orangeblobman wrote:what the hell? where is the focus for this thread?

Lakers (New York) is better team but NBA Chemps were challenged and Duhon sucks no surprise.

DJMUSIC wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:what the hell? where is the focus for this thread?

Hey brother I'm truly sorry apologies
I didn't know you were lying down w/Chris Duhon carry on....

haha yea, duhon sucks. if only had good pg, knicks win more game this year, you right you right.

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:the Knicks could have had Jason Williams ( they had his rights), Tinsley, or Jennings. D'Antoni did not want any of them and from the outside it appears that it is because he does not want to deal with anyone that might have character issues that would require him to be an authority figure.

not really.

Jason Williams wanted to play for Orlando. That's where his family is (remember he retired for a year to be with his sick daughter?) and it's a playoff team where he would come off the bench in the perfect roll for him. Really, why would Jason Williams want to play for NY if given that choice. He did meet with the team. Jason to Donnie Walsh: "Dog, I don't wanna be here. Right now I'm outta shape and I'm gonna walk through my tryout with you. Please release me." Donnie: "No worries man."

Tinsley is a character issue guy. Did you also forget about his $5.5M he makes this year and NEXT?

Jennings was passed over by the scouts, GM and coach in favor of a Big who can run, jump, block shots and hit an outside shot.

We needed to use the 8th pick on that? PG's are rarer than bigs. How many good PG's actually sniff free agency?

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:the Knicks could have had Jason Williams ( they had his rights), Tinsley, or Jennings. D'Antoni did not want any of them and from the outside it appears that it is because he does not want to deal with anyone that might have character issues that would require him to be an authority figure.

not really.

Jason Williams wanted to play for Orlando. That's where his family is (remember he retired for a year to be with his sick daughter?) and it's a playoff team where he would come off the bench in the perfect roll for him. Really, why would Jason Williams want to play for NY if given that choice. He did meet with the team. Jason to Donnie Walsh: "Dog, I don't wanna be here. Right now I'm outta shape and I'm gonna walk through my tryout with you. Please release me." Donnie: "No worries man."

Tinsley is a character issue guy. Did you also forget about his $5.5M he makes this year and NEXT?

Jennings was passed over by the scouts, GM and coach in favor of a Big who can run, jump, block shots and hit an outside shot.

We needed to use the 8th pick on that? PG's are rarer than bigs. How many good PG's actually sniff free agency?

cant you say the same about Bigs that I just described? And if there is an assumption that LeBron in coming (50/50?) do you really need a ball dominant PG who can't shoot?

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:the Knicks could have had Jason Williams ( they had his rights), Tinsley, or Jennings. D'Antoni did not want any of them and from the outside it appears that it is because he does not want to deal with anyone that might have character issues that would require him to be an authority figure.

not really.

Jason Williams wanted to play for Orlando. That's where his family is (remember he retired for a year to be with his sick daughter?) and it's a playoff team where he would come off the bench in the perfect roll for him. Really, why would Jason Williams want to play for NY if given that choice. He did meet with the team. Jason to Donnie Walsh: "Dog, I don't wanna be here. Right now I'm outta shape and I'm gonna walk through my tryout with you. Please release me." Donnie: "No worries man."

Tinsley is a character issue guy. Did you also forget about his $5.5M he makes this year and NEXT?

Jennings was passed over by the scouts, GM and coach in favor of a Big who can run, jump, block shots and hit an outside shot.

We needed to use the 8th pick on that? PG's are rarer than bigs. How many good PG's actually sniff free agency?

cant you say the same about Bigs that I just described? And if there is an assumption that LeBron in coming (50/50?) do you really need a ball dominant PG who can't shoot?

Jennings isn't ball dominant. You dont have many PG's in the league with his court vision or passing ability. His jumper off the dribble needs work though.

When it comes to the draft you draft the best prospect. You dont pass on guys because of guys you might sign in the future. If Jennings produces he will have value to be traded. We all knew the 2010 draft was going to be short on PG's. We could end up with just Amare or Bosh for all we know.

Great recent write-up by draft express on Jennings: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Brandon-Jennings-1114/

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Jennings isn't ball dominant. You dont have many PG's in the league with his court vision or passing ability. His jumper off the dribble needs work though.

When it comes to the draft you draft the best prospect. You dont pass on guys because of guys you might sign in the future. If Jennings produces he will have value to be traded. We all knew the 2010 draft was going to be short on PG's. We could end up with just Amare or Bosh for all we know.

Great recent write-up by draft express on Jennings: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Brandon-Jennings-1114/

I am on board with drafting the best possible draft prospect; the Knicks' management either f'ed up or thought differently about Jennings. But perhaps they also know something that we don't know wink-wink .

Are you on board with the fact that the Knicks needed both a C and a PG long term? And then decided C was the better prospect for whatever reason?

I like my centers to be tall and long(Javale McGee) or built like a tank if undersized(Al Horford). Jordan hill is neither. He is a PF.

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Jennings isn't ball dominant. You dont have many PG's in the league with his court vision or passing ability. His jumper off the dribble needs work though.

When it comes to the draft you draft the best prospect. You dont pass on guys because of guys you might sign in the future. If Jennings produces he will have value to be traded. We all knew the 2010 draft was going to be short on PG's. We could end up with just Amare or Bosh for all we know.

Great recent write-up by draft express on Jennings: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Brandon-Jennings-1114/

I am on board with drafting the best possible draft prospect; the Knicks' management either f'ed up or thought differently about Jennings. But perhaps they also know something that we don't know wink-wink .

Are you on board with the fact that the Knicks needed both a C and a PG long term? And then decided C was the better prospect for whatever reason?

I like my centers to be tall and long(Javale McGee) or built like a tank if undersized(Al Horford). Jordan hill is neither. He is a PF.

If you want to start labeling players ad hoc there is really no point to anything you want to say.

And generally it's not what you think, it's what the GM and coach think and where they will play him. And that is at C.

Hill does look capable of being a full time NBA center. Nothing like having a 7 footer who can run and shoot in the NBA. Still would not mind having another to pair/rest him with as the situation demands.

2010 lineup?

C- Hill\?
PF- Lee\Gallo
SF- Gallo\Ill Will
SG- ?\Ill Will
PG- Nate and TD split as each matures

A mature PG who could work the young'uns would be a good find. Someone good enough to make them earn it.

Lee (just my opinion) develops 3 point range he could play the 3 as a point forward. Maybe he doesn't do so poorly on defense from there.

Landry is an x-factor at SF/SG perhaps. ou have 2 second rounders. Maybe one competes.

Trade deadline approaching. Don't think anyone takes Curry. Jeffries has value. Does Duhon? He is an expiring of course. Likely both are on the block.

There has been nothing of late on the Mobley contract in the press I remember seeing. That contract affects your cap currently?