It was a tenuous balance, what this team had. It was working. And then like with all fragile and young things, like a baby, it can be harmed easily. Larry Hughes did the Knicks in. For this, I will never forgive him.

If you're looking for where our troubles started in 2010, look at Larry Hughes.

enough with your agenda posting... it's obvious u don't like Larry Hughes & never have, but don't make up stupid sheit to state your case.

It's all Nate's fault! He's a bad boy, always smiling on the side line. He's a bad boy.

Jeffries said this:

"[But] I don't think we're reverting back. I just think we have to figure out how hard we have to play. Teams are upping their level before the All-Star break and we have to match that."

To me, this says that, all other defects aside, if Larry Hughes didn't stick a fork in the turkey earlier this month that the Knicks would be better prepared mentally and emotionally to ball teams up. They were starting to overachieve and when you overachieve you need a special mental makeup, it's not a quantifiable property. Larry Hughes tore this to shreds, he opened the flood gates for sadness, for misery.

I think we're losing for mainly three reasons.

1) We don't have a PG - Chris Duhon is really a 3rd stringer. He's just awful. Just disgusting to watch. And the assists to turnover ratio is so misleading. Of course Duhon doesn't get turnovers. How can he when he doesn't create shots for his teammates?

2) We don't have a SuperStar - sorry David Lee fans.

3) We don't play defense. No shotblocking and our perimeter defense has been piss poor lately. When we were winning, we rarely allowed lay-ups. We sent teams to the line. We've been very soft, especially Lee, in the paint.

Cosmic wrote:We're blaming Larry Hughes for the Knicks recent poor play?

How about blaming that we're not a good team overall and that better teams eat us up?

How about we look at the roster and understand what we really have instead of propping every player up to be all-star caliber or future all-star caliber when they're not?

How about we notice that Gallo has back problems, Duhon has a drinking problem, Nate and Hughes have attitude problems, Al has been banged up as been Hughes and Nate and even Duhon has his back spasms he gets.

How about we look at the history of recent bad Knicks teams that find themselves playing one stretch of the weakest part of the schedule and capitalizing on it by playing about .500 ball during that stretch only to put up .350 play or worse during the stronger part of the schedule?

How about we stop deluding ourselves into thinking this roster was put together to compete and actually notice that it was put together to finish off Isiah's financial mistakes?

INSTEAD we blame the refs or we blame a specific player. First Nate and now Hughes? Then it was Al then it was Duhon not passing to Gallo.

I mean, enough with the lame excuses, which make it appear as if a great team was getting robbed or sabotaged!

THE SCHEDULE:
We started 1-9
We then went 14-11 over the weakest part of our schedule.
We have since skid 2-6 against a slightly tougher bump in the schedule.
We now have about a 6 game stretch upcoming against teams we can beat.
Then it gets rough. The rest of the schedule there on out is not fabvorable for a bad team.

8-18 against .500+ teams.
9-8 against .500- teams.

Guess what? We're not a good team.

We weren't meant to be this year but some fans just can't help themselves in grossly overrating either a player, a rookie, or the meaning behind a small stretch of a good record against a favorable schedule.

I was pretty happy with him before he got hurt. His shooting wasn't spectacular, but he was playing about 30 MPG, and giving us some good D and ball handling.

orangeblobman wrote:Tougher teams, all the more reason that our fragile mental constitution had to be protected at all costs and cultivated towards further solidification. Larry Hughes showed a blatant disrespect for team chemistry, and so for his teammates, his brothers in battle, by voicing such violent displeasure with the Coach. It's like someone coming in and spitting on all the hard work and Thanksgiving Day bonding that the team struggled so much to foster.

If Larry doesn't spit on his teammates, these Knicks are much better prepared to match up with these tougher teams. But Larry spit on them, violently, and so they grew weak in mind.

He said he couldnt understand why he was riding the bench...the way way you over-dramatize things one would think he was out kicking the player's children in the chin.

We're mediocre right now. Mediocre teams cant sustain success for very long. We're a low-30 win team and everybody knows that....no surprise.