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playa2
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12/30/2003  10:17 PM
sign up if you you're a suspect. Did you say the knicks suck? Yea I'm talking too you. Did you also say this team needs to be blown up? SIGN ya name and fess up
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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Silverfuel
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12/30/2003  10:20 PM
Posted by playa2:

sign up if you you're a suspect. Did you say the knicks suck? Yea I'm talking too you. Did you also say this team needs to be blown up? SIGN ya name and fess up
Please wait till we get back to a respectable record before gloating. I dont want anyone jinxing this team's amazing run.
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
hDavis
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12/30/2003  10:25 PM
yeah they teams they blewout are all bad teams. we cant say they are good till they beat the kings and the timberwolves again.
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WOODMANnYk
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12/30/2003  10:26 PM
I agree!! At least let's wait til we hit .500 or better then we could start gloating..
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Rich
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12/30/2003  10:28 PM
There will be plenty of time for gloating if and when the Knicks beat the best of the West. 'Til then, chill.

btw, This team is still not good enough to get where most of us fans want to go.
playa2
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12/30/2003  10:41 PM
SEE it's your mindsets that have you holding back on what you see on the court. Ok keep on waiting, I'm not saying we won't lose again but it's gonna be hard for these teams on the upcoming schedule to beat us. This team as is sends opposing teams in to submission. When ya mindsets catch up to mine AND TRU's HOLLA
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
Silverfuel
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12/30/2003  10:44 PM
Posted by playa2:

SEE it's your mindsets that have you holding back on what you see on the court.
Explain what that means please.
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
Elite
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12/30/2003  10:49 PM
we have a LOT of ground to make up.. but its a great start

i was certainly sick of them... almost hung it up

but isiah stands for something worth rooting for, something we havent had since spree left

zeke brought back the ny toughness we need

still a long road ahead tho
playa2
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12/30/2003  10:49 PM
You have seen this same team lose so many close games that ya hearts have been broken, but if you really love this team you know that what they are doing now is "GENUINE". No smoke and mirrors, the depth, the shooting the rebs the point guard are all there for you to see. Forgive and forget and your mindset will change. '

WELCOME "THE NEW LOOK KNICKS
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
Silverfuel
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12/30/2003  11:03 PM
Posted by playa2:

You have seen this same team lose so many close games that ya hearts have been broken, but if you really love this team you know that what they are doing now is "GENUINE". No smoke and mirrors, the depth, the shooting the rebs the point guard are all there for you to see. Forgive and forget and your mindset will change. '

WELCOME "THE NEW LOOK KNICKS
I would buy into that theory as soon as the knicks hit .500! I will be the first perosn to start a thread that will read "the .500 dream" and say WELCOME TO THE NEW KNCKS SHOW! Until then, let me play is safe. I cannot afford to put a kiss of death. I have had my foot in my mouth before it doesn't taste good. (ex: YANKEES)
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
OasisBU
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12/31/2003  10:22 AM
I'll say it - I think the Knicks still suck. They have been playing better, against teams that lack overall talent. The Heat? T-Mac and the 4 guys that watch him on the court? The Grizz was a solid win I will give them that but they still arent at .500 and there are many changes to be made before this becomes a solid club. This is a nice little win streak that can extend for a few more games but lets see what happens against some elite teams like LA, San Antonio, Sacramento, Houston. Playa...just because the east is weak doesnt mean the Knicks are good.
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LJStillGrandmama
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12/31/2003  10:39 AM
Sign up for what? I believe most people said the Knicks will continue to suck as long as Layden was running the show... is he? No.... so now all prior statements are subject to change.

With that said, I still think this is an extremely flawed team, but at least we have some pride again. These past few games we have beaten the few teams we are actually SUPPOSED to beat, which is an accomplishment in itself, cuz this team didn't even do that in the 90's... but it's still only that... 3 wins against 2 teams... both under .500


Slow your roll, playa2
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playa2
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12/31/2003  11:08 AM
Posted by LJStillGrandmama:

Sign up for what? I believe most people said the Knicks will continue to suck as long as Layden was running the show... is he? No.... so now all prior statements are subject to change.

