The only guy I worry about is Duhon and because he seemed tired at the end of last year. But he's averaging < 35 minutes a game.

But I don't see where MDA "short rotation" is adding up to a lot of minutes for any one guy so I don't get this fear.

Feel free to explain what I'm missing...

OldFan wrote:Unless our players are just out of shape they should not be wearing down. We're not playing at a fast pace and we have one player on the entire team that is in the top 30 in minutes played - David Lee at 29th is getting 36 minutes a game. Yet every game thread poster are lamenting the short rotation and how our players are being over used.

The only guy I worry about is Duhon and because he seemed tired at the end of last year. But he's averaging < 35 minutes a game.

But I don't see where MDA "short rotation" is adding up to a lot of minutes for any one guy so I don't get this fear.

Feel free to explain what I'm missing...

This is how I look at it. Starter vs. bench minutes. Al is the only other bench player other than Nate and Larry (which you have to factor in their miss games for DNP) with more than 16 minutes a night. They have like 5 guys averaging more than 30 minutes a game. 3 of those guys average ~ 35 minutes a game. There is a huge discrepancy with allotted of minutes vs. other teams particular playoff teams or those close to contention.

TMS wrote:the only issue i have is with some of the guys he's playing... playing Fishlips 35+ a night & scrubs like Bender for 17 puts us at a huge disadvantage every night scoring points... if the big 3 (Lee, Chandler & Gallo) are having an off night, then we gotta get good games out of Al & Nate, & both those guys are so hit or miss on a nightly basis.

Now bender is a scrub?

orangeblobman wrote:Because we're 3-1 in January. No need to get all crazy. Knicks was in the game until the very end.

That is my only knock on MDA....too short of a rotation. Then sometimes at the end of the game, if players are tired or not performing, he doesn't have/put anyone else in. He basically uses a 7 man rotation.(Rockets game typical - the 8th player, Landry, played 3 min). When we do have other players sitting who are very qualified to play. Hughes for instance - could have played some of the first half and then been warmed up and fresh to play some min in 4th Qtr.

Lee - has been playing great. For the season, he may be avg only 35 min/game, but for the past month he has been playing over 40min/game. Last nite - 44 1/2 min. He lost a step at the end of the game.

babyKnicks wrote:Now bender is a scrub?

was he ever anything else? u telling me he's made a difference since he's been here?

When this team gets even better talent you'll see even more benefits of the short rotation.

A 7-man rotation is too short, especially when your bench players don't even break 30 minutes. Our starters are noticably gassed in the 4th quarter. We no longer make as many key rebounds or hustle plays, and our D breaks down too easily. We also end up relying on more iso play on offense as everyone stops moving off-the-ball. These are all signs of exhaustion.

Houston on the other hand had a 9-10 man rotation and had great minute distribution. It was clear that Landry and Lowry had more legs than any of our starters.

markvmc wrote:

arkrud wrote:
I agree that JJ as good as defender he is should not play more that 20 min and should not shoot.
Rockets are very well coached and they execute. They forces JJ to try putting it in 9 times and he magically did it 2 times.
This was the difference between winning and losing this time.

Jeffries made 4 baskets, not 2.

You are right 4 of 10 and it was a miracle.
He should be 1 of 2. For player like him taking 10 shorts... yes we are shorthanded.

franco12 wrote:Bump

Why did David Lee play all 48 last night?

I didn't watch the second half (or really much of the first half) against toronto, but were the Knicks every really in it? Down big at the start of the third, yea, it looks like a nice run was made, but they made no real ground up in the fourth quarter.

OK, maybe they made a decent 2nd half run.

But when we were getting smoked in the first quarter, why not sit Lee?

Chandler and Jeffries got in some serious early foul trouble. Chandler had 4 by halftime and 5th in the 3rd. Jeffries also got 4 and 5 in the third if I recall.

We really had no choice, except you know, maybe our lotto pick rookie rotting on the bench who may have come in for a few minutes. But Mike doesn't like to do that he wants to play the players that "give us the best chance to win".

Yeahhhhh.... so Lee played the full game.