and Jennings all would have been nice additions but they don't fit the mold of the compliant vet who never needs an authority figure to steer them in the right direction.

Eric Maynor & Darren Collison would have fit that mold nicely, too bad they were scooped up by other teams a few picks before ours... Toney Douglas has all the character & personality traits MDA is looking for & he can score, hopefully his PG skills will improve w/more opportunity... i'm not ready to give up on him yet.

I agree w/You TMS
on Douglas. I Liked him when I seen him few times in college.

His Knick play has improved in 1st season over his summer stint.
MDA needs to find a point in season and play him. I know MDA and Knicks trying desparately to win games and get in 2010 playoffs
but I think NY is running out of time. Plus we (Knicks) aren't good enough to play these bums all the time and win consistently
to improve. Its reason now why we see my man J.Hill whom earn some time and is getting better.

The bums I am referring to are Duhon and Harrington, Bender and Jeffries.
Actually Jeffries has improved his consistency (D) and plays a teeny bit smarter than rest of Knicks whom may be more talented than Jared.

I don't think we'll see any of the Knicks I mentioned here next year 2010/11 but Bender isn't bad. I just think Bender can benefit from
a training camp and help NY even more if he's here next season.

i don't think Duhon, Harrington & Fishlips are bums... they all fill a role that can help teams... it's the fact that we have extremely poor team balance right now that makes them look like bums... use them in the way they SHOULD be used & they can all help you win games... i think Al is being used as he should be as our 6th man but Duhon should really be our backup & not our starter... Jeffries should also be a #7 or #8 man off the bench seeing about 15-20 minutes a night, not 48 minutes for crying out loud! MDA must seriously be trying to pump up his trade value cuz i see no other logical explanation for it.

Bender's a scrub tho IMO, i don't see him making any appreciable impact on either end of the floor... nice guy but he's a 10th man bench warmer at best IMO.

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1/31/2010  8:32 PM
DJMUSIC wrote:
sebstar wrote:You only seem to pop up when we lose...

That is quite often now Buddy
eh ?

When we lose ?
what do you mean like we're winning ? I do not get your point.

You think we've had some winning streaks recently and that popping up
statement aint true. What are we winning ? I was around here when Knicks
had decent December month where were you ?

I mean of course I feel you, we suck and there is a fair amount of frustration at this board even though we knew going in this was a transition year.

I still think we should have signed A.I ...I dont know what the harm would have been.

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1/31/2010  11:17 PM
sebstar wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
sebstar wrote:You only seem to pop up when we lose...

That is quite often now Buddy
eh ?

When we lose ?
what do you mean like we're winning ? I do not get your point.

You think we've had some winning streaks recently and that popping up
statement aint true. What are we winning ? I was around here when Knicks
had decent December month where were you ?

I mean of course I feel you, we suck and there is a fair amount of frustration at this board even though we knew going in this was a transition year.

I still think we should have signed A.I ...I dont know what the harm would have been.

hear ya
I was also in the minority# to sign AI for cheap for 1 yr rental
I dont think it woulda hurt it would juice the garden and I
think take pressure off guys like Lee, Chandler and other knicks.

Knicks need something. We got none now and I dont mean to run
mouth at our team (*smiles) as often as I do. I think we'd feel
better if we had DRAFT picks in 2010 or we knew LBJ or similar
star was coming here. We have neither.

Fans deserve so much more for a long time...we'll see how NYK
finish the season. Time running out Wolves blew them out and
Knicks are 18-29 with 35 games left. Don't look good

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1/31/2010  11:30 PM
i'm with you bros... AI would have been a significant upgrade over Chris Duhon... why we passed up on that is beyond me... don't give me this crap about developing the youth, our rooks have seen hardly any action since Donnie made that decision.

the first 5 games AI came in to play in Philly they struggled & went 1W - 4L... then he went inactive for a stretch of 4 games & returned & the team played a lot better going 8W - 9L... still not great but how can anyone suggest he wouldn't be better than Chris Duhon?

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2/1/2010  8:58 AM
Teams keep adjusting to our game, and our team defense has totally disappeared. Nate was a no-show on offense and without Harrington, this team just cannot score enough points consistently to win. The P & R with Duhon and Lee is played out and Duhon does not drive to the hole enough to make teams pay. Basically, the flaws in this team are showing and only the infusion of some new players is going to right this ship.
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2/1/2010  9:05 AM
If we had a decent PG and Mike D'Antoni was more of a strict disciplinarian who held his players accountable, we would be right there with Chicago and Charlotte. I don't think most realize just how much Chris Duhon hurts the team. And D'Antoni is too buddy-buddy and friendly with his players. Imagine the scene if a Pat Riley or Jeff Van Gundy Knick team lost by 50 at home. They would be throwing chairs and leg-locking players in the lockerroom. D'Antoni brushed it off like losing by 50 at home was no big deal. I think D'Antoni needs to realize that he cannot be a players-coach in New York. It doesn't work. Crack the whip!!
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2/1/2010  10:47 AM
TMS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:the knicks had some opportunities to have a quality point guard on the roster but they all had questionable character and I think D'Antoni got Walsh to pass on them. Williams, Tisdale and Jennings all would have been nice additions but they don't fit the mold of the compliant vet who never needs an authority figure to steer them in the right direction.

Eric Maynor & Darren Collison would have fit that mold nicely, too bad they were scooped up by other teams a few picks before ours... Toney Douglas has all the character & personality traits MDA is looking for & he can score, hopefully his PG skills will improve w/more opportunity... i'm not ready to give up on him yet.

DJMUSIC I think you are dead on with the comparison of coaches. A lack of a strong assistant for the offense in Vangundy also a lack of a strong defensive coach with Dantoni.

Without assistance to give them balance they are very limited when it comes to creactivity.

This will suprise some but I would rather have Vangundy than Dantoni. VANGUNDY COACHED BETTER IN THE EAST AND DANTONI COACHED BETTER IN THE WEST...two different styles in each conference.

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2/1/2010  10:50 AM
sebstar wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
sebstar wrote:You only seem to pop up when we lose...

That is quite often now Buddy
eh ?

When we lose ?
what do you mean like we're winning ? I do not get your point.

You think we've had some winning streaks recently and that popping up
statement aint true. What are we winning ? I was around here when Knicks
had decent December month where were you ?

I mean of course I feel you, we suck and there is a fair amount of frustration at this board even though we knew going in this was a transition year.

I still think we should have signed A.I ...I dont know what the harm would have been.

Seb, AI didn't fit the docile personality that danphoney likes from his back court players.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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2/1/2010  2:53 PM

Oh, lawd...

The sooner the 2010 offseason gets here, the better.

Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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2/1/2010  3:13 PM
playa2 wrote:
sebstar wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
sebstar wrote:You only seem to pop up when we lose...

That is quite often now Buddy
eh ?

When we lose ?
what do you mean like we're winning ? I do not get your point.

You think we've had some winning streaks recently and that popping up
statement aint true. What are we winning ? I was around here when Knicks
had decent December month where were you ?

I mean of course I feel you, we suck and there is a fair amount of frustration at this board even though we knew going in this was a transition year.

I still think we should have signed A.I ...I dont know what the harm would have been.

Seb, AI didn't fit the docile personality that danphoney likes from his back court players.

sixers before AI = 5-15
sixers w AI = 11-16

must be a coincidence right? yeah, we couldnt have used him at all.
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2/1/2010  3:25 PM
We are a .500 team since starting 3-14.

.500 is playoffs in the east. why all the agita right now -- our season was pissed away in november.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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