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1/25/2010  10:11 PM
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1/25/2010  10:16 PM
Walsh has a grip on this situation

50 m ago By Alan Hahn

I made the mistake of introducing myself to Mel Daniels, the former Pacers executive who worked for years as Donnie Walsh's partner in Indiana. Daniels is in town for a few days to provide another perspective for Walsh (who insisted Daniels is not on the verge of being hired into a front office position with the Knicks) and was at Monday's practice wearing a Yankees cap and a wide, welcoming smile.

Then came the handshake. I don't remember much after that.

Shortly thereafer, Al Harrington escorted Marcus Landry over to Daniels to introduce the rookie (keep in mind Harrington played for the Pacers). When Daniels finally released his vice-grip shake, Landry grabbed his palm with his other hand and winced.

Harrington laughed and carefully offered Daniels a high five. When Harrington explained to some members of the media who the tall man in the Yankees cap was, I interjected, "Just don't shake his hand."

Al laughed. "Oh he got you, too?"

I nodded and Al said, "He once broke my former agent's hand."

That's what you want to come away with when you consider a franchise that is rebuilding: that the people in charge have a firm grip on things. Walsh gave that indication after practice when, after chastizing the effort of his team in Sunday's 50-point embarrassment at the Garden -- "It was a terrible game," he said, "and obviously we've got to pick it up if we hope to make the playoffs." -- he denied there was a desperate need to make changes to his roster before the Feb. 18 trade deadline.

What he basically said was, he wasn't going to make change for change's sake. No re-arranging of deck chairs. All of those cliches that go along with the cliche reaction to a team with low expectations performing up to their expectations.

"What I found is when you panic, you make large mistakes," Walsh said. "So it's not that I like where we are, it's that until something better presents itself, you just gotta keep doing the things you're doing."

The message remains steadfastly consistent: the rebuild will begin in the summer of 2010, as planned since April 2008, when Walsh was hired to do the job. So there will not be any deals made that will negatively impact the salary cap situation in 2010-11 before the end of this season.

Of course that is not to say that Walsh isn't working the phones to make something work on the short-term to help his team earn a playoff berth that is starting to slip out of reach again after a 2-6 run in the last eight games.

As we said in the previous blog, there is an obvious need at the point guard position and we expect that will be where Walsh and his staff focuses the bulk of their attention. But with limited resources and limitations on what he is willing to take back in contracts, Walsh's selection will be, well, limited.

So for every name you see attached to a rumor, Fixers, try not to immediately try to find a way the Knicks can make a deal happen. Keep in mind the uproar after the team opted not to sign Allen Iverson. Then check to see where the Knicks and 76ers are in the standings two months after the Knicks passed on him.

And Walsh knows many of you are itching for a trade, just to have something new. Like you see Sundiata Gaines and wonder how the Knicks didn't get him. You wonder why the Knicks didn't try to get Eric Maynor. But you also forget the Knicks already have a rookie scoring guard in Toney Douglas.

And you have to understand that adding Maynor or Gaines doesn't make the Knicks a playoff team.

"You're assuming that any move will help us make the playoffs, I don't assume that," Walsh said. "I assume we've got to make the right move in order to have something like that happen. And if that's there, we'll do it."

Of course a deal has to work both ways. I've talked to a handful of NBA general managers and personnel executives over the last week and have gotten a consistent message: the Knicks just don't have players anyone is that interested in (outside of David Lee and Danilo Gallinari, of course). You're not going to get Tracy McGrady for Jared Jeffries and Eddy Curry. You're not going to land Amar'e Stoudemire for Jordan Hill and Larry Hughes.

Any of the potential 2010 free agents like Stoudemire (i.e.: Chris Bosh, Ray Allen) that will come up as possible trade pieces before Feb. 18 aren't going to be had for cheap. The Knicks just don't have the kind of pieces -- nor do they have a first-round pick, mind you -- to be serious players for high-end talent right now.

It seems pretty clear that Walsh has a grip on reality. I just have to remember never to let Daniels ever again get a grip of my hand.

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1/25/2010  10:17 PM
Knicks know they have to get Duhon straightened out
January 25, 2010 by ALAN HAHN / alan.hahn@newsday.com

GREENBURGH, N.Y. - As Wilson Chandler attempted free throws during the second quarter of the Knicks' 50-point loss to the Mavericks at the Garden on Sunday, Chris Duhon heard a familiar voice call to him.

It was John Starks - a player who has some experience in persevering through shooting slumps - and he offered a few brief words of encouragement to Duhon from a courtside seat along celebrity row.

The moment didn't inspire any sudden turnaround for Duhon, who finished the game 2-for-7 from the field and missed all four of his three-point attempts. But it was symbolic that everyone within the franchise - including Starks, who serves a non-basketball role as alumni relations and fan development adviser - is aware of exactly what is troubling the Knicks, who have lost six of their last eight games.