With that said, I still think this is an extremely flawed team, but at least we have some pride again. These past few games we have beaten the few teams we are actually SUPPOSED to beat, which is an accomplishment in itself, cuz this team didn't even do that in the 90's... but it's still only that... 3 wins against 2 teams... both under .500


Slow your roll, playa2

Uh you forgot Chaney in the equation. Maybe you thought this team couldn't play because Layden assembled it, but to your suprise they are running chaney's offense with Zeke's overseeing. You don't continue to blow out bad teams by 30 points unless your that good!
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
Silverfuel
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12/31/2003  11:29 AM
playa2: You were saying Chaney has to go for a few days urself. He isn't a good a coach. YOu were yelling about his sub patters and rotations too. Now Zeke forces him to play Fwill and Ward over Eisley and spoon doesnt get even one second.

Chaney was here all along man. Its Zeke that is making the difference. If Zeke had to force Chaney to play Ward and Frank over Eisley then it was his decision that is paying off. I still think Chaney is a bad coach. He refused to play frank significant minutes in games even after Frank exceled.
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HARDCOREKNICKSFAN
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12/31/2003  11:36 AM
LOL what did you think, Playa? Everyone on this board was supposed to shower you with props because we won four games against bad teams? Now everyone showed and proved how pitiful you are. EVERYONE who posted dissed you for the most part.

You are looking like film in the sun right now- Exposed and Ruined!

Postas are SMART enough to wait for real results. That is what INTELLIGENT fans are.

Real fans who use their brains will wait for the team to be AT LEAST .500 before they claim it to be respectable. Also, with LayDown gone, we are more hopeful and optimistic. In other words, no one CARES what you said before, because LayDown was the GM. You DEFENDED him, son. Who in their right mind will give you any props for THAT?

Next, you said the roster we started the season with was so solid, so magnificent, when it was AND IS still flawed. Any fan with a functional brain sees and knows this. Did you? NO.

Lastly, the majority of fans want Chaney outta here. Every posta on this board knows damn well that you DEFENDED him too. Just last week you were jumping off the Chaney wagon, now your fence-riding azz is jumping back on again. Hilarious.

Thanks for taking the time to open this thread, providing sensible postas with the perfect environment for shutting you down!

LMAO Happy New Year, Playa-self! Enjoy!
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
playa2
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12/31/2003  12:36 PM
Why do you continue to leave out that I am KNICKS FAN who can't change a damn thing management does, I am for the players and I will back whom ever is coaching. When and if Chaney leaves I will back whom ever takes his place. Obviously You don't know what a fan is! Happy new yr fool
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
TRU
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12/31/2003  12:44 PM
Posted by hDavis:

yeah they teams they blewout are all bad teams. we cant say they are good till they beat the kings and the timberwolves again.

See, I think that's it's just the opposite. Understand, that there were lots of times we beat good teams. We've beat a few this year as well. We beat the Lakers last year, and it didin't get us into the playoffs, did it?

The fact is, the good teams in this league are good because the beat the bad teams. When you're losing to teams like Orlando, a team like Indiana can come in and have a let down to you, because it's obvious you suck. That's how we can easily sneak a few wins on better teams. Meanwhile, when you're a good team, like Indiana, every 3rd string rookie is looking to show you up. Beating the bad teams becomes harder.

So the true test isn't beating good teams. It's winning important games. We're one game out of the playoffs today (behind Philly). Let's see how far we can get.
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gunsnewing
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12/31/2003  12:46 PM
I'm with Playa on this one, only I won't keep jum,ping on bandwagons. There's something about the way they are playing that I don't have to be convinced that they are a good team anymore. I've been watching the Knicks for a long time and they haven't looked this good since the 99 playoffs. I'm not gonna wait til we hit .500 or beat a good team because I'm confident we we will now, it's just a matter of time. I know I'm going out on the limb here but it's my gut feeling.
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12/31/2003  1:00 PM
This is how the team is supposed to play.

This team is built to make the playoffs. That was Laydens job.
jazz74
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12/31/2003  1:21 PM
i am with nalod. this is how the team was uspposed to play like with the roster they have now. they are supposed to lay the smackdown on orlando( without mcgrady), miami ( wade injured) and memphis. i am only happy that fwill FINALLY got some legit run like he deserves. lets hope they trade eisley and ward and keep moochie. this team is also supposed to have a 500 record. will that happen?
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