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Cosmic
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1/22/2010  8:28 PM
Didn't know that.

Eh...doesn't mean much though.

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1/22/2010  9:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/22/2010  9:09 PM
it means a lot because last year they started 6-3, i think. this season it's 1-9. this means that they're a much better team, horrible start excluded.


what we should do is compare this season to last after chopping off the first 10 games of both.

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markvmc
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1/22/2010  9:17 PM
Or, how about we compare just the games we won this year with just the games we lost? We're infinitely better.
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1/22/2010  9:20 PM
what do you mean, markvmc?
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markvmc
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1/22/2010  9:27 PM
If we're going to arbitrarily pick and choose which games we're going to count to see how good we are, let's just go all the way.

At this point in the season, you are what your record says.
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1/22/2010  9:29 PM
dude. last season the first 10 games had zach and z-bo. the team we have this year officially started after that trade. then this year, they had to slow the pace down. it took them some time to adjust. it's not arbitrary picking and choosing.
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sebstar
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1/22/2010  9:51 PM
chris duhon played out of his mind the first half of last year. Now the knicks are routinely playing 5 on 4 whenever he is out on the court
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sebstar
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1/22/2010  10:00 PM
orangeblobman wrote:but he collapsed last year, too. duhon, on average, is playing about the same i would be willing to say.

he was generally very good in the first half of the season, which is what I was trying to say. Its still the first half and his play impacted our wins and loses.

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1/22/2010  10:00 PM
sebstar wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:but he collapsed last year, too. duhon, on average, is playing about the same i would be willing to say.

he was generally very good in the first half of the season, which is what I was trying to say. Its still the first half and his play impacted our wins and loses.

yea i realized what you were trying to say after reading it again, my bad

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1/22/2010  10:47 PM
sebstar wrote:chris duhon played out of his mind the first half of last year. Now the knicks are routinely playing 5 on 4 whenever he is out on the court

you could argue its 5-3 on off when jj+duhon are out there.

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1/22/2010  10:53 PM
Cosmic wrote:Didn't know that.

Eh...doesn't mean much though.

The losses are less ugly this year but losses none the less.

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1/22/2010  10:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/22/2010  10:56 PM
sidsanders wrote:
sebstar wrote:chris duhon played out of his mind the first half of last year. Now the knicks are routinely playing 5 on 4 whenever he is out on the court

you could argue its 5-3 on off when jj+duhon are out there.

JJ does his thing on D, tho but yeah I hear ya. Especially on offense. I dont know what Dantoni is thinking when he has both on the floor at the same time.

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1/22/2010  10:58 PM
sebstar wrote:
sidsanders wrote:
sebstar wrote:chris duhon played out of his mind the first half of last year. Now the knicks are routinely playing 5 on 4 whenever he is out on the court

you could argue its 5-3 on off when jj+duhon are out there.

JJ does his thing on D, tho but yeah I hear ya. Especially on offense. I dont know what Dantoni is thinking when he has both on the floor at the same time.

drives me nuts... hill looks like he could really help if they give him more mins.

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1/22/2010  11:24 PM
point differential is twice as good. defense is better. playing better as of late...

this team kicks last year's team's asse

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
djsunyc
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1/22/2010  11:26 PM
just curious but do you think jamal + zach on the court made duhon a better player (in terms of spacing and help defense by the opposition) while the players on the court now don't?
kam77
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1/22/2010  11:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/22/2010  11:30 PM
Duhon is just going through the inevitable decline that happens after age 25 to NBA players.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
simrud
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1/22/2010  11:51 PM
kam77 wrote:Duhon is just going through the inevitable decline that happens after age 25 to NBA players.

What DuDu has that can decline?

A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
OldFan
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1/23/2010  12:35 AM
sebstar wrote:
sidsanders wrote:
sebstar wrote:chris duhon played out of his mind the first half of last year. Now the knicks are routinely playing 5 on 4 whenever he is out on the court

you could argue its 5-3 on off when jj+duhon are out there.

JJ does his thing on D, tho but yeah I hear ya. Especially on offense. I dont know what Dantoni is thinking when he has both on the floor at the same time.

I'm pretty sure he's thinking - Duhon isn't playing well but I have no other PGs and JJ can't play offense but he's one of the few defenders I have.

This team doesn't have that many bullets. Hopefully Hill will keep playing well and earn more minutes. Don't think there is a PG solution on the roster.
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1/23/2010  2:00 AM
kam77 wrote:point differential is twice as good. defense is better. playing better as of late...

this team kicks last year's team's asse

+1, could not have said better myself.
markvmc
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1/23/2010  2:03 AM
Yup, we'll lose the same # of games, but by half as much.
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