"It's critical. Without a doubt, it's critical," coach Mike D'Antoni said of the point guard position. "Somebody's got to play really well there."

D'Antoni argues that the only real issue with Duhon is his shooting (30.8 percent from the field in January) and said his assists-to-turnovers ratio still ranks among the best in the NBA. Though overall this is true - Duhon ranks sixth in the league with a 3.32 assists-to-turnover ratio - his ratio this month is down to 2.56, which ranks 31st among NBA guards.

D'Antoni has swapped the other guards on the team - Nate Robinson, Larry Hughes and rookie Toney Douglas - in and out of the rotation, but he is steadfast in his loyalty to Duhon "because when he plays well, he's our best point guard."

Perhaps that's more of an indication of how important the point guard position is for the Knicks and why Donnie Walsh will make that a priority before the Feb. 18 trade deadline.

Walsh said Monday that he won't make a trade for the sake of making one, but there is little doubt that he will ask his scouts, who are in this week for pre-deadline organizational meetings, about possible available players.

After Duhon's alarming second-half crash last season, the Knicks spent last summer trying to upgrade at point guard, and it remains an obvious area of need halfway into the season. Coincidentally, Tuesday night at the Garden, the Knicks host the Timberwolves, who have a surplus of young guards in Jonny Flynn, Spanish prospect Ricky Rubio and Ramon Sessions, whom the Knicks strongly considered signing last summer.

D'Antoni was in no mood to consider the alternatives. "I don't want to go there because, I'm telling you, Chris is going to come back and he's going to do it," he said. "He's just got to come out of this funk and we've got to do it. We've got to fight."

Notes & quotes: Chandler did not practice, resting a strained right groin that bothered him in Sunday's game. He is questionable for tonight's game. Nate Robinson (hamstring) also did not practice and will test it out before the game.

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1/25/2010  10:30 PM
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1/26/2010  9:00 AM
orangeblobman wrote:Knicks know they have to get Duhon straightened out
January 25, 2010 by ALAN HAHN / alan.hahn@newsday.com

GREENBURGH, N.Y. - As Wilson Chandler attempted free throws during the second quarter of the Knicks' 50-point loss to the Mavericks at the Garden on Sunday, Chris Duhon heard a familiar voice call to him.

It was John Starks - a player who has some experience in persevering through shooting slumps - and he offered a few brief words of encouragement to Duhon from a courtside seat along celebrity row.

The moment didn't inspire any sudden turnaround for Duhon, who finished the game 2-for-7 from the field and missed all four of his three-point attempts. But it was symbolic that everyone within the franchise - including Starks, who serves a non-basketball role as alumni relations and fan development adviser - is aware of exactly what is troubling the Knicks, who have lost six of their last eight games.

"It's critical. Without a doubt, it's critical," coach Mike D'Antoni said of the point guard position. "Somebody's got to play really well there."

D'Antoni argues that the only real issue with Duhon is his shooting (30.8 percent from the field in January) and said his assists-to-turnovers ratio still ranks among the best in the NBA. Though overall this is true - Duhon ranks sixth in the league with a 3.32 assists-to-turnover ratio - his ratio this month is down to 2.56, which ranks 31st among NBA guards.

D'Antoni has swapped the other guards on the team - Nate Robinson, Larry Hughes and rookie Toney Douglas - in and out of the rotation, but he is steadfast in his loyalty to Duhon "because when he plays well, he's our best point guard."

Perhaps that's more of an indication of how important the point guard position is for the Knicks and why Donnie Walsh will make that a priority before the Feb. 18 trade deadline.

Walsh said Monday that he won't make a trade for the sake of making one, but there is little doubt that he will ask his scouts, who are in this week for pre-deadline organizational meetings, about possible available players.

After Duhon's alarming second-half crash last season, the Knicks spent last summer trying to upgrade at point guard, and it remains an obvious area of need halfway into the season. Coincidentally, Tuesday night at the Garden, the Knicks host the Timberwolves, who have a surplus of young guards in Jonny Flynn, Spanish prospect Ricky Rubio and Ramon Sessions, whom the Knicks strongly considered signing last summer.

D'Antoni was in no mood to consider the alternatives. "I don't want to go there because, I'm telling you, Chris is going to come back and he's going to do it," he said. "He's just got to come out of this funk and we've got to do it. We've got to fight."
Notes & quotes: Chandler did not practice, resting a strained right groin that bothered him in Sunday's game. He is questionable for tonight's game. Nate Robinson (hamstring) also did not practice and will test it out before the game.

sounds like still has the mancrush for duhon...not good for knicks fans if this guy (duhon) comes back next year.

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1/26/2010  10:31 AM
No chance in hell Walsh will go down this road again. Duhon is done here after this season, except possibly as a cheap backup.
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1/26/2010  10:51 AM
Translation--we messed up trying to get a PG yet we won't admit it:)
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1/26/2010  10:53 AM
And people think Duhon won't be available for the veterans minimum ?
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/26/2010  12:41 PM
by the way duhon has played, he will be VERY AVAILABLE at the vet min
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1/26/2010  12:49 PM
duhon be lucky to be in the league next season. you don't go months shooting 20% and stay in the nba.
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1/27/2010  4:05 AM
kam77 wrote:And people think Duhon won't be available for the veterans minimum ?

