klintorious wrote:We may be better off with Chris Bosh, crazy as that sounds. Gallo and Chandler will suffice at the 3 spot

Duhon
Chandler
Gallo
Lee
Bosh

Good for at least 42 wins I'd say

Lay the pipe down and walk away.......

Are you kidding me?.....

Don't know which I think is dumber Bosh over Lebron ( Which is SOOOO dumb) or another year of Dudu @ the Point

I'll be praying for the Nets to Brooklyn happens cause if that is what OUR KNICKS look next year I wont be watching!!

Bosh over Lebron?..... For real?

nixluva wrote:There's no need to have any kind of fear or pessimism about this coming off season. We'll be in good shape as a franchise no matter is Lee stays or Lebron comes or not. The biggest issue was to get on the right side of the cap and then all kinds of new options open up for the franchise. Then you also have another trade deadline and then 2011 FA market. I'm not gonna get upset about any of this stuff at this point, cuz better days are ahead at least in terms of fiscal responsibility and possibly in terms of talent too.

Are you kidding me---everything for the next 4-6 years is on the line real quick when FA starts.

And I will say this--if we don't score--we gave away two season where we clearly couldve been mighty competitive with JC and Zach--that much is very obvious.

Also if D Lee leaves---good luck replacing him. Maybe Jordan Hill

Its not D Lees fault that the Knicks arent getting him a 7 footer to play next to him--that they believe JJ ios some kind of answer and that we didnt try to upgrade our horrible PG situation.

As a team we have a good core[although 2/3 of it is developing] that we should make as a priority to keep together for the next 6 years. We need another guy who can really play and dfend upfront--we need a PG we will need a new bench--so it's keeping the core together A rebuilding the rest of the team and making sure we have some 7 footers who can play to help us out.

BRIGGS wrote:and LBJ does not come here--hello to 23 wins.

I know we're only five wins away from that total, but we're not a lock for it- and D Lee is having his best year.

And Briggs, what if keep Lee and don't get Lebron.

So, we're probably still looking at win totals in the 30's. But at that point, we're probably locked in to Lee at $72mm for 6 years, and as good as he is, he will be untradeable with the new CBA.

So if the alternatives are Keep Lee, and guarantee a future of severe mediocrity, or let Lee walk and begin our franchise player search through the draft in 2011-2015, then bring on the 23 wins.

And if it has to get ugly one year like the Nets, then so be it. Its no worse, and in fact better, than watching the last 8 years when we sucked and we had no hope.

Cosmic wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:and LBJ does not come here--hello to 23 wins.

As opposed to the whopping 32 wins that Lee leads us to?

Give me a break.

Lee signs for 10M in that situation or he can go get dunked on 12 times a game elsewhere.

Besides there are plenty of FAs to sign. PLENTY. We won't get trapped into overpaying for Lee just to say we didn't screw up. BTW, paying for Lee IS screwing up.

Melo in 2011. I bet Melo would be a better fit for D'Antoni's offense anyway.

LeBron will eventually cry about not playing defense. Melo is a gunner. A good one which is rare. He would fit in perfectly.

There is no end of the Knicks if LeBron doesn't sign. I don't know why people say this. No LeBron our lives are over. Kill ourselves. Burn down MSG.

Give me a freakin' break.

If we lose David Lee and don't get LeBron and don't add anyone else, we'll be the worst team in the league by far, I believe.

With that said, I can understand if DLee would be patient with us to see if we can land LeBron, because I'm sure his decision will be made quickly. We can keep him on hold while we hunt for Wade and James, and if we land one of them, we release his rights.

It's not like, as constructed, we'll be a great team even if we get LeBron and lose Dlee or even have both. Our defense would still be awful and we'd neec a pg still.

Maybe if he makes enough money on them, he can afford to give us a small hometown discount off the profits!!!!

Allanfan20 wrote:
If we lose David Lee and don't get LeBron and don't add anyone else, we'll be the worst team in the league by far, I believe.

With that said, I can understand if DLee would be patient with us to see if we can land LeBron, because I'm sure his decision will be made quickly. We can keep him on hold while we hunt for Wade and James, and if we land one of them, we release his rights.

It's not like, as constructed, we'll be a great team even if we get LeBron and lose Dlee or even have both. Our defense would still be awful and we'd neec a pg still.

And if we overpay for David Lee because we swung and missed and get no one else we still suck.

David Lee isn't a franchise player. The guy isn't bringing us to the playoffs.

He's pretty damn good but he is also pretty damn pathetic on one side of the ball. Losing him isn't the end all to life as a Knick fan.

If you really think about it he's not alone here in NY. Harrington, Duhon, Hughes, Nate, Gallo, Chandler - he has help he is not alone - and he still can't lead us to 30 wins. That really says something. It says he's not all that good of a player.

Tim Duncan or Dwight Howard's sidekick? Yeah, David Lee is pretty good. David Lee by himself? No. So, no, if we strike out of the Wade-Bron-Bosh-Amare sweepstakes guess what? That doesn't mean we need to pay Lee 15M per year.

Why?

Because watching David Lee give up 40 points per game and win 25 games per year shouldn't EVER be a priority.

King1 wrote:Cosmic there has never been anyone score 40 on Lee. He is by far trhe best player on this team. He has zero help rebounding, and he plays with the worst four man and point in the league. Funny how Kobe, Shaq, said publicly he should be on the all star team and Duncan and Bosh also sings his praises. After Lee destroyed duncan tim said see you dallas. Funny how HOF players respect his game but the fans dont.

His offense is ridiculous. Defense is suspect. In addition to what I see on the court, his lack of blocks and the fact that he hasn't fouled of a single game makes me believe he isn't giving enough effort on the defensive end. He needs to spend the summer balling with Charles Oakley and learn how to play PF. He needs to play harder defense.