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1/1/2010 Nate Robinson comes out a 13 game dog house with 41pts off the bench in a huge win
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1/1/2010  10:24 PM
This is a game we will never forget...incredible!!!
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1/1/2010  10:29 PM
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Be careful Eny. http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=33478

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1/1/2010  10:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/1/2010  10:35 PM
Big game by Nate. Guy definitely gets you hyped during the game. That layup he made and he walked toward the baseline yelling got me hyped and cheesing from ear to ear.

With that said D'Antoni clearly doesn't like him and he didn't seem too smiley tonight while Nate was performing. I personally think a trade is coming.

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1/1/2010  10:48 PM
showcase him and trade him
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1/1/2010  10:49 PM
Silverfuel wrote:showcase him and trade him

nate straight up for stephen curry?

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1/1/2010  10:52 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Silverfuel wrote:showcase him and trade him

nate straight up for stephen curry?

In a heartbeat, but wasn't the drama in GS over Curry being too much of a scorer to pair with Ellis?
Plus, they seem to be high on the kid now.

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1/1/2010  10:59 PM
Silverfuel wrote:showcase him and trade him

exactly... there has to be a team willing to give us a nice asset in return for Nate... not many players that can do what he did tonight... MDA will never be able to reign in Nate, he's a ball of energy, hyperactive & attention deficit can't be far off from the truth w/him... he'll be a very effective player for a team & coach that can deal w/all that... MDA obviously can't, which is a shame.

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1/1/2010  11:01 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Silverfuel wrote:showcase him and trade him

nate straight up for stephen curry?

In a heartbeat, but wasn't the drama in GS over Curry being too much of a scorer to pair with Ellis?
Plus, they seem to be high on the kid now.

No way that we get Curry for Nate unless there is something seriously wrong with the GS management. Wish I was wrong, but...

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1/1/2010  11:05 PM
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No way that we get Curry for Nate unless there is something seriously wrong with the GS management. Wish I was wrong, but...

Well, that's a whole other issue...
But I agree.

I could however see Nate as a piece in a TMac trade.

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1/1/2010  11:05 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
MaTT4281 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Silverfuel wrote:showcase him and trade him

nate straight up for stephen curry?

In a heartbeat, but wasn't the drama in GS over Curry being too much of a scorer to pair with Ellis?
Plus, they seem to be high on the kid now.

No way that we get Curry for Nate unless there is something seriously wrong with the GS management. Wish I was wrong, but...

i think u may have opened the door for that trade with your own statement there bro.

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1/1/2010  11:07 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
No way that we get Curry for Nate unless there is something seriously wrong with the GS management. Wish I was wrong, but...

Well, that's a whole other issue...
But I agree.

I could however see Nate as a piece in a TMac trade.

if Nate keeps playing well by the trade deadline, the only way i include Nate in a T-Mac trade is if i can dump Fishlips or Curry's deal in the process... otherwise i'd try to land us a future pick & any expiring i can get my hands on... we can't lose an asset like Nate for a half year rental of a player we don't even know will be healthy for the rest of the season.

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1/1/2010  11:35 PM
Nate was hurt for a good part of this season--he was playing well before benching--tonight the guy was the freshest player in the nBA--what A performance--this is not the first time he had a sick game like this--while he wont do it every night--it just shows you just how talented he is --so he yaps a bit--why cant players have fun with what they are doing?

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1/1/2010  11:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/1/2010  11:45 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Nate was hurt for a good part of this season--he was playing well before benching

Exactly. Robinson missed just about 50% of the games in November. Saying that he was the reason the Knicks were losing in November has no basis in reality. The Knicks win more and were more competitive in November when Robinson played big minutes...FACTS NOT FICTION!! http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3947

Nate Robinson's benching was personal, not basketball related. Face it people!

BRIGGS wrote:tonight the guy was the freshest player in the nBA--what A performance--this is not the first time he had a sick game like this--while he wont do it every night--it just shows you just how talented he is --so he yaps a bit--why cant players have fun with what they are doing?

Because people like to make sanctimonious nonsense arguments that fly in the face of reality.

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1/2/2010  12:11 AM
I was really happy for Nate and I hope it works out here for him.
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1/2/2010  12:30 AM
oohah wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Nate was hurt for a good part of this season--he was playing well before benching

Exactly. Robinson missed just about 50% of the games in November. Saying that he was the reason the Knicks were losing in November has no basis in reality. The Knicks win more and were more competitive in November when Robinson played big minutes...FACTS NOT FICTION!! http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3947

Nate Robinson's benching was personal, not basketball related. Face it people!

BRIGGS wrote:tonight the guy was the freshest player in the nBA--what A performance--this is not the first time he had a sick game like this--while he wont do it every night--it just shows you just how talented he is --so he yaps a bit--why cant players have fun with what they are doing?

Because people like to make sanctimonious nonsense arguments that fly in the face of reality.