13 assists, 0 turnovers tonight... currently 6th in the NBA in ast/to ratio & 11th in the NBA in ast/game average.

& people think Duhon will be available for the veterans minimum?

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1/27/2010  8:13 AM
TMS wrote:
kam77 wrote:And people think Duhon won't be available for the veterans minimum ?

13 assists, 0 turnovers tonight... currently 6th in the NBA in ast/to ratio & 11th in the NBA in ast/game average.

& people think Duhon will be available for the veterans minimum?

i could have had 20 assists against this wack wolves team, they were so wack

but he was still ice cold with his shot, he has no confidence in his shot, and good teams are gonna lock down on his dishing so he's gonna have to give business but he can't. duhon cant go to the hole, he cant shoot, he's so wack and he's not like jason kidd with the crisp dish so, whatever

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1/27/2010  10:59 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/27/2010  10:59 AM
I think Duhon's shooting hurts us a lot but honestly, I truly believe that the team operates a lot more efficiently when he is in the game. Now, you can chalk some of that to us not having a capable backup PG but for the most part, Chris does a good job of running our offense.

So I can't really blame D'Antoni for hoping that the shooting woes simply go away. Chris did shoot the ball relatively well in December and I think the overall point is that if his shooting is decent, then he plays the PG position at a pretty high level.

People keep saying we should bench him, but who are we going to throw out there? Hughes has shown that he can't shoot consistently either. Nate, while being a good weapon off the bench, has shown he still cannot run an offense. That just leaves the rookie Douglas, who has shown some good offensive ability but again, hasn't proven he can run a team this early in his career.

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1/27/2010  11:37 AM
If Duhon is no threat to shoot for whatever reason and we are starting Jefferies does anyone realize that puts us 3 in 5 on the offensive end?

Duhon is made for a half court game. It really is that simple. A guy like Lowery would be a marginal upgrade at minimal cost and Felton would be a huge upgrade skill wise but he has a hard time making the 3.

For my money, I trade for Duhon for Lowery and Brian Cook. That way we have a defender at the 1 and JJ can be deployed at will.

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1/27/2010  1:04 PM
when you're shooting as ****ty as duhon is right now, you really close a lot of opportunities for yourself. you think other teams don't know they can relax on him and his shot?

i saw half the game yesterday, total, and i can't even count how many times duhon had wide open looks but you just KNEW he wasn't gonna pop it, because he can't. they just let him float out there man.

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1/27/2010  1:47 PM
TMS wrote:
kam77 wrote:And people think Duhon won't be available for the veterans minimum ?

13 assists, 0 turnovers tonight... currently 6th in the NBA in ast/to ratio & 11th in the NBA in ast/game average.

& people think Duhon will be available for the veterans minimum?

His minutes per game are pretty good too... unfortunately, those stats alone don't make a player good. His Player Efficiency Rating is not in the top 20 for PGs (Nate Robinson, however, is in the top 20). Duhon is a questionable backup PG at best. How much do you pay a borderline backup PG? If the Knicks don't resign him (and I hope they don't) he is out of the league in 2-3 years.

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1/27/2010  3:07 PM
Duhon is a steady, reliable back-up point guard, who you get 20 minutes from, doesn't turn the ball over and keeps the flow going until your 1st string guard gets back into the game. Consequently, Nate should be elevated to starting PG. He has enough firepower that he has to be respected and is enough of a defensive pest that he won't be overrun. This Duhon experiment should be winding down.
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1/27/2010  4:30 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
TMS wrote:
kam77 wrote:And people think Duhon won't be available for the veterans minimum ?

13 assists, 0 turnovers tonight... currently 6th in the NBA in ast/to ratio & 11th in the NBA in ast/game average.

& people think Duhon will be available for the veterans minimum?

His minutes per game are pretty good too... unfortunately, those stats alone don't make a player good. His Player Efficiency Rating is not in the top 20 for PGs (Nate Robinson, however, is in the top 20). Duhon is a questionable backup PG at best. How much do you pay a borderline backup PG? If the Knicks don't resign him (and I hope they don't) he is out of the league in 2-3 years.

it all depends on what your team's needs are... if you're a team with go to scorers & just need someone to orchestrate the offense, he can be a valuable commodity... you telling me he's not better than scrubs like Anthony Carter & old washed up veterans like Lindsey Hunter? IMO he'll get around what Sebastian Telfair's making now, about half the MLE.

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orangeblobman wrote:duhon be lucky to be in the league next season. you don't go months shooting 20% and stay in the nba.

DITTO

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1/27/2010  9:44 PM
DUDU SUCKS.

PERIOD!

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