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You really don't get it. Nate was not getting the point of what MDA is trying to do with this team. MDA wants accountable, professional, team oriented players that are willing to play on both ends. Nate was not doing that. He can score, but that's not everything. He was also out of control and not playing team ball. He wasn't defending either. The deal is that a coach has every right to do whatever it takes to set the right tone for his team and teach them how to win as a team. Anyone that wants to try and argue that MDA hasn't been doing this go ahead and show the proof. Everything he's been doing is bearing results. The team is playing at a much more consistently good level.

Now maybe Nate will be able to do what MDA is asking or maybe not, but MDA had every right to make the coaching decision he did. It's never been about talent with Nate. All that we need is for him to control the energy and passion he plays with. It's a fine line, but he has to do it.

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1/2/2010  12:41 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/2/2010  12:45 AM
nixluva wrote:You really don't get it. Nate was not getting the point of what MDA is trying to do with this team. MDA wants accountable, professional, team oriented players that are willing to play on both ends. Nate was not doing that. He can score, but that's not everything. He was also out of control and not playing team ball. He wasn't defending either. The deal is that a coach has every right to do whatever it takes to set the right tone for his team and teach them how to win as a team. Anyone that wants to try and argue that MDA hasn't been doing this go ahead and show the proof. Everything he's been doing is bearing results. The team is playing at a much more consistently good level.

I really do get it. You always have the same spin.

Robinson was not the problem, Duhon was THE PROBLEM, both offensively and defensively. If you are telling me that Duhon was playing defense or offense on anything but the lowest level possible in November, if you say that Duhon was not the main reason the Knicks were horrible, then you know you're not telling the truth. The TEAM PLAYED BETTER in November with Robinson playing than they did when he was injured.

And give it a rest with this "control" stuff. Robinson was getting a good amount of assists and a few steals as well in November, not just scoring. He was doing what he does. The same thing he did last year when he dropped big games to will the team to a win, just like he did tonight. None of your adjectives that try to paint the facts with untruths can change that.

Again I really do get it: If Mike D'Antoni tells the team to play with their shorts around their ankles you will post on and on about his motivational genius.

See? I get it.

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1/2/2010  1:08 AM
the Hawks missed a ton of big shots down the stretch that could have won the game for them... if the Knicks lose this game, we'd be hearing people ragging on Nate for not playing within the team concept & not contributing to help them win ballgames... we'd be seeing threads like "Sure he can put up #'s but the team doesn't win" or "MDA was right in benching Nate" popping up instead.

Nate did nothing different tonight than what he's done since he's been here... he was a sparkplug off the bench & he provided instant offense... he's taken over games like this before... he was playing 1 on 5 down the stretch... this wasn't the way MDA wants him to play, so y'all need to stop saying it was... MDA's system is predicated on sharing the ball, not on 1 on 5 play... benching Nate did nothing but prevent us from having Nate at our disposal in those games he missed.

yeah, Nate said it was a humbling experience... he's saying all the right things, he's not gonna disparage the head coach & make another issue out of this now that he's finally gotten back in the rotation... the attention whoring preening & posing, the yucking it up with opponents before games, & the bad mistakes in crucial moments is not going away anytime soon so u guys shouldn't start thinking he's learned something from this whole experience... MDA & Nate are never going to be on the same page & Nate's not going to dominate like he did tonight on a daily basis... this is what he brings you & what he's brought us since he's been here.

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1/2/2010  1:15 AM
Perhaps the Knicks arent so willing to trade Nate, as ive said all along, Nd did this for his own good. I feel this and felt that. D`Antoni played this perfectly. I supported this move from the start and Nate, more importantly, handled it well. Now he has to keep it up.
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1/2/2010  1:26 AM
TMS wrote:the Hawks missed a ton of big shots down the stretch that could have won the game for them... if the Knicks lose this game, we'd be hearing people ragging on Nate for not playing within the team concept & not contributing to help them win ballgames... we'd be seeing threads like "Sure he can put up #'s but the team doesn't win" or "MDA was right in benching Nate" popping up instead.

Nate did nothing different tonight than what he's done since he's been here... he was a sparkplug off the bench & he provided instant offense... he's taken over games like this before... he was playing 1 on 5 down the stretch... this wasn't the way MDA wants him to play, so y'all need to stop saying it was... MDA's system is predicated on sharing the ball, not on 1 on 5 play... benching Nate did nothing but prevent us from having Nate at our disposal in those games he missed.

yeah, Nate said it was a humbling experience... he's saying all the right things, he's not gonna disparage the head coach & make another issue out of this now that he's finally gotten back in the rotation... the attention whoring preening & posing, the yucking it up with opponents before games, & the bad mistakes in crucial moments is not going away anytime soon so u guys shouldn't start thinking he's learned something from this whole experience... MDA & Nate are never going to be on the same page & Nate's not going to dominate like he did tonight on a daily basis... this is what he brings you & what he's brought us since he's been here.

Also, when Nate Robinson was thanking D'Antoni, it sounded as insincere as you can imagine. He also thanked his agent. People should really listen to the whole speech and then comment on how humbled he is.

To me Robinson sounded more like: "See? Ain't nobody gonna break my stride!"

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1/1/2010 Nate Robinson comes out a 13 game dog house with 41pts off the bench in a huge win